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 Posted:   Jul 30, 2009 - 9:03 PM   
 By:   GoblinScore   (Member)

Is there a new 2cd set coming from MCA? I hear tell of such a thing, but
am having trouble tracking down whether it's real of some fan made album.....

Anyone? Ryan?? I hope it's real, long overdue and the tracklist I saw was
'muy bueno'

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 30, 2009 - 9:08 PM   
 By:   Michael24   (Member)

Woah! I didn't even know there was a second one. embarrassment

I have the first one (stumbled across it in some little music store several years ago) and love it. I bought it mostly for the Scrooged suite, but even the selections I was unfamiliar with -- Wisdom and (at the time) Midnight Run -- were great to hear.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 30, 2009 - 9:20 PM   
 By:   GoblinScore   (Member)

The first is still the best - great commentary from the man himself
and thoughtfully arranged short suites.

The second is a 2 disc set, with longer suites, and more great
commentary. Worth having with some neat unreleased stuff,
but the scores are good enough, I'd rather have the whole album
(Dolores, Batman Returns,Mission Impossible, Sommersby for example)
than 15-20 min. suites.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 30, 2009 - 9:24 PM   
 By:   ryankeaveney   (Member)

I once got an email from someone about this saying they had obtained a rare advance copy (HAHA) of this set from "an Uncle who works at a major label".

Apparently, and I'm trying not to laugh until I choke, they said:

"A promotional copy of the set has been pressed and advance copies will be sent to two separate vendors next week. I will most likely receive one of these (as i have requested it) but be warned it is pretty rare!"

When I pressed a little further (obviously I fell for this convincing story...), they replied:

"I'm sorry, due to a privacy agreement (i had to sign a disclaimer) i was asked not to share any information about this yet. Copyright usage is still in disputes and i was told that there's a chance it might never go to mass pressing. Needless to say a 2 disc promo of the album exists, i hold it in my hands! Cover artwork and inside liner notes were also prepared as a one-sheet. I can tell you there are lots of rareties on this, but nothing from Rabbits and Rogues [sic] or The Overeager Overture unfortunately. frown Still it is a worthy entry in the series and sums up about 12 years of scores! Due to the policy waiver i can't share the exact content on the discs though, sorry. It is probably best if you keep this information to yourself and hopefully settlements will be resolved and it will get a proper release in due time."

HAHAHAHA.

In fact it is a fan-made compilation with standard, already available selections from Elfman's scores and rarities cobbled together from various sources. The obvious homemade artwork uses the MCA Soundtracks logo, however I don't think they're even around anymore.

So in short, it's fake and I get crazy e-mails. All the time!

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 30, 2009 - 10:24 PM   
 By:   GoblinScore   (Member)

Wowza.....thank Ryan, I knew you'd come through on this one.

Unable to find anything, I thought something was rotten in Denmark,
but damn that tracklist that is making the rounds looks good. Even
if a lot of it is readily available, it's cool to have these things packed
together professionally, and I love Elfman's notes......

 
 Posted:   Jul 30, 2009 - 10:39 PM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

Goblin, if it's fake, those aren't Elfman's notes.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 30, 2009 - 11:17 PM   
 By:   GoblinScore   (Member)

No, I know there wouldn't be real notes on it, I'm just saying it
would be great if this thing was real.....and isn't Silvestri WAY
overdue for one of these too???

 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2009 - 12:17 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

For a Music From A Darkened Theater?

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2009 - 12:55 AM   
 By:   Synclave   (Member)

I just remember that when the first two volumes were released some were complaining that the title "Music for a Darkened Theater" was racist. People are funny.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2009 - 3:19 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Rumours of a sequel album has been spinning around ever since the release of No. 2 in 1996. Of course, it is long overdue, but since it's already been 13 years, I'm not sure we'll see another. In any case, I'll always wait for an OFFICIAL source.

 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2009 - 6:43 AM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

The only problem I forsee about a "Vol. 3" release is...what unreleased Elfman bits would be included on it? Essentially every score Elfman's written since 1996 has gotten a CD release, whereas the first two volumes had plenty of otherwise unreleased material (Scrooged, Dead Presidents, ect.).

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2009 - 7:00 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

The only problem I forsee about a "Vol. 3" release is...what unreleased Elfman bits would be included on it? Essentially every score Elfman's written since 1996 has gotten a CD release, whereas the first two volumes had plenty of otherwise unreleased material (Scrooged, Dead Presidents, ect.).

Several things:

POINT PLEASANT - Theme
FAMILY MAN (only on a promo, except the snippets on the commercial disc)
MODERN VAMPIRES
THE DILBERT ZONE - Theme (although it's a reworking of a FORBIDDEN ZONE track)
SCREAM 2 - "Cassandra's Aria"
GOOD WILL HUNTING (only on a promo, except the snippets on the commercial disc)
PERVERSIONS OF SCIENCE - Theme

Also, if you look at his career as a whole, there are several unreleased gems here and there:

KROQ - radio jingle
BUDWEISER - commercial (albeit as Boingo)
NISSAN - commercial
FORD/LINCOLN/MERCURY - commercial
HONDA - commercial
STAINBOY - the internet animations
SUMMER SCHOOL
AMAZING STORIES - "Family Dog"
HOT TO TROT - beyond the brief excerpt on MFADT1
Hollywood Pictures - Logo

And if we go beyond films into the unreleased concert works:

Overeager Overture
Rabbit & Rogue (ballet)
The Fortune Teller (puppet show)

And how about recording a couple of snippets from his unreleased musicals:

JIMMY CALLICUT
LITTLE DEMONS

 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2009 - 7:38 AM   
 By:   orion_mk3   (Member)

Not to mention:

NACHO LIBRE - 1 track on the CD covered with dialog, but Elfman wrote a full and partially rejected score.
NOTORIOUS - Main title on the album, the rest of this brief score is unreleased.
HEARTBREAKERS - Elfman wrote the themes, perhaps there is a nice concert presentation of them or demo.
MY FAVORITE MARTIAN - Same as above.
DEEP SEA 3D - Sure it's just Serenada reworked, but Elfman was at the sessions and there may be some original material co-composed with Debbie W.

If anything, I'd say the main impediment to a Volume 3 is that there's TOO MUCH out there even for a 2-disc set. Even if it only contained officially unreleased stuff it would be packed to the gills.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2009 - 7:45 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Not to mention:

NACHO LIBRE - 1 track on the CD covered with dialog, but Elfman wrote a full and partially rejected score.
NOTORIOUS - Main title on the album, the rest of this brief score is unreleased.
HEARTBREAKERS - Elfman wrote the themes, perhaps there is a nice concert presentation of them or demo.
MY FAVORITE MARTIAN - Same as above.
DEEP SEA 3D - Sure it's just Serenada reworked, but Elfman was at the sessions and there may be some original material co-composed with Debbie W.

If anything, I'd say the main impediment to a Volume 3 is that there's TOO MUCH out there even for a 2-disc set. Even if it only contained officially unreleased stuff it would be packed to the gills.


Yeah, I forgot those, although I wouldn't necessarily include HEARTBREAKERS and MARTIAN. Elfman only composed the "Heartbreakers Theme" for the former and "Uncle Martin's Theme" for the latter, and these are both incorporated into Debney's respective scores with regular intervals. I doubt there exists fuller "concert" versions of these, but if it does - by all means, let's hear them! smile

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2009 - 1:43 PM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

Did Fable ever get a proper CD release (outside of a promo or DL that is)? There's the theme from that as well.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2009 - 1:46 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Did Fable ever get a proper CD release (outside of a promo or DL that is)? There's the theme from that as well.

Yes, it was released on Sumthing Else Records:

http://www.amazon.com/Fable-Russell-Shaw/dp/B0007KTB4Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1249069575&sr=1-1

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2009 - 6:30 PM   
 By:   reza   (Member)

It is said that for Chicago, Elfman did four score tracks and one source music. I like the two score tracks in the album so I've always wanted to hear the rest.

And Proud Iza
http://www.fernfilms.org/

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2009 - 6:47 PM   
 By:   GoblinScore   (Member)

Yep, phony as hell on closer inspection - but at a 'glance' it looked real.

I meant that Silvestri is due for another compilation record....although
his first one is rare, so maybe due for his first? Not that Varese VOYAGES
thing, his promo with Predator, Critical Condition, that stuff

 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2009 - 9:10 PM   
 By:   Silence Is Golden   (Member)

Not to mention:

NACHO LIBRE - 1 track on the CD covered with dialog, but Elfman wrote a full and partially rejected score.
NOTORIOUS - Main title on the album, the rest of this brief score is unreleased.
HEARTBREAKERS - Elfman wrote the themes, perhaps there is a nice concert presentation of them or demo.
MY FAVORITE MARTIAN - Same as above.
DEEP SEA 3D - Sure it's just Serenada reworked, but Elfman was at the sessions and there may be some original material co-composed with Debbie W.

If anything, I'd say the main impediment to a Volume 3 is that there's TOO MUCH out there even for a 2-disc set. Even if it only contained officially unreleased stuff it would be packed to the gills.


Nacho Libre was not rejected. Elfman was completely pissed that director Jared Hess didn't know in what direction the music was going to go. Remember Elfman's score is a replacement for a rejected score written by of all people Beck! When Elfman found out that Hess was going to use some cues from Beck's score as well as Elfman's, he immediately wanted his name off the credits and it was Richard Kraft who convinced him not to and came up with a compromise and if you look at the fim's' End Credits, you'll see a track by track listing of what cues of Elfman's were featured in the film along side Beck's. At least this is the story I remember, but Elfman did write a full score for it and it was one of the scores I was eagerly awaiting that year. Only Kraft can actually confirm more of the behind the scenes stuff that we probably don't know about.

If there was another MFADT Volume, Nacho Libre would be one he probably wouldn't put on it considering his experience on the film. Then again he had a problem on Anywhere But Here, but since he's scored Taking Woodstock for Ang Lee, looks like they've mended fences. After all, it's been exactly ten years since he score ABH.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2009 - 4:09 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

And Proud Iza
http://www.fernfilms.org/


Ah yeah, PROUD IZA. For the longest time, I took this to be an imdb glitch (there are many things credited with original Elfman music there that has no original Elfman music whatsoever!). It just seemed weird that he would be a NARRATOR in addition to having the music. But now that I see the cover, it looks to be very real?:



Ryan, perhaps you could confirm? What is this, a friend favour or something?

 
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