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 Posted:   Nov 28, 2001 - 4:23 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

It's not a name that pops up much in discussion but it's a name you see all over film. I've just seen The (Fighting) Sullivans for the first time ever and was rather taken in by the generous amount of scoring throughout the picture. This was the true story/film that served as the basis for Saving Private Ryan. Anyway, much of the scoring involved adapting well-known Irish folk tunes and Mr. Mockridge did just that while seamlessly weaving in original music as well. Let's face it--the flick was made in 1944, it's one of those innocent bygone era things, it's dated, it's hokey (I suppose)--but a lot of heart went into it and its music. The latter fact alone is worthy of a viewing/listen.

Mr. Mockridge also did scoring duties for the classic western The Ox-Bow Incident. If memory serves, he adapted Red River Valley or some other folk tune into the score, but what has always stood out in the mind's ear is a wordless choral passage created to underscore the black preacher Sparks. Once you see the look of the film, Sparks and latch onto the story you never lose that sound. Haunting thing.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 28, 2001 - 7:12 PM   
 By:   Preston Neal Jones   (Member)

Haven't seen OX-BOW in ages, but of course it's a timeless classic and I'll look forward to paying attention to Mockridge's contribution next time I catch it.

In the meantime, definitely NOT a classic, timeless or otherwise, but the inspiration for and beneficiary of a superb Mockridge score is THE LUCK OF THE IRISH. (Also superb Oscar-nominated turn as a leprechaun by Cecil Kellaway.)

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 28, 2001 - 7:22 PM   
 By:   Originalthinkr@aol.com   (Member)

Check out his score for the dark, sinister NIGHTMARE ALLEY some time.

 
 Posted:   Nov 29, 2001 - 2:11 AM   
 By:   Valere   (Member)

I am so glad that someone asked about Cyril. His name has been long forgotten,and yet,has written som very stirring music......

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 29, 2001 - 5:38 AM   
 By:   Originalthinkr@aol.com   (Member)

Mockridge was to the Fox scoring staff what Adolph Deutsch was to Warners, a reasonably talented composer in whom the music director (Newman and Leo Forbstein, respectively) had a great deal of faith, though they were seldom given the big "A" assignments.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 29, 2001 - 12:34 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

But he worked on a lot of Newman's "A" assignments, didn't he?

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 29, 2001 - 2:35 PM   
 By:   percepto   (Member)

Taylor White at Percepto Records here. It's nice to see Mockridge's name get some recognition as he's certainly a worthy and underrated composer. Next year we're releasing a deluxe CD with two of Mockridge's best efforts -- MIRACLE ON 34TH STREET and COME TO THE STABLE. The original Fox masters on both are in pristine shape. Plus, the scores were conducted by Alfred and Lionel Newman. Hopefully there's enough listeners out there who can put Horner and Zimmer aside long enough to sample some really great quality Golden Age material!

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 29, 2001 - 3:36 PM   
 By:   Originalthinkr@aol.com   (Member)

Dear Taylor:

Would you be kind enough to post Percepto Records' website address and updates as the release date apporaches? This is a CD I'd really like to own.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 29, 2001 - 10:13 PM   
 By:   estgrey   (Member)

Well, I guess it's about that time of year for me to dig out that old Sundance Institute Film Music Series CD with the suite from Miracle on 34th Street.

I too would be interested in more information on when the fuller CD of the score will be released and how one might obtain it.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 30, 2001 - 12:58 AM   
 By:   joec   (Member)

Taylor White at Percepto Records here. It's nice to see Mockridge's name get some recognition as he's certainly a worthy and underrated composer. Next year we're releasing a deluxe CD with two of Mockridge's best efforts -- MIRACLE ON 34TH STREET and COME TO THE STABLE. The original Fox masters on both are in pristine shape. Plus, the scores were conducted by Alfred and Lionel Newman. Hopefully there's enough listeners out there who can put Horner and Zimmer aside long enough to sample some really great quality Golden Age material!

WONDERFUL NEWS!! Percepto releases are well put together, I have a few. Certainly something to look forward to. Seems like other groups are now dipping into FSM's Fox territory. With Intrata's upcoming BARBARIAN & GEISHA and now Percepto. Also FSM has issued a few Warner titles in the past and the new HENRY ORIENT cd belongs to MGM/UA. Things are cetainly looking up for classic film score collectors. How about a complete CAPTAIN FROM CASTILE by Newman?

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 30, 2001 - 2:06 AM   
 By:   Chris Kinsinger   (Member)

My sadly ignorant confession is that the one and only Mockridge score I'm familiar with is the classic Miracle On 34th Street, which I have on that wonderful Sundance CD.
Thank you Howard, for once more taking us back into the vaults of yesteryear, where so many buried treasures dwell.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 30, 2001 - 2:18 AM   
 By:   estgrey   (Member)

joec> I don't know if it is truly complete, but there is a 2 CD recording, advertised as "the complete original soundtrack," of "Captain from Castile" (also with the soundtrack for "The Snake Pit") on Tsunami. I think I bought this in the last year or so.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 30, 2001 - 2:39 AM   
 By:   joec   (Member)

joec> I don't know if it is truly complete, but there is a 2 CD recording, advertised as "the complete original soundtrack," of "Captain from Castile" (also with the soundtrack for "The Snake Pit") on Tsunami. I think I bought this in the last year or so.

Tsunami is a bootleg label, I do not purchase bootlrgs.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 30, 2001 - 11:10 AM   
 By:   Originalthinkr@aol.com   (Member)

As Gracchus, the wily old Roman senator in SPARTACUS, says to the young Julius Caesar (re the Silician pirates): "If a criminal has something you want, you do business with him."

That's the way the world has always worked.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 30, 2001 - 11:49 AM   
 By:   estgrey   (Member)

Tsunami is a bootleg label? I had no idea (I saw it in a catalogue of a dealer and bought it. How am I supposed to know?) . . . still, if that is the only way I can get the score, I see no problem with it. If a "legitimate" label would provide the soundtrack, then I would buy that. If not, I'll buy the bootleg. If it does eventually come out in a more "legitimate" way later, I'll probably buy that too, even if it is the same. This is a compromise I am, somewhat reluctantly, willing to make as part of the price of pursuing a niche market that is generally ignored by the bigger labels. (And I am not buying the argument that the bigger labels would issue all of this wonderful stuff if not for the bootlegs.)

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 23, 2018 - 6:40 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

I've just seen The (Fighting) Sullivans for the first time ever and was rather taken in by the generous amount of scoring throughout the picture. This was the true story/film that served as the basis for Saving Private Ryan.

from today's (print) NY Times--

Wreck of the Juneau Is Found, 76 Years After 5 Brothers Perished
By JACEY FORTIN


At the Battle of Guadalcanal during World War II, hundreds of sailors — including five from the same family — lost their lives while serving on the same ship for the United States Navy.

The ship, the cruiser Juneau, was blasted apart by a Japanese torpedo on Nov. 13, 1942. For decades it was lost, resting in pieces somewhere in the South Pacific.

It was found on Saturday when a team aboard the Petrel, a research vessel funded by the Microsoft co-founder and philanthropist Paul G. Allen, identified the wreckage about 2.6 miles underwater off the coast of the Solomon Islands.

Among the hundreds aboard the Juneau when it sank were five brothers from Waterloo, Iowa. Because they were all serving together, the sons of Thomas and Alleta Sullivan were well known even before they deployed.

News outlets interviewed them. They had their picture taken on the Juneau when it was commissioned on Feb. 14, 1942. They met the champion boxer Jack Dempsey at his restaurant in New York City.

During the Battle of Guadalcanal, a series of clashes between Allied and Japanese forces on and around the island of Guadalcanal from 1942 to 1943, thousands of men lost their lives and dozens of ships were destroyed. The American troops eventually pushed Japanese forces from Guadalcanal, marking a turning point for the Allies in the Pacific.

But the Sullivan brothers did not see the outcome of those battles, and they never returned to Waterloo.

For Kelly Sullivan, the granddaughter of Albert, the youngest of the Sullivan brothers, the discovery of the Juneau was bittersweet. She was excited by the news, she said, and grateful to Mr. Allen and the researchers on his team.

But at the same time, she added, “it kind of opens up a scab. You feel that loss. I don’t have the big Irish Catholic family that I would have had if even one of the boys had survived.”

The Juneau was spotted in an area so littered with warships and debris that it is sometimes referred to as Iron Bottom Sound. “It suffered massive damage on the surface and was broken into pieces probably before it sank completely, so the wreckage was scattered over a mile,” said David Reams, the senior director for Mr. Allen’s maritime operations.

To find the ship, researchers pored over navigation records and battle reports to pinpoint where it might be. Then they sent an autonomous underwater device to scan the area using sonar, followed by a remotely operated vehicle with video cameras attached.

Watching that live footage, researchers in the South Pacific aboard the Petrel, a 250-foot exploration vessel, were able to discern the stern of a sunken ship, blooming with translucent anemones.

They remotely maneuvered the underwater vehicle until the letters emblazoned on the stern began to come clear. “That’s going to be the J, there’s the U, N, E, here’s the A — that’s it. That is the Juneau,” said Robert Kraft, the director of underwater operations for Mr. Allen, from his perch on the Petrel last week.

The cruiser joins a list of other sunken ships that have been found by Mr. Allen’s team recently, including the aircraft carrier Lexington this month, the destroyer Ward late last year and the cruiser Indianapolis in August.

The Sullivan brothers were on the Juneau together because the oldest, George, had sent a letter to the Navy shortly after the Dec. 7, 1941, attack on Pearl Harbor asking that they be allowed to serve on the same ship. “I talked them into going into the U.S. Navy for the U.S.A.,” the letter said. “As a bunch, there is no-body that can beat us. There is nothing that can back us up.”

After the Juneau was blown apart almost a year later, Alleta Sullivan sent her own letter to the Bureau of Naval Personnel asking about a “rumor” she had heard. “A mother from here came and told me she got a letter from her son and he heard my five sons were killed,” she wrote. “It is all over town now, and I am so worried.”

The rumor was true. George, Francis, Joseph, Madison and Albert were gone.

In response, President Franklin D. Roosevelt wrote in a personal letter to Ms. Sullivan in January 1943: “I realize full well there is little I can say to assuage your grief. As the Commander-in-Chief of the Army and Navy, I want you to know that the entire nation shares in your sorrow.”

Now that the Juneau has been found, it will stay where it is. Its exact location was revealed to the Navy but not to the public. “These are war graves, and we want to make sure that they are not harmed,” Mr. Reams said.

A movie was made about the Sullivan brothers in 1944, and the Navy named two destroyers after them. Kelly Sullivan christened one. She said the five brothers “are a symbol of all the people who have sacrificed during wartime,” adding that hers was just one of hundreds of families left grieving when the Juneau was torpedoed.

“I think maybe the sadness is really about feeling the sacrifices,” she said. “When you see the wreckage, you can feel the sacrifice that so many families made on that day.”


 
 
 Posted:   Mar 24, 2018 - 1:01 AM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

Four months after the sinking of the Juneau, in March 1943, it was announced that producer Sam Jaffe and director Lloyd Bacon intended to make a film, with the cooperation of the Navy and the Sullivan family. It was further indicated that the Sullivans would "share in the proceeds of the picture." Mr. and Mrs. Sullivan, their daughter Genevieve and daughter-in-law Katherine Mary, who was Al Sullivan's widow, were all present during parts of the filming and acted as technical advisors. Jaffe also secured the services of Chaplain William Muenster to supervise the wedding sequence. In real life, Muenster had officiated at the marriage of Al and Katherine Mary.

Due to the shortage of available actors during the war, producers Jaffe and Robert T. Kane conducted an extensive search for the film's leads. Due to wartime budgetary restrictions, the producers limited the initial screen tests to fifty feet in order to conserve film, and grouped the actors in fives. Jaffe also announced that he was "combing the ranks of discharged servicemen to play the adult characters, feeling that their military experience [would] give reality to the yarn."

The production was largely filmed on location in Santa Rosa, CA. Because of labor and food shortages, by agreement with the Chamber of Commerce, the studio would not employ Santa Rosa residents as extras on the film unless they "carried cards from the Chamber testifying that they had volunteered to help in the harvesting of Santa Rosa's seasonal crops." The production company also had to agree to give at least three days notice for large purchases of food.

The producers canceled a location shooting trip to the San Diego naval base when they decided to limit the war scene footage to the sinking of the Juneau, and not include any other scenes of the brothers in uniform. The filming of the ship's sinking was shot on the first anniversary of the actual event.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 24, 2018 - 1:19 AM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

Mr. and Mrs. Sullivan attended the film's opening in New York on 9 February 1944 and sold war bonds in the lobby. The Hollywood premiere, which benefited the Naval Aid Auxiliary, was attended byJuneau officer Lt. Cmdr. Roger O'Neill, one of only 10 survivors of the sinking. According to reports, O'Neill offered a "splendid tribute" to his lost shipmates. Following the tragedy, the Navy officially declared that family members could not serve on the same vessel during wartime.

According to a 4 April 1944 Hollywood Reporter news item, after the picture failed to attract large audiences, Twentieth Century-Fox executives changed its title to THE FIGHTING SULLIVANS, a title that it retained for a 1951 re-release.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 24, 2018 - 1:53 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

As always, Bob, you have placed things in biographical and celluloid perspective. Thank you.

 
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