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 Posted:   Aug 9, 2009 - 1:28 PM   
 By:   Luke1981   (Member)

... aka Storia Di Una Monaca Di Clausura

I have this gorgeous score on the Digitmovies release (coupled with Monache di Sant'Arcangelo) and have recently seen that there is also a Japanese release of this score on the Avanz label. It runs about sixty minutes and my question is, does this release actually contain more music than the Digitmovies CD? In the liner notes to that CD they say that Digitmovies collaborated with Piccioni and that Storia Di Una Monaca Di Clausura actually reused tracks from Monache di Sant'Arcangelo, so that's why on the Digitmovies CD there are only nine tracks dedicated to that score. Besides that, does the Avanz release have the same great sound as the one from Digitmovies?

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 10, 2009 - 3:30 AM   
 By:   David Anthony   (Member)

Hi Luke

Storia Di Una Monaca Di Clausura on Avanz does indeed include quite alot of additional music from the score than appears on the Digitmovies CD. The music is mostly variations of these themes from the MONACHE .... score, but overall in a more modern upbeat tempo rather than the classical nature of the MONACHE .... score.
If you love this music then the release is a must have, but I would not say the sound quality of STORIA.... is an improvement (it was fairly good on the Digit CD but some of the tracks on MONACHE... are mono I seem to recall).

Shame that more people are not aware of this superb Piccioni score. It reflects that he wrote some great symphonic scores as well as his more well known pop/jazz scores.

Dave

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 10, 2009 - 2:14 PM   
 By:   Dorian   (Member)

I have both the Digitmovies and the Avanz CDs but I almost always play the Avanz simply because it's longer and yes, the music is wonderful. As Dave said, many of the tracks are variations on the themes but for me there are enough ideas to sit through the CD for an hour.

There's also a great chilling a cappella choral track somewhere in the middle of the programme.

 
 Posted:   Aug 10, 2009 - 2:27 PM   
 By:   drivingmissdaisy   (Member)

I read the title to this too quick..
I thought it said Diary of a Closted Man, sorry, but I found it funny.

 
 Posted:   Aug 10, 2009 - 2:53 PM   
 By:   wayoutwest   (Member)

... aka Storia Di Una Monaca Di Clausura

I have this gorgeous score on the Digitmovies release (coupled with Monache di Sant'Arcangelo) and have recently seen that there is also a Japanese release of this score on the Avanz label. It runs about sixty minutes and my question is, does this release actually contain more music than the Digitmovies CD? In the liner notes to that CD they say that Digitmovies collaborated with Piccioni and that Storia Di Una Monaca Di Clausura actually reused tracks from Monache di Sant'Arcangelo, so that's why on the Digitmovies CD there are only nine tracks dedicated to that score. Besides that, does the Avanz release have the same great sound as the one from Digitmovies?


Have been wondering the same thing myself for some time also love this score,Piccioni is one of my favorite composers have been slowly picking off all his scores smile

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 14, 2017 - 1:57 PM   
 By:   mikael488   (Member)

I just watched this movie and I noticed there are a number of cues that are not available on the digitmovies CD. I know that several tracks in the film were originally written for Le Monache Di Sant'Arcangelo, but there are still some tracks (for example a couple of solo organ pieces) that are missing the digitmovies CD. Does anyone know if the rare Avanz CD contains those missing pieces?

https://www.discogs.com/Piero-Piccioni-Storia-Di-Una-Monaca-Di-Clausura/release/10204253

 
 Posted:   Sep 14, 2017 - 11:25 PM   
 By:   wayoutwest   (Member)

Mikael The Avanz cd does have extra tracks and it is a magnificent listen one of the best expanded scores I have ever bought you will never listen to the shorter Digit version again after you hear the Avanz cd.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 15, 2017 - 6:08 AM   
 By:   mikael488   (Member)

Thanks,

Can you please check if any of the following (missing) pieces are available on the Avanz CD:

1. 22:25-24:14 - slow piece for solo organ
2. 24:14-26:00 - baroque sounding piece
3. 31:17-32:16 - small string ensemble
4. 33:10-34:55 - slow solemn piece for organ
5. 35:56-36:57 - haunting piece of music featuring female voice & organ.
6. 42:12-43:55 (probably cut) - lovely piece for harpsichord & piano
7. 46:12-48:10 - similar to (5) but longer and with big organ chords in the last part.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2CAlC-MgxI

Thanks in advance

regards,
Mikael

 
 Posted:   Sep 15, 2017 - 8:48 AM   
 By:   wayoutwest   (Member)

Hi Mikael I have listened to those YouTube clips and I'm fairly certain I've heard 2,3 and 6 before, sorry I don't really have time to do a complete compare to the cd at the moment.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 15, 2017 - 9:14 AM   
 By:   mikael488   (Member)

Okay, thanks.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 15, 2017 - 9:37 AM   
 By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)

Hello Mikael,

I also have the Avanz CD and can help you.
None of the solo organ pieces you are looking for are on the Avanz CD.
From your list only this music appears on that CD:
6. 42:12-43:55 (probably cut) - lovely piece for harpsichord & piano

This is track 10 "Moderato malinconico" on the Avanz CD with a duration of 2:25 minutes.

Track 14 "Misterioso triste" (1:53 minutes) on Avanz is close to, but not quite the same music as your number 3:

3. 31:17-32:16 - small string ensemble

Then we have number 2:

2. 24:14-26:00 - baroque sounding piece

This music is also not on the Avanz CD, but this is track 6 on the Saimel CD of Piccioni´s 1979 score IL MALATO IMMAGINARIO. I suppose this music was composed much earlier in 1972 or 1973 as another version of it already crops up in Piccioni´s L´EVASIONE DI CASANOVA from 1972. You will find this short version - which is slightly different - on the Saimel CD with BENVENUTO CELLINI/EVASIONE DI CASANOVA (there it is track 20 with 1:05 minutes).

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 15, 2017 - 10:13 AM   
 By:   mikael488   (Member)

Thank you very much for the detailed info Stefan,

Hmmm...it probably means that the missing organ pieces are from some other Piccioni score (possibly from the early '70s?), I just wish I knew which one since I love the organ (especially the church pipe organ as used in these tracks).

Anyone familiar enough with Piccioni's work who's able to identify the organ pieces ?

regards,
Mikael

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 16, 2017 - 4:05 AM   
 By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)


Then we have number 2:

2. 24:14-26:00 - baroque sounding piece
This music is also not on the Avanz CD, but this is track 6 on the Saimel CD of Piccioni´s 1979 score IL MALATO IMMAGINARIO. I suppose this music was composed much earlier in 1972 or 1973 as another version of it already crops up in Piccioni´s L´EVASIONE DI CASANOVA from 1972..


I have listened to my CDR with the master tape copy of L´EVASIONE DI CASANOVA once again and there the complete track with more than two minutes which later then also appeared on the MALATO IMMAGINARIO album can indeed be heard. Saimel probably didn´t use this track as it was already on their MALATO CD. But in fact this means that this music had certainly been composed in 1972 for the EVASIONE DI CASANOVA TV movie.

I have checked a lot of other Piccioni scores from the early 70s, but those organ pieces in STORIA DI UNA MONACA DI CLAUSURA do not appear anywhere. Above all those two pieces with female voice (number 5 and 7 in your list) have that distinctive sound of MONACHE DI SANT´ARCANGELO or STORIA DI UNA MONACA DI CLAUSURA. Therefore I really don´t think that they come from another Piccioni score of that time. It could be that these pieces could either not be found on the master tapes anymore or that they were just not used for the Avanz CD.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 16, 2017 - 7:09 AM   
 By:   mikael488   (Member)

Thanks for the additional info Stefan :-)

I do believe you're right in that the missing organ pieces belong to either Monache di Sant'arcangelo or Storia di una monaca. I haven't seen the first movie so it's difficult to say which film they were composed for. Anyway, it's a pity that they aren't available anywhere because I like those pieces a lot.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 16, 2017 - 8:08 AM   
 By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)

Yes, at least your number 1 organ piece can already be heard - in an even longer version - in the MONACHE DI SANT´ARCANGELO movie from minute 31:30 till 33:00.
Here you can view the complete MONACHE film in German language:
https://ok.ru/video/11433739772

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 16, 2017 - 9:41 AM   
 By:   mikael488   (Member)

Yes indeed, you are right again! thanks for posting the movie.

Btw, I noticed there's yet another unreleased organ piece at the end of the movie.

It doesn't seem that the other 3 tracks with organ appear in this film though, so those may have been composed for Storia di una monaca clausura.

All these tracks with church pipe organ were presumably recorded at the 3-manual Mascioni 50-stop organ in the church above the Forum studios. Maestro Piccioni himself seems to have played the organ (including electric/electronic organ) on several of his own scores, but in this case I suspect the organist was Giorgio Carnini, he was usually the performer on this organ and he worked for Piccioni too.

 
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