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 Posted:   Jun 19, 2009 - 1:17 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

This 1984 classic is another standard of the decade that I had to revisit. Molly Ringwald, Anthony Michael Hall, John Hughes...the ingredients are all there.

I love how the characters seem to be two-dimensional on the surface, yet you're continually surprised by their depth and their...how shall I put it, unpredictability. Molly herself, her father, Jake, the geek - they are all introduced as shallow people, yet enjoy one or two scenes "of glory" that really add to their persona. I love that, and it's certainly not a recurrent quality of 80's teen comedies.

The music actually plays a pivotal role in the comic delivery, for example by various comic "stingers" (the huge gong sound for the Long Duck Dong character, the el guitar wail for sexy boobs or butts) or by juxtaposing famous film and TV themes with various situations - TWILIGHT ZONE for when Molly discovers that her grandparents have moved into her room, PETER GUNN for the pan across the boys at the dance, the GODFATHER theme for the meeting of the parents-in-law and so on.

Otherwise, Ira Newborn's score is BLAST! Superb stuff that ranges from funky electroboogie or acid-jazz-type music a la Yellowjackets to his trademark blues riffs.

The songs are awesome too, everything from AC/DC to Spandau Ballet to David Bowie. And yes, Oingo Boingo, of course! This time it's "Wild Sex (in the Working Class)" from NOTHING TO FEAR that is played at...what else....the school dance, accompanying Anthony Michael Hall's failed attempt to woo Molly on the dance floor.

Great fun, and a soundtrack worth owning if you're an 80's junkie!

 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2009 - 1:23 PM   
 By:   David Sones (Allardyce)   (Member)

My favorite joke is watching Joan Cusack trying to get a drink of water from a fountain with that terrible contraption on her head. A comedy classic.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2009 - 1:24 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

My favorite joke is watching Joan Cusack trying to get a drink of water from a fountain with that terrible contraption on her head. A comedy classic.

He, he...yeah, that's a great scene.

I really like Long Duck Dong's antics too! big grin

 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2009 - 1:28 PM   
 By:   David Sones (Allardyce)   (Member)


I really like Long Duck Dong's antics too! big grin





"Whhhhut's happening, hot stuff?"

 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2009 - 1:39 PM   
 By:   Michael Condon   (Member)

A true classic from the 80's!
I love the grandma fixing breakfast with manicured nails and a cigarette hanging out her mouth.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2009 - 1:52 PM   
 By:   ahem   (Member)

There's hardly any Newborn score in it, is there? Aside from the string music that plays when Sam bonds with her Father, the rest seems to be extensive pop songs and famous movie themes.

The two big songs that dominate Sixteen Candles for me are the self titled opening instrumental by KajaGoogoo (which I bet so many of you think is Newborn) and of course the glorious ending song by the Thompson Twins, from their mega hit Quick Step album, If You Were Here. That ending is romantic, teen movie perfection.

I think Sixteen Candles is a gorgeous movie.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2009 - 1:53 PM   
 By:   ScottDS   (Member)

I just watched this film again and I still crack up every time, even at things that aren't that funny in and of themselves.

"You don't spell it, son, you eat it!" And my friend is quite fond of "...Automobile???"

And I had forgotten about the Godfather music playing during the dinner scene with the Ricechecks (or Rizcheks or however that was spelled). smile

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2009 - 2:03 PM   
 By:   ahem   (Member)

I think Paul Dooley owns the movie. What an underrated character actor he is. I also love how the casting totally fits all of the family characters.

Hall is hilarious, Wattanabe of course, as is the hugely underrated 80s actress Haviland Morris, who ended up playing spoiled yuppy queens in 80s romps like Who's That Girl and Gremlins 2.

The ending to 16 Candles is in my opinion one of the high points of 80s pop cinema. Gets me everytime when Jake is revealed next to his Porsche at the end.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2009 - 2:16 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

There's hardly any Newborn score in it, is there? Aside from the string music that plays when Sam bonds with her Father, the rest seems to be extensive pop songs and famous movie themes.

No, there's actually quite a bit, such as the cool electroboogie tunes for various car-driving scenes ("Geek Boogie" on the soundtrack) or the blues music in Jake's house. Plus some odds'n'ends here and there. Certainly enough to make up a decent suite.

The two big songs that dominate Sixteen Candles for me are the self titled opening instrumental by KajaGoogoo (which I bet so many of you think is Newborn)

No, I'm well aware it's a KajaGoogo instrumental. I agree that it's one of the highlights!

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2009 - 2:27 PM   
 By:   ahem   (Member)

I can't remember the car music, I just remember the opening of Young Guns by Wham! when Father Ted starts driving Caroline off (could Jake and him get arrested for that)??

Maybe you could probably just about stretch a suite out of the score material, but it doesn't seem much of a "score" to me. The songs do all the dramatic work, in my opinion. It's probably one of the top example of a dramatic score being completely inappropriate. This is interesting given that for Hughe's follow up, Breakfast Club, he hired pop producer Keith Forsey to do songs and a dramatic score, both of which were perfectly in synch with each other.

The other great thing about Sixteen Candles is that, being made in the early 80s as oppose to later on in the decade, much of the fashion and colour has aged really well. It's not gratuitously 80s, but just fun enough to be nostalgiac. The clothes everyone wears in the film for example is actually pretty tasteful and relevant today, regardles sof the nostagiac 80s comeback. How many jocks do we see every day dressed like Jake in 2009? Most of them. i think something like Pretty In Pink is an eyesore by comparison.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2009 - 2:49 PM   
 By:   John McMasters   (Member)

"Sixteen Candles" was one of my best loved films for many years. I recently rewatched it in HD -- and some parts seem truly stupid and archaic -- for example the portrayal of Long Duk Dong which struck me as dumb this time around -- an obviously easy source of humor for Mr. Hughs as he cranked out screenplay after screenplay. Paul Dooley was as fine as ever -- and every time I see the film my admiration for Anthony Michael Hall grows greater -- and his morning after scene with the blond bimbo is strangely affecting. It is a shame that Michael Schoeffling gave up acting so soon during the 6 years following this film (he's pretty good in "Vision Quest" too) -- although the last interview I read years ago reported he was extremely happy being a "lay" person and building furniture at his country home.

Thor, I'm beginning to think that your favorite all-time composer is the entity known as "Various" !

smile

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2009 - 3:07 PM   
 By:   ahem   (Member)

Nice post, and I agree with the Thor/Various comment! smile

I'd love to know if any of the scenes from the film were written with songs in mind. All of the up to the minute "contemporary" songs used in Sixteen Candles were from 1983, not 1984 when the film was released, which hints there's a possibility there. The IF YOU WERE HERE ending especially looks as though it was filmed around the Thompson Twins song, particularly that great bit where Dooley's Father character mimics the chivalrous door opening of Jake.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2009 - 3:15 PM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

Can't say I've every really paid close attention to the music. Shame on me.

Just love everyone in this movie. One of the most comedic teen movies I've ever watched.

 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2009 - 4:51 AM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

The Kajagoogoo song is great. It somehow reminds me of Thomas Newman, circa The Man With One Red Shoe, 1985.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 21, 2009 - 1:14 AM   
 By:   Tobias   (Member)

the self titled opening instrumental by KajaGoogoo (which I bet so many of you think is Newborn)


Thanks for that information. I did not know that.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 12, 2014 - 3:08 AM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

I recently saw SIXTEEN CANDLES for the first time, having never seen it in the theater. I have two questions:

1. I watched the film on the 1992 VHS, the "Home Video Version" with "Some Music Rescored." Does anyone know what songs may have been dropped from this version? I understand that the first (unnamed) DVD edition from 2000 may also be of this Home Video Version. But apparently, subsequent DVD editions (there have been many) have reverted back to the theatrical score. These editions are the High School Reunion Edition (2003), the Brat Pack Edition (2005) and the Flashback Edition (2008). Then of course, there is the Blu-ray (2012).

2. I wasn't aware that the soundtrack has ever been issued on CD. I'm only aware of the original "mini-LP" that was issued with 5 tracks, one of which was the Ira Newborn "Geek Boogie" track. Is Thor's image in the first post of some CD release?



 
 Posted:   Jan 12, 2014 - 5:14 AM   
 By:   DeviantMan   (Member)

Never was a CD release.
I think Rhino might have pursued it IF their expanded VALLEY GIRL soundtrack albums sold better.

I'd also love a full CD of songs and score from FERRIS BUELLER

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 12, 2014 - 8:33 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I remember that when I posted that cover, I was certain it was a legitimate soundtrack release. Sorry to hear that there isn't any. There really should be, although I guess it's a rights issue nightmare with all the (crucial) songs.

 
 Posted:   Jan 12, 2014 - 8:38 AM   
 By:   FarTraveler   (Member)

Never was a CD release.
I think Rhino might have pursued it IF their expanded VALLEY GIRL soundtrack albums sold better.

I'd also love a full CD of songs and score from FERRIS BUELLER


Agreed! And, while we're dreaming, I'd love to see a score release for "Some Kind of Wonderful." There was, of course, a soundtrack release, but -- as is typical of the 1980s soundtrack scene -- it includes absolutely NONE of the score by Stephen Hague and John Musser. A nice breakdown is available here:
http://www.somekindofwonderful.org/soundtrack.html

 
 Posted:   Jan 19, 2014 - 10:45 AM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

Never was a CD release.
I think Rhino might have pursued it IF their expanded VALLEY GIRL soundtrack albums sold better.

I'd also love a full CD of songs and score from FERRIS BUELLER


Agreed! And, while we're dreaming, I'd love to see a score release for "Some Kind of Wonderful." There was, of course, a soundtrack release, but -- as is typical of the 1980s soundtrack scene -- it includes absolutely NONE of the score by Stephen Hague and John Musser. A nice breakdown is available here:
http://www.somekindofwonderful.org/soundtrack.html


Hey, finally another fan of the Hague/Musser score! I seem to remember that the score isn't much more than those two cues referred to on the site, which I of course have transferred to CD. Too bad those two cues weren't compiled into a track on the album though. A pity Hague never did another score, he is a terrific music producer/writer, and he of course worked on New Order's song True Faith the same year as SKOW, 1987. I wonder who John Musser was, though.

 
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