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 Posted:   Jul 2, 2008 - 10:15 AM   
 By:   neotrinity   (Member)

One of the many marvelous attributes that distinguished Jerry Goldsmith's



robust repertoire is what we’d ascribe to (in art historical terms) his unabashedly Baroque sensibility: that is, to quote, “a visceral appeal aimed at the senses" and, we’d also add, a dramatic grandeur whose hallmark is its inherent heroic theatricality.

Listening to his gloriously galvanizing, thrilling 'The Game' from



adds further foundation to that dynamic description ...

wink

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2008 - 10:20 AM   
 By:   the_end   (Member)

yes, it's my favorite track from that score. awesome stuff!!

btw, did you get the expanded version from intrada? way better than the one you pictured.

 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2008 - 10:31 AM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

An amazing cue, sad they butchered it on the final cut.

 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2008 - 10:34 AM   
 By:   Sarge   (Member)

I remember running my old audio cassette of that score into the ground, especially that track.

And the sequence itself is a fine little piece of editing. The intercutting between the game and the approaching helicopters is very good, but Jerry's music took it to a completely different level.

Don't get me started on the track "Night Fight" ...genius.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2008 - 10:56 AM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

I remember running my old audio cassette of that score into the ground, especially that track.

And the sequence itself is a fine little piece of editing. The intercutting between the game and the approaching helicopters is very good, but Jerry's music took it to a completely different level.

Don't get me started on the track "Night Fight" ...genius.


Hell YES , "Night Fight" is breathtaking - the entire score is a marvel. Of course, some will argue ( laughably so) that Goldsmith ruined the score with electronics he had no idea how to use, which is just a stupid statement.

 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2008 - 12:14 PM   
 By:   David Sones (Allardyce)   (Member)

"Final Battle" is the piece of this score that moves me most. Love it, love it, love it, but I feel that way about the whole score. But "Final Battle" is one of those themes that I hum to myself frequently whenever walking somewhere.

Question - I have the Intrada complete score from the early '90s, and I just noticed at Amazon that there is a version released in 2005 with a different cover, also by Intrada. Is that just a repressing of the same album, or is it different in any way? Please advise. Thanks.

 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2008 - 12:24 PM   
 By:   Jeff Bond   (Member)

Love all those pieces--"Night Fight" really gets into Planet of the Apes territory with that final, pulsing Stravinsky section. I also love "The Boot"--written for a hand-to-hand struggle, it sounds like music written for two Star Destroyers smashing together...

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2008 - 1:49 PM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

Love all those pieces--"Night Fight" really gets into Planet of the Apes territory with that final, pulsing Stravinsky section. I also love "The Boot"--written for a hand-to-hand struggle, it sounds like music written for two Star Destroyers smashing together...

Nice comments yeah...all of those tracks and more...I love The Cave ( think that's the title?), with the synth water dripping effects, bursts of violence, wow what a great atmospheric cue. It's a grand score, just epic action.

The latest Intrada CD I believe is a remaster, I have both and the 05 pressing sounds better, clear, crisp, louder.

 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2008 - 4:36 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

Effing great track dude.
It goes on 99% of my Goldsmith mixes.

 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2008 - 4:52 PM   
 By:   Agent Norman Newman   (Member)

"Final Battle" is the piece of this score that moves me most. Love it, love it, love it, but I feel that way about the whole score. But "Final Battle" is one of those themes that I hum to myself frequently whenever walking somewhere.

Question - I have the Intrada complete score from the early '90s, and I just noticed at Amazon that there is a version released in 2005 with a different cover, also by Intrada. Is that just a repressing of the same album, or is it different in any way? Please advise. Thanks.



nope its remastered

 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2008 - 6:04 PM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

I also ran into the ground my own cassette copy of the original album release from Scotti Bros back in '88. I did not have much Goldsmith at that time, since Williams and Horner kinda dominated my film music landscape, but this was the year where he came charging to the forefront due to RAMBO. It was the only RAMBO score I owned until a friend made a cassette copy of the LP of RAMBO II, but I always loved the tracks "Another Time", "The Game" and "Final Battle" and I can't even take a guess at how many times I have heard them. The expanded CD from Intrada, and subsequent remastered edition, was a revelation, a welcome treat that I never fail to appreciate!

 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2008 - 12:10 AM   
 By:   Jehannum   (Member)

Among Goldsmith's very best. It's one of the scores I used to love listening to while travelling through the Scottish Highlands, a fine combination of visual and aural beauty.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 5, 2008 - 10:34 AM   
 By:   neotrinity   (Member)

If The Academy really wanted to make serious amends for its odious omissions (accidentally-On-Purpose?) over the years, they oughta bestow Honorary



for Outstanding Elevating Contribution to Expanding a Genre. If so, along with an woefully overdue one to



for 007, others would have to go to Mr. Goldsmith for his vibrant versatility on this titanic trilogy of unforgettable music.





Indeed - and In Deed, also ... wink

 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2014 - 6:44 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

I think that Rambo III is my favorite of the trilogy, though the movie would still be the least of the three even if they hadn't butchered Jerry's score.

So many great musical moments...the most-mournful-version of the Rambo theme, the lovely "Questions" theme, the aforementioned "The Game"; the electronic, exotic marketplace sound of "Peshawar", and the "Afghanistan" cue that also scores Rambo's friendship with the kid (IIRC). I live for those sad, reflective moments in each of Jerry's Rambo scores.

However the kicker for me is the suite of all these magnificent themes in the glorious "I'll Stay" finale which has (for me) the single greatest Rambo musical moment of them all: beginning around the 8:07 mark, when the action cue with the prickly electronic effects morphs into the Rambo theme in the most effortless and brilliant way possible. I get chills every time I hear it. Every damn time.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2014 - 8:14 AM   
 By:   JohnF   (Member)

Must listen to this again. Thanks for bumping. Bought the cassette, the original intrada and now because of this thread just ordered the remastered. Can't wait to hear this score all over again!

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2014 - 9:10 AM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

Somewhere between the Scotti Bros highlights album (25 mins?) and the Intrada expansion (way too long) there is a fine 40-50 minute programme to be had, I'm sure.
Even then, it would still be 3rd in my fave Rambo scores list, as the original First Blood score could never be bettered in my mind and the tin-foil coated Rambo 2 is almost as immense, in differing ways to First Blood.
3 does offer some nice new themes and great renditions of the First Blood theme, but it always lags back in 3rd place for me.

 
 Posted:   Feb 25, 2014 - 4:29 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Somewhere between the Scotti Bros highlights album (25 mins?) and the Intrada expansion (way too long) there is a fine 40-50 minute programme to be had, I'm sure.

Not to make you out to be like Emperor Joseph II wink, but which notes, or rather cues, would you omit from Rambo III? I know that "Preparations" might not be to everyone's taste but the rest of the score is absolutely frigging GLORIOUS.

 
 Posted:   Feb 25, 2014 - 4:36 AM   
 By:   WillGoldNewtonBarryGrusin   (Member)

The first movie is my favorite - and the first score, too.

The second and third movies I do not care about - but the scores are fantastic as well.

I welcomed Intrada´s expansion and would not want any track deleted.

Together, these three scores form a tremendous unity, a trinity of action scores that IMO never has been surpassed.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 25, 2014 - 4:42 AM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)



Together, these three scores form a tremendous unity, a trinity of action scores that IMO never has been surpassed.



Absolutely agree. All three scores are breathtaking and brilliant.

Rambo III is just as exciting as the others, maybe a bit more...brutal. Although for me the album is fine as is, being as it follows the film order it does begin a bit low key. So if you can't get into the score as is, maybe try reprogramming the tracks into a more varied listen would help?

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 25, 2014 - 4:46 AM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

Well, it's been a long, long time since I last played it, but I remember being bored by two cues that have been mentioned above (the dripping cave track and the ponderous boot cue), so they would be the first to go!

 
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