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Bumping this thread, as I got this CD in the mail today.
I agree with Morlock's sentiments but not so much his words about the composer. JNH doesn't thrill me as much as he use to and looking back on some scores I enjoyed (The Postman, Wyatt Earp) I find them a little thin these days compared to The Fugative or, yes, Defiance.
This is a beautifually moody score. I don't think anyone can whistle this in the way you can a Williams or a Goldsmith or a Barry - but its an honest, heartfelt organic score. Very tender, moving stuff. I'm pretty impressed by it and hope JNH continues to surprise me like he did here.
Have you happened to check out Desplat's Benjamin Button LeHah? I can also recommend Largo Winch too. Phenomenal stuff.
As for Howard, I still love his Wyatt Earp and Unbreakable scores. Very solid stuff.
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Hmm... there really was nothing that wrong with it, it was a solid score, but I still found myself dissapointed.
I guess I was hoping for something more like Blood Diamond- where the chords were simple and Zimmer-esk, but the insturmentation and orchestration was such that it made for a new listening expeerience and something I enjoyed. Instead, Defiance has simple Zimmer-esk chords using insturmentation that has been overused (even by JNH, thinking the Village).
Also, one of the more disappointing aspects of it was the lack of piano... if there's one thing I've always been sure of when purchasing a JNH soundtrack is that there will always be a gorgeous piano solo with strings and/or brass behind it- as in Lady in the Water, King Kong, Blood Diamond, Signs... pretty much everything. I'm not sure, but is this the first score he's composed that doesn't have piano? Maybe Dinosaur... I don't remember.
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I liked this film. Using the dynamics of brotherly love and rivalry up against an external force of evil (the nazis) and internal community pressures (the forest tribe) as well. It's really a smorgasboard of character relations and plot directions right there. Strong performances by both Craig and Schreiber, but especially Craig. They showcased the moral ambiguities of their roles that we as audience also have to come to terms with (some of the acts they perform are despicable, but we're forced to confront them in context and question basic human psychology). It never really crossed my mind that Craig didn't look "Jewish" enough.
Some fine outdoors photography too, both in winter and spring scenes.
JNH's score was quite restrained for the most part, but the lush SCHINDLER'S LIST vibe shone through here and there. I liked it.
How does one "LOOK JEWISH"?
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How does one "LOOK JEWISH"?
Beats me. It was a reference to a point made by John Archibald earlier in the thread:
"Although, Daniel Craig would never be my first choice for realistic casting as a Polish Jew in the resistance. With his steely blue eyes and light hair, he looks Aryan enough to be a Nazi. Likewise Jamie Bell, playing his kid brother."
Personally, I didn't react to that at all.
Sorry.... knee jerk reaction to a stupid statement.
You shouldn't dig up OLD threads. Start a new one. I'd rather make a fool of myself afresh.
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Nov 5, 2009 - 6:15 AM
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I liked this film.
Really, Thor? I found it a forest of cliches--contrived, artificial, unconvincing. I never had the feeling anybody was what he was pretending to be, most especially Craig. I seemed to know everything that was going to happen well before it did, including Craig turning away (in the best tradition of John Wayne before he punched somebody) before suddenly turning back to shoot a dissentor. The film seemed to have no voice of its own, badly mimicking a host of better films, mostly notably Private Ryan in all the action scenes (and can someone tell me why the bullets seemed to hit everything but people?). I was bitterly disappointed, as this film promised so much and delivered so little. I had the feeling I was watching a telemovie most of the time.
Hmmm...well, interesting observations. One man's gold is another man's trash etc. I actually thought the story was very unpredictable and I was constantly surprised. One moment, I thought it would be a genocide ending (whether it was the plane attack or the swamp or whatever); this incredible vulnerable group of people being chased around, but then someone found a way. And of course, not without a prize. Lots of people die here, on both sides of the fence.
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Nov 5, 2009 - 4:39 PM
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I liked this film.
Really, Thor? I found it a forest of cliches--contrived, artificial, unconvincing. I never had the feeling anybody was what he was pretending to be, most especially Craig. I seemed to know everything that was going to happen well before it did, including Craig turning away (in the best tradition of John Wayne before he punched somebody) before suddenly turning back to shoot a dissentor. The film seemed to have no voice of its own, badly mimicking a host of better films, mostly notably Private Ryan in all the action scenes (and can someone tell me why the bullets seemed to hit everything but people?). I was bitterly disappointed, as this film promised so much and delivered so little. I had the feeling I was watching a telemovie most of the time.
Hmmm...well, interesting observations. One man's gold is another man's trash etc. I actually thought the story was very unpredictable and I was constantly surprised. One moment, I thought it would be a genocide ending (whether it was the plane attack or the swamp or whatever); this incredible vulnerable group of people being chased around, but then someone found a way. And of course, not without a prize. Lots of people die here, on both sides of the fence.
Absolutely true about trash and treasure, and maybe I'm getting a bit grumpy in my old age, but I did expect a lot more. Or maybe I have some psychic gift that tells me what's going to happen before it does, but even that wouldn't be so bad if it happened in a more original way. As for people dying, they do, but seemingly not from being struck by bullets, which have a habit of striking foliage but not flesh. Maybe they die of suspense about what's going to happen next. 
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