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LOG IN Forgot Login? Register General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board Search Terms:  Search Within:  topics 2009 posts 2008 posts 2007 posts 2006 posts 2005 posts 2004 posts 2003 posts 2002 posts 2001 posts 2000 posts users  search tips  You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2 3 4      General Discussion: FSM Blog Post: Star Trek Music Podcast     1 2 3    NEXT   LAST   Last Post  This is a comments thread about Blog Post: Star Trek Music Podcast by Jonathan Kaplan    Posted:   Apr 21, 2009 - 8:36 PM     By:   TJ   (Member) Listening now, fun times!    Posted:   Apr 21, 2009 - 8:42 PM     By:   franz_conrad   (Member) Great to hear these guys again.    Posted:   Apr 21, 2009 - 8:45 PM     By:   LeHah   (Member) Wasn't John Barry's The Black Hole the last score to have an overture? Not ST TMP?    Posted:   Apr 21, 2009 - 8:48 PM     By:   TJ   (Member) I love it when they break down the music theory, the types of chords and scales. Wish there was more of that type of stuff in articles/liner notes.    Posted:   Apr 21, 2009 - 8:58 PM     By:   LeHah   (Member) The fact that they skipped over everything following Generations is something that leaves a bad taste in one's mouth. The fact that they outright dismissed it in the way that they did is nothing short of disgusting. Nevermind its Jerry Goldsmith - why is it that they can find the time to bash Horner and Rosenman but not say *anything* about the last three ST scores? For people who turn their noses up at Rosenman's ego - they sure do a damn good job filling his shoes by acting the same way.    Posted:   Apr 21, 2009 - 9:02 PM     By:   TJ   (Member) They mentioned the excellent First Contact theme.    Posted:   Apr 21, 2009 - 9:08 PM     By:   LeHah   (Member) They mentioned the excellent First Contact theme. Yeah, they gave an entire score a once-over by mentioning one theme from it. Not Joel Goldsmith's work on it, not the music or other themes or how it functions or is written - certainly not of the detail they did the previous seven scores. Its glib and in poor taste. It has a mean way of being complimentary to its subject matter.    Posted:   Apr 21, 2009 - 9:13 PM     By:   franz_conrad   (Member) I find all critical impulses fall away when I hear their little 'Doug Adams' theme song. But Lehah, if you want to take it too seriously, just compare to their historical episodes on the Star Wars saga, Indiana Jones saga, the Shyamalan films, etc. In that context, the brief whistlestop scattershot tour of the Trek series hardly seems unusual. It's more extensive a tour than they've done before, and a hard subject to sum up in under 10 minutes.    Posted:   Apr 21, 2009 - 9:21 PM     By:   LeHah   (Member) It's more extensive a tour than they've done before, and a hard subject to sum up in under 10 minutes. Given the context that they can't make a criticism of the Giacchino score without either giving away too much or giving anything away to an audience who hasn't heard it and has no context for agreement or disagreement - it seems a fools errand to skip over 3 / 10ths known, established material simply because they turn their noses up at it. That would be like discussing Galileo, Einstein , Tipler and then say "Oh yeah, that Hawking guy went into the hospital this week. Moving on..." I don't want to say its "unprofessional" (since this *is* a podcast we're talking about) but there is something to the word.    Posted:   Apr 21, 2009 - 9:37 PM     By:   Erik Woods   (Member) I don't want to say its "unprofessional" (since this *is* a podcast we're talking about) but there is something to the word. That's a bit of a low blow. Podcasts *can't* be professional? IMHO, FSM's Podcast is one of the finest film music related radio programs/podcasts I've ever heard. -Erik- PS - They almost completely skipped over Star Trek III as well.... minus that Klingon Theme/Aliens jab. I think they gave Goldsmith plenty of air time and moved swiftly onto the portion of the show that most of us were really "tuning" in for... that being Giacchino's new score. Another fine show, guys!    Posted:   Apr 21, 2009 - 10:27 PM     By:   Lukas Kendall   (Member) I feel like Bones in whatever episode that was where he's so happy to have gotten in the last word...was that Journey to Babel? I am a nerd! Lukas    Posted:   Apr 21, 2009 - 11:48 PM     By:   CindyLover   (Member) I feel like Bones in whatever episode that was where he's so happy to have gotten in the last word...was that Journey to Babel? Yes.    Posted:   Apr 22, 2009 - 12:00 AM     By:   Josh Mitchell   (Member) I am a nerd! Lukas Yes, you are. But you're in good company.    Posted:   Apr 22, 2009 - 5:30 AM     By:   LeHah   (Member) That's a bit of a low blow. Podcasts *can't* be professional? Podcasts can't be, really. They're homebrew stuff - largely made by people at home, who feel that the medium can better express their opinions. If they are good or not needs to be taken on a case-by-case basis and has nothing to do with "professionalism" - its simply a matter of proper labeling, as opposed to something like NPR or the like.    Posted:   Apr 22, 2009 - 6:06 AM     By:   MaurizioCaschetto   (Member) This podcast is a very welcome comeback, I've enjoyed it a lot. Good job, guys.    Posted:   Apr 22, 2009 - 6:13 AM     By:   Hedji   (Member) I love it when they break down the music theory, the types of chords and scales. Wish there was more of that type of stuff in articles/liner notes. YES! The medium of podcasting is absolutely perfect for this type of stuff. I know nothing about music theory, so it's nice to have it illustrated without it being crammed down our throats. Nice to have the show back! More! Longer Episodes! More!    Posted:   Apr 22, 2009 - 6:25 AM     By:   Thor   (Member) Nice podcast, even for someone like me who only has a passing interest in the franchise (even though I DO own all the film soundtracks!).    Posted:   Apr 22, 2009 - 6:49 AM     By:   glenniebun   (Member) The medium of podcasting is absolutely perfect for this type of stuff. I know nothing about music theory, so it's nice to have it illustrated without it being crammed down our throats. Nice to have the show back! More! Longer Episodes! More! Agreed 100%. I love having examples of the music-theory analysis weaving in and out of the discussions, for the times when I have no idea what the terms are actually referring to. I only wish the episodes were longer, with more detail. I'm a bit ashamed to admit that the counterpoint between Giacchino's new theme and the TOS theme sailed right by me the first time I listened to the clip, since the new theme is what's really grabbed me. I'm so-so on the movie before seeing it, but I'm highly anticipating the score.    Posted:   Apr 22, 2009 - 7:11 AM     By:   Bibliomike   (Member) I love it when they break down the music theory, the types of chords and scales. Wish there was more of that type of stuff in articles/liner notes. YES! The medium of podcasting is absolutely perfect for this type of stuff. I know nothing about music theory, so it's nice to have it illustrated without it being crammed down our throats. Nice to have the show back! More! Longer Episodes! More! I agree! Bear McCreary was doing this kind of technical analysis of his own music on his blog during BSG (and may be doing the same for Sarah Connor, I dunno) -- but he reproduced excerpts from the score, no sound clips. Having your technical analysis of the music followed immediately sound clips that illustrate what you're saying really is helpful for non-musicologists such as myself. Keep it up!    Posted:   Apr 22, 2009 - 7:14 AM     By:   Bibliomike   (Member) I also meant to say that I have grudgingly come to enjoy Rosenman's ST IV score, even though it seems virtually identical to his "Lord of the Rings" score. My favorite Star Trek film is II, but TMP is probably my favorite score, if only for "The Enterprise" and "The Meld."     General Discussion: FSM Blog Post: Star Trek Music Podcast    < 1 2 3  > >>  Go to page:  1 2 3 4   First Post    General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2 3 4

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