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Wonder if it'll bear any similarities to his score for "The Phantom."
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if The Phantom was any more lame it would be in a wheelchair.
The Phantom is, by a wide margin, probably the best superhero movie ever made because the screen writer and director understood the silly pulp material its based from. If you like that or not is not the question - the question is how accurate is it to the character. (Answer: Completely - and in a form and fashion that no other superhero movie has done before or since.)
In a world where Hollywood is making serious (Spider-Man 2), dour (Watchmen), stupid (Wanted, V For Vendetta) and nihilistic (The Dark Knight) fare from comic books - The Phantom is the odd-man out because it relishes in its origins, instead of globbing onto whatever trite sensibilities is popular today.
Trite is not the right word to use at all. At least to describe V for Vendetta. Unless you mean movies shouldn't reflect real life in any way shape or form. V for Vendetta had pedophile priests, bombings, terrorism, torture, and questioned whether a terrorist was a freedom fighter. All pertinent topics considering the state of world affairs today, and I think TDK was a reflection of that as well.
Also, just a general opinion, making a transition from comic book to movie with a faithful character at the expense of a good story is a one way ticket to a box office bomb.
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Nov 20, 2008 - 6:24 AM
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The Phantom is, by a wide margin, probably the best superhero movie ever made because the screen writer and director understood the silly pulp material its based from. If you like that or not is not the question - the question is how accurate is it to the character. (Answer: Completely - and in a form and fashion that no other superhero movie has done before or since.)
In a world where Hollywood is making serious (Spider-Man 2), dour (Watchmen), stupid (Wanted, V For Vendetta) and nihilistic (The Dark Knight) fare from comic books - The Phantom is the odd-man out because it relishes in its origins, instead of globbing onto whatever trite sensibilities is popular today.What in the world are you talking about? Because it retains a "silly pulp sensibility" it's the best superhero movie ever made? It's actual quality doesn't matter, it just automatically wins because it retains a flavor that you associate with early superhero comics? It's the best superhero movie because it revels in an old silliness instead of attempting to be topical or, y'know, actually a good movie?
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Nov 20, 2008 - 6:42 AM
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I don't disagree with you about those particular movies. V for Vendetta, despite some awesome (in a sensational, not a substantial, sense) scenes, was bad. Wanted is by far the worst (theatrical) movie I've seen in a very long time. 300 was crap and I don't have much hope for Watchmen, and I think Nolan is one of the most overrated directors in the business, though I did enjoy some bits of The Dark Knight (mostly the bits with Heath Ledger on screen but not speechifying). But a bunch of bad dark movies doesn't automatically make a bad light movie good. It stands out, certainly, but best superhero movie? Is The Phantom really better than the beautiful pulp grunge noir The Crow? Better than the also campy but also extremely entertaining Superman: The Movie? Better than (and I don't like all of these but I'll throw them out anyway) The Specials, Mystery Men, The Incredibles, Sidekick?
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Nov 20, 2008 - 11:56 AM
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Hurdy Gurdy
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"The Phantom is, by a wide margin, probably the best superhero movie ever made because the screen writer and director understood the silly pulp material its based from. If you like that or not is not the question - the question is how accurate is it to the character. (Answer: Completely - and in a form and fashion that no other superhero movie has done before or since.)"
"In a world where Hollywood is making serious (Spider-Man 2), dour (Watchmen), stupid (Wanted, V For Vendetta) and nihilistic (The Dark Knight) fare from comic books - The Phantom is the odd-man out because it relishes in its origins, instead of globbing onto whatever trite sensibilities is popular today."
Based on that thinking, what about the recent Fantastic Four films? They were bright, breezy, faithful and fun, never took themselves seriously and avoided all the brooding/grimness associated with those other films mentioned.
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