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 Posted:   Jun 2, 2009 - 1:25 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Geezes, it's incredible to think that this pile of shit from 1986 comes from the same guy who gave us the original TCM. Either Tobe Hooper was high on something or he did it just to play a joke on us all. Hard to say.

So what do we have here? Well, a whole bunch of blood and splatter and gore (unlike its far more sober, yet equally visceral prequel) and an endless assault of annoying screaming! There were several times I thought to myself "can someone please kill off the girl already so we can have some silence here!". Even Dennis Hopper, who I usually like, succumbed to the whole screaming thing. This aspect of the film prevented it from becoming an unintential comedy that could otherwise have been enjoyed for its camp appeal.

It seems like something went wrong early on here, in the writing process. Totally over-the-top - from the effort to "humanize" Leatherface to the grandiose amusement park "lair" of the family (which wasn't half bad as a moody set, I admit).

Musically, Tobe Hooper himself and Jerry Lambert (who?) provide the cheesy synth score - which sounds like Bernard Herrmann played through a Casio alarm clock! The PSYCHO ode as the girl drives towards the park is especially hilarious.

There is also the standard list of various 80's hits (played by the DJ girl on her radio show), and of particular notice here is of course Oingo Boingo's "No One Lives Forever" - again the reason for watching this excrement - played as a song on the radio in the opening as we are introduced to Leatherface and his famous chainsaw (and the two boys that meet their maker at the end of it). The song is played in full and obviously adds meaning to the whole scene - both through the energetic ska beat and the morbid lyrics (No One Lives Forever, but Leatherface apparently does...and the boys do not!).

 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2009 - 4:15 PM   
 By:   workingwithknives   (Member)

It should have ended with the first film. The temptation to exploit for the sake a making an easy dollar is more common these days than not.

If you think Tobe Hooper's sequel is bad, don't dare watch the remake from a few years ago, it's worse.

 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2009 - 4:59 PM   
 By:   Josh Mitchell   (Member)

I love TCM2. It's totally campy and over-the-top in every way, nothing at all like the original (which I also love, but for different reasons). Also, if a score CD were to be released, I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2009 - 5:04 PM   
 By:   Eric Feasterville   (Member)

I think TCM 2 is a sadly misunderstood flick. Nobody seems to understand that it is pretty much, a straight out absurdist comedy. Granted, that's probably not what most fans of the original wanted to see, but I believe it's looney fun. And I love the Stewart Copeland song, "Strange Things Happen" from the soundrack.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2009 - 5:25 PM   
 By:   LRobHubbard   (Member)

It's very much over the top intentially -- another misunderstood absurdist comedy by Hooper (EATEN ALIVE being the first one).

 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2009 - 5:38 PM   
 By:   Hercule Platini   (Member)

I like it. It's massively gory and excessive (the British censor refused it a certificate for about 15 years as they wanted to remove about 20 minutes of footage)and great bonkers entertainment. The original is a truly distressing experience that looks like they gave a load of film equipment to a bunch of genuinely crazy people and told them to make a movie.

 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2009 - 9:34 PM   
 By:   Holly Mitchell   (Member)

I love TCM2. It's totally campy and over-the-top in every way, nothing at all like the original (which I also love, but for different reasons). Also, if a score CD were to be released, I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

TCM2 *is* TCM2. It is in NO WAY meant to be on and/or of the same level as the original TCM. And yes, if the score was released, I'd purchase it immediately.

In addition, I feel that Hopper played his role appropriately. He's an actor that can fit many bills. And although this was a sequel (which typically get a bad rap when compared with the "Birth Mother"), Lefty (Hopper) was a unique character that made his own mark in the TCM film legacy.

As Lefty would say: "I'm the Lord of the Harvest!"

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2009 - 4:32 AM   
 By:   Tobias   (Member)

Musically, Tobe Hooper himself and Jerry Lambert (who?) provide the cheesy synth score - which sounds like Bernard Herrmann played through a Casio alarm clock! The PSYCHO ode as the girl drives towards the park is especially hilarious.

If I`m not mistaken Jerry Lambert is/was Harry Manfredini`s recording engineer and mixer.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2009 - 9:51 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I guess I can understand how something like this can become a cult favourite, especially among the horror crowd (of which I am not part). However, I do NOT buy the ol' "misunderstood gem" argument here. No way. There are far too many filmatic FLAWS for it to have the campy, "stupid" comedy appeal. In my opinion, anyway.

 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2009 - 10:01 AM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

I've always liked this movie. Used to rent it repeatedly from the local video store and I know it like the back of my hand. It's a completely different experience than the first film and the studio did mess with it big time. It just has a wackyness to it that is so off the wall and still remains scary in parts. I named my dog after the corpse character - Nubbins.


 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2009 - 10:31 AM   
 By:   David Kessler   (Member)

And Chop Top was a hell of an interesting psycho...
I do not like the original 1974 movie (its plain boring) but this was a riot (it was so bad that it became good *L*) A black comedy that maybe was ahead of its time??
The only true TCM that makes the name proud is the 2003 version...
This decades best horror movie (yeah Im serious here)

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2009 - 10:50 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

If you think Tobe Hooper's sequel is bad, don't dare watch the remake from a few years ago, it's worse.

Actually, I've seen that, and it's CITIZEN bloody KANE in comparison to this!

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2009 - 11:17 AM   
 By:   ahem   (Member)

To my mind, this is La Dolce Vita compared to Tobe Hooper's recent output, specifically the sanitised and cheapo CROCODILE.

 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2009 - 11:56 AM   
 By:   Eric Feasterville   (Member)

Mutant....

Naming your dog "Nubbins" is brilliant. And yes, the film had a terribly troubled production history...and a lot story-line stuff was gutted by good 'ol Cannon Films.

But I still stand by it. Jim Siedow is hilarious in the film.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2009 - 12:55 PM   
 By:   ahem   (Member)

Hooper seemed to be given carte blanche while working for Cannon in the mid80s. Tens of millions of dollars spent on films seemingly without an audience.

Is Jerry Lambert Hooper's idea of Alan Howarth? I guess Mancini wasn't an option this time.

 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2009 - 1:27 PM   
 By:   workingwithknives   (Member)

The big star of "Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2" is Tom Savini and his creativity. I'll watch just about anything Tom Savini works on. I mean, what would the film be without that guys input? The script sure couldn't keep it going.

The last two films I saw at a drive-in theatre was "Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2" and "Reanimator" on a double bill shortly before the old "Holiday Drive-In" boarded up for good.

Have to say, I've always got a kick out of the skeleton of poor old Franklin in his wheelchair.

 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2009 - 1:32 PM   
 By:   David Sones (Allardyce)   (Member)

The big star of "Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2" is Tom Savini and his creativity. I'll watch just about anything Tom Savini works on.

Have you seen Savini's work in The Prowler (1982)? Highly recommend it.

 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2009 - 1:36 PM   
 By:   workingwithknives   (Member)

The big star of "Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2" is Tom Savini and his creativity. I'll watch just about anything Tom Savini works on.

Have you seen Savini's work in The Prowler (1982)? Highly recommend it.


Haven't seen "The Prowler". Sounds good. I think Tom Savini worked on "Midnight" which is another film I've yet to see some day.

 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2009 - 1:52 PM   
 By:   David Sones (Allardyce)   (Member)

The big star of "Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2" is Tom Savini and his creativity. I'll watch just about anything Tom Savini works on.

Have you seen Savini's work in The Prowler (1982)? Highly recommend it.


Haven't seen "The Prowler". Sounds good. I think Tom Savini worked on "Midnight" which is another film I've yet to see some day.


The Prowler is really creative and fun, and of course, gruesome. Even though I figured out the identity of the killer in about 10 seconds, it was still worth the ride. On a side note, I really enjoy Savini's acting bits, like in From Dusk Till Dawn and recently in Planet Terror. He just seems like he'd be one of the coolest guys in the world to hang out with.

 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2009 - 1:54 PM   
 By:   Eric Feasterville   (Member)

I think Savini's best work was by far, George Romero's DAY OF THE DEAD. Then again, the original CREEPSHOW is terrific too.

Savini is pretty great as an actor as well. He plays a good role in Romero's KNIGHTRIDERS opposite Ed Harris and he was a lotta fun in FROM DUSK TIL DAWN as well.

 
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