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 Posted:   Apr 29, 2009 - 6:46 AM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

Caught this movie on Netflix Instant sunday night. Very impressive fare - much, much better than I expected from John Boorman.

Lalo's score is a little bit "all over the map" with some disonant saxophone slams. I'm not entirely sure it works with the picture but the combination of Marvin and Mifune facing off on a beach with the score screaming sour notes is not something I'm likely to forget soon.

(Strangely, there seems to be no release for this score, ever?)

 
 Posted:   Apr 29, 2009 - 7:09 AM   
 By:   calvin69   (Member)

It's true, this score was never released, not even with one track on some sampler.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 29, 2009 - 7:22 AM   
 By:   Cryogenix   (Member)

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 Posted:   Jun 3, 2012 - 2:00 PM   
 By:   Mink   (Member)

Just saw this one for the first time and...wow! A fantastic film (except for the "producer"-ending)!

The score is marvelous esspecially the shift from disonant action orientated music to a very emotional tone for the last third.

This is definitely one that the labels or Schifrin himself should release.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2012 - 2:43 PM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

Here's the Main Title music. It's very Leonard Rosenman like at the start and then gets a little lyrical towards the end.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2S38bBv1zY&feature=youtu.be

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2012 - 2:45 PM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

Someone uploaded the whole film, so you can hear and see it all here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wXkz6vuVHU&feature=related

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2012 - 3:00 PM   
 By:   xG-MONEYx   (Member)

I got this movie on DVD the other day for cheap, because of Lalo & who stared in it of course. I could see the score beening a double header with something, but with what?

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 29, 2015 - 6:20 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Does this score have any exotica content?

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 29, 2015 - 6:53 AM   
 By:   Rollin Hand   (Member)

Here's the Main Title music. It's very Leonard Rosenman like at the start and then gets a little lyrical towards the end.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2S38bBv1zY&feature=youtu.be


Between The Fox and THX 1138.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 29, 2015 - 12:22 PM   
 By:   Simon Morris   (Member)

Does this score have any exotica content?


It's a grim 'war' film as far as I remember. (Haven't seen it for years).

So I suspect not big grin

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 29, 2015 - 4:28 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)


It's a grim 'war' film as far as I remember. (Haven't seen it for years).

So I suspect not big grin


So you are saying that it would be inappropriate to score a grim war film with a genre whose seminal work depicts a human sacrifice?

Setting aside your understanding of what the genre of "exotica" entails: Compositional technique, instrumentation, and adaptations of regional musical components all exist outside of, and separately from, mood or tone. So elements of exotica could be used - and, importantly have been used - to portray a wide range of emotions from mystery, to bliss, to terror.

But using your assumption as an example:

I don't associate "Breakfast at Tiffany's" with Satan. So what would you say if I asked if a film about getting impregnated by Satan contained any light, Mancini-esque tracks? The answer would be yes, because such tracks appear in the "Rosemary's Baby" soundtrack.

I don't associate bossa nova with murder, but what if I asked if any giallos contained any light bossas? The answer would be yes, because many of them do (Cold Eyes of Fear, Case of the Bloody Iris, etc.)

So, given the locale of "Hell in the Pacific," and given the fact that WWII soldiers' experiences in the Pacific played a role in the postwar tiki craze, I will ask again:

Does the score for "Hell in the Pacific" contain any exotica content?

 
 Posted:   Sep 29, 2015 - 4:53 PM   
 By:   Ray Worley   (Member)

Does this score have any exotica content?

My memory is not perfect, but this movie depicts two soldiers stranded on a deserted island with no contact with anyone else. No radio even, I believe. The score is very avant-garde with lots of dissonance.

So, no exotica.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 29, 2015 - 4:55 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

I appreciate the replies, but respectfully, many of the participants are unfamiliar with exotica. There is plenty of exotica that could be described as "avant-garde with lots of dissonance."

So I guess I will either have to watch the film or seek a response elsewhere.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 29, 2015 - 5:07 PM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

I appreciate the replies, but respectfully, many of the participants are unfamiliar with exotica. There is plenty of exotica that could be described as "avant-garde with lots of dissonance."

So I guess I will either have to watch the film or seek a response elsewhere.


Hi, Onya.

I own Hell in the Pacific on home video. Schifrin's score is one of his earliest ('68) to sound 'experimental'. As much as I like this score and wish it were on an album, this music doesn't communicate its locale (the South Pacific) and its characteristics are neither luxuriant nor hedonistic.

Don't expect Villa-Lobos/tropical soundscapes.

The music is rather austere and erupts at times with ironic cacophonies. The later portions tend to sound jubilant as the 2 protagonists build a raft and sail the sea (think Goldsmith's Papillon when Steve McQueen first escapes from Devil's Island). smile


 
 
 Posted:   Sep 29, 2015 - 5:08 PM   
 By:   Simon Morris   (Member)

I appreciate the replies, but respectfully, many of the participants are unfamiliar with exotica. There is plenty of exotica that could be described as "avant-garde with lots of dissonance."

So I guess I will either have to watch the film or seek a response elsewhere.




Why not do both Onya. Respectfully.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 29, 2015 - 5:09 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)


Hi, Onya.

I own Hell in the Pacific on home video. Schifrin's score is one of his earliest ('68) to sound 'experimental'. As much as I like this score and wish it were on an album, this music doesn't communicate its locale (the South Pacific) and its characteristics are neither luxuriant nor hedonistic.

Don't expect Villa-Lobos/tropical soundscapes.

The music is rather austere and erupts at times with ironic cacophonies. The later portions tend to sound jubilant as the 2 protagonists build a raft and sail the sea (think Goldsmith's Papillon when Steve McQueen first escapes from Devil's Island). smile


Thanks, Zardoz! I knew I could count on you! wink

 
 Posted:   Sep 29, 2015 - 8:15 PM   
 By:   Ray Worley   (Member)

I appreciate the replies, but respectfully, many of the participants are unfamiliar with exotica. There is plenty of exotica that could be described as "avant-garde with lots of dissonance."

So I guess I will either have to watch the film or seek a response elsewhere.


That's a really patronizing response to my attempt to answer your question. I am totally familiar with exotica and I am 99% sure that nothing in this score comes close to falling in that category.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 29, 2015 - 8:25 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)


That's a really patronizing response to my attempt to answer your question. I am totally familiar with exotica and I am 99% sure that nothing in this score comes close to falling in that category.


Then my sincere apologies, I misunderstood. I interpreted your response to mean that avant-garde with lots of dissonance inherently prevented the score from being exotica, so the inference was mine. Again, sincere apologies.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 30, 2015 - 4:46 AM   
 By:   MCurry29   (Member)

Now- there's a score for Vinyl release INTRADA. One of my favorite movies.

 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2022 - 4:24 PM   
 By:   Ny   (Member)

I'm curious if any of the labels have ever looked into this one.
There's a significant amount of score, it's very upfront in the movie, it covers a range of styles, and it becomes quite thematic by the end. Seems like it would be worth a release.
I'd grab it as a companion piece to Intrada's Escape from Alcatraz / Hell is for Heroes.

 
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