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I agree Kevin, especially about the Portrait track. When the film was released I was so sad that it wasn't included, then I found one of the many Titanic type releases from other people that had a piano version on it, I was in HEAVEN. I love the score. There is one theme that isn't on either of the 2 CD's, it's like an older Rose theme. One of my favorites is the ending when Rose goes to sleep, man I would love to have that track!
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The one that our own Bruce Kimmel is raking in the dough from featured the best piano recording of "The Portrait," and I'm counting Horner's own Back To Titanic version.
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I have several relevant CDs, namely the six in the middle of this picture: No one loves TITANIC more than I do and I play the main CD often, but I can't get into BACK. The overlay of dialog tracks onto some of the music didn't work for me and I felt it bordered on schlock, or at least kitch. The Bruce Kimmel CD, TITANIC: THE ULTIMATE COLLECTION, is recommended. I strongly second the opinion that this CD's piano solo is superior to the one on BACK. Even the sound quality is better.
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I agree Kevin, especially about the Portrait track. When the film was released I was so sad that it wasn't included, then I found one of the many Titanic type releases from other people that had a piano version on it, I was in HEAVEN. I was there too. I was the straight guy.
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I have several relevant CDs, namely the six in the middle of this picture: No one loves TITANIC more than I do and I play the main CD often, but I can't get into BACK. The overlay of dialog tracks onto some of the music didn't work for me and I felt it bordered on schlock, or at least kitch. Do yourself a favor and track down the DTS 5.1 version of it. Hell, I'll mail you a copy! The one common criticism of the DTS version (which is the same mix as the hybrid SACD but obviously this one doesn't require SACD playback) is the minimal LFE and surround channel output, but I made my own version boosting the gain on those channels (had to break down each track into its six channels each first)to make the mix more evenly balanced, you can actually hear those rears and the LFE. Then, I went a step further and made separate downmixed stereo (the mix is better than the standard stereo CD), as well as a 'center channel only' CD - so the whole score plays without synths - and a 'surround channel only' CD. I love listening to the different channels of 5.1 mixes, so making those separated audio discs was a treat. I did one more thing: I took the surround mix of "My Heart Will Go On", which uses strings only in the rear channels and mixed it with 'The Portrait' to make an instrumental, Celine-less version of the song. I might love TITANIC's score a bit more than you do, though I won't dispute your love of the subject overall...though I did make an extended version of the film on DVD using all the deleted scenes...
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ZapBrannigan you crack me up, cause I had ALMOST all of those things. When the movie came out I became a Titanic junkie and had almost all of those and I still own all the CD's. I love them all. Varese did one, I liked a lot and when I heard they were releasing a second one I was so excited. DO you remember back then talk that Horner was going to do like tour of either his titanic music or something else? I can't remember what, but there was talk of something.
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ZapBrannigan you crack me up, cause I had ALMOST all of those things. When the movie came out I became a Titanic junkie and had almost all of those and I still own all the CD's. I love them all. Varese did one, I liked a lot and when I heard they were releasing a second one I was so excited. I became a Titanic junkie around 1980, after seeing SOS TITANIC (David Warner, Susan Saint James) and reading A NIGHT TO REMEMBER. When they found the wreck in '85 I was in orbit, and of course the Cameron movie and its music blew me away. But I already had most of the stuff except for the CDs by then.
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DO you remember back then talk that Horner was going to do like tour of either his titanic music or something else? I can't remember what, but there was talk of something. In an interview, Horner said there was to be a tour beginning with a Hollywood Bowl concert but Big Business and corporate sponsors - hangers on looking to cash in on the Titanic craze just overwhelmed everything. It was to be an elaborate show with effects and so on as well, and apparently tickets for it weren't selling as much to pay for everything. That doesn't surprise me. Titanic Madness was taking hold at that point, ca. early 1998. There was even a group of investors planning to build a new ocean liner that would look exactly like the Titanic on the outside but be more modern inside due to practical and legal necessities. The project was featured in POPULAR MECHANICS if I recall, but reality re-surfaced at some point and the thing never got built.
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Do yourself a favor and track down the DTS 5.1 version of it. Hell, I'll mail you a copy! The one common criticism of the DTS version (which is the same mix as the hybrid SACD but obviously this one doesn't require SACD playback) is the minimal LFE and surround channel output, but I made my own version boosting the gain on those channels (had to break down each track into its six channels each first)to make the mix more evenly balanced, you can actually hear those rears and the LFE. Then, I went a step further and made separate downmixed stereo (the mix is better than the standard stereo CD), as well as a 'center channel only' CD - so the whole score plays without synths - and a 'surround channel only' CD. I love listening to the different channels of 5.1 mixes, so making those separated audio discs was a treat. I did one more thing: I took the surround mix of "My Heart Will Go On", which uses strings only in the rear channels and mixed it with 'The Portrait' to make an instrumental, Celine-less version of the song. I might love TITANIC's score a bit more than you do, though I won't dispute your love of the subject overall...though I did make an extended version of the film on DVD using all the deleted scenes... I'm impressed, even if I don't understand the technical stuff. I'm afraid I listen in simple two-channel stereo, usually on my iPod. I don't have a fancy sound system. But your reverse engineering has created whole new versions of the score. Very cool.
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Drop me a line at my email address in my profile, and I'll send you some tracks of these. Thanks! I'm at work right now, where private email is blocked for security reasons, but I will be back on my own computer in a couple of days and I've made a note to contact you.
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Thanks for the nice comments about my Titanic CD. I loved doing it and Randy Miller did a fantastic job conducting. And to give the pianist credit, it's the brilliant Terry Trotter, with whom I've done a whole slew of jazz albums.
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Yes, he of the famous Sketches On Star Wars album, a staple of many a mix of mine back then. "May The Force Be With You" was the perfect final track.
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I have several relevant CDs, namely the six in the middle of this picture: No one loves TITANIC more than I do and I play the main CD often, but I can't get into BACK. The overlay of dialog tracks onto some of the music didn't work for me and I felt it bordered on schlock, or at least kitch. Do yourself a favor and track down the DTS 5.1 version of it. Hell, I'll mail you a copy! The one common criticism of the DTS version (which is the same mix as the hybrid SACD but obviously this one doesn't require SACD playback) is the minimal LFE and surround channel output, but I made my own version boosting the gain on those channels (had to break down each track into its six channels each first)to make the mix more evenly balanced, you can actually hear those rears and the LFE. Then, I went a step further and made separate downmixed stereo (the mix is better than the standard stereo CD), as well as a 'center channel only' CD - so the whole score plays without synths - and a 'surround channel only' CD. I love listening to the different channels of 5.1 mixes, so making those separated audio discs was a treat. I did one more thing: I took the surround mix of "My Heart Will Go On", which uses strings only in the rear channels and mixed it with 'The Portrait' to make an instrumental, Celine-less version of the song. I might love TITANIC's score a bit more than you do, though I won't dispute your love of the subject overall...though I did make an extended version of the film on DVD using all the deleted scenes... NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRD!!!!!!!!! It's OK, as I've wanted to do something like that with another surround mix (Chicago II), but just don't have the capability.
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