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 Posted:   Aug 29, 2009 - 8:06 PM   
 By:   sdtom   (Member)

I am normally not a big fan of the horror genre at all. However when Chris does something it at least deserves attention and I was quite pleased with this score.
Thomas
http://sdtom.wordpress.com/2009/08/30/drag-me-to-hellchristopher-young/

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 30, 2009 - 5:46 PM   
 By:   sdtom   (Member)

I'm wondering if anyone who saw this film would care to comment on it.
Thomas

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 30, 2009 - 5:52 PM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

I'm wondering if anyone who saw this film would care to comment on it.
Thomas



I did see the film, the score works great within it.


As too the film, I wanted to like it..

I really did.

But the lead character does something after being cursed that just so upset and pissed me off with her that I turned on it her and felt she deserved to be dragged to hell.....

Maybe it's just me, but it was just MAJOR MISTAKE in my view on the director's part that I know turn alot of folks against her.


Watch the movie and you'll understand.



Ford A. Thaxton

 
 Posted:   Aug 30, 2009 - 8:31 PM   
 By:   dogplant   (Member)

But the lead character does something after being cursed that just so upset and pissed me off with her that I turned on it her and felt she desered to be dragged to hell.....

Ford, I know exactly what you mean, and while the movie was unspooling I hated Raimi for doing that thing; but by the end I, like you, wanted to see the perpetrator of this callous act seriously burned, and I whooped it up when he delivered.

For me, Sam Raimi is one of the few filmmakers working in the horror genre today that gets it as far as the potential for the medium is concerned. When it's at its best, the classic horror film flies fiction and fantasy in the face of mortality, and it challenges the morality (or immorality) behind it. David Cronenberg gets it, too, in a more cerebral way; Roman Polanski does a pretty mean job too, I think, in connecting with the psychology of horror because he has survived some pretty devastating horrors in his personal life. And I've also felt that Guillermo del Toro gets it and delivers the goods with mythic potential. Many other filmmakers splashing gore around today are, I feel, empty headed fools wasting my time. I have a love-hate relationship with the horror genre, but "Drag Me To Hell", for me, was a love fest.

Nice review of the score, sdtom. I'm guessing that you are not a fan of the current mainstream Hostel/Saw/remake bilge that passes for horror, and I don't blame you. But while Raimi has made some extreme horror offerings, with his "Evil Dead" trilogy, I think he has matured, and he has gone out of his way to explore the genre in films like "The Gift" (not my favorite, but an interesting ESP thriller) and "A Simple Plan" (a pretty effective visceral thriller). "Drag Me To Hell" surfs the edge of "Evil Dead" carnage, as you may have gleaned from Christopher Young's rollercoaster score, but it reminded me of "Night of the Demon" with a twist, if you are familiar with that brilliantly creepy 1957 Jacques Tourneur movie, based on "Casting the Runes" by M.R. James.

 
 Posted:   Aug 30, 2009 - 8:35 PM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

But the lead character does something after being cursed that just so upset and pissed me off with her that I turned on it her and felt she desered to be dragged to hell.....

Ford, I know exactly what you mean, and while the movie was unspooling I hated Raimi for doing that thing; but by the end I, like you, wanted to see the perpetrator of this callous act seriously burned, but unlike you I whooped it up when he delivered.


Oh good lord...butcher a thousand people, and the audience will whoop it up, but kill a cute widdle kitty cat, and out come the torches and pitchforks. roll eyes People have some seriously skewed reactions to horror movies...

 
 Posted:   Aug 30, 2009 - 8:38 PM   
 By:   dogplant   (Member)

Oh good lord...

Mr. Jack, I make no apology for my skewed reaction!

That bitch had it coming smile

 
 Posted:   Aug 30, 2009 - 8:47 PM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

Oh good lord...butcher a thousand people, and the audience will whoop it up, but kill a cute widdle kitty cat, and out come the torches and pitchforks. roll eyes People have some seriously skewed reactions to horror movies...

Sorry - but if thats what she did, then whatever hot corner of the Hells beneath Hell she was dragged to are not nearly dark enough.

I also agree that Roman Polanski knows horror better than most. The Ninth Gate is one of the most sublime (if seriously ego-centric) horror films I've seen in recent years. Disagree about Del Toro though, who seems to just stick his movies with some pretty production design, like Tim Burton.

 
 Posted:   Aug 30, 2009 - 8:48 PM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

Oh good lord...

Mr. Jack, I make no apology for my skewed reaction!

That bitch had it coming smile


I'm sorry, but if I had a choice between rotting in hell for all eternity and offing a cat, I'd be grabbing for a butcher knife but quick. And I like cats!

I just find it funny and kind of disturbing how audiences are primed to mindlessly cheer like slavering mutants at all of the "awesome kills" in crap like the Saw, Hostel and Final Destination movies, but we have to show a dog outrunning surefire incineration by a giant fireball in Independance Day (while all the humans get roasted immidiately behind him) or else that's going too far! I'm not advocating violence against animals, but honestly...it's a frigging movie. The kitty in question is likely sipping from a bowl of cream as I type this.

Lighten up, Francis.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 30, 2009 - 8:50 PM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)


Oh good lord...butcher a thousand people, and the audience will whoop it up, but kill a cute widdle kitty cat, and out come the torches and pitchforks.


Damned right.....


BURN IN HELL YOU BITCH....

You deserve it....


(Guess what what I have two of at home)


Ford A. Thaxton

 
 Posted:   Aug 30, 2009 - 8:54 PM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

IT'S.

A.

MOVIE.

Fuck...

 
 Posted:   Aug 30, 2009 - 8:57 PM   
 By:   dogplant   (Member)

Don't call me 'Francis' ('Shirley' is fine). Point taken, Mr. Jack.

LeHah, I decided I liked del Toro after "Pan's Labyrinth" -- and that took a second viewing for it to click with me.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 30, 2009 - 9:07 PM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

IT'S.

A.

MOVIE.

Fuck...



So was OLD YELLER....

I can't watch that movie (but for very different reasons)...


FRACKING GET IT?

 
 Posted:   Aug 30, 2009 - 9:16 PM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)


So was OLD YELLER....

I can't watch that movie (but for very different reasons)...


FRACKING GET IT?


But that film was a tearjerker, wheras the cat in question in DMTH is used for no other purpose but as a sight gag ("Here, kitty-kitty-kitty..."). My audience laughed at that scene, and it was intentional. Does that make everyone who watched that scene into someone who hates animals and wants to see them killed in real life? Of COURSE not. I can laugh at a death scene featuring a Human Being in a movie if that's the intention, because I know that the actor will just wipe off the Karo-syrup blood after the scene is shot and go chill in his trailer. The same thing with a rubber prop molded in the shape of an animal. Did you storm out of the theater during the "exploding cow" scene in Three Kings? Oh, that's right, no one cares if it's not a "cute" household pet getting offed. roll eyes They could make a movie with spiders or scorpions or other "icky" animals getting snuffed left and right, and everyone would be like "Yeah, fuck 'em!"

Crazy world...

 
 Posted:   Aug 30, 2009 - 9:27 PM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

LeHah, I decided I liked del Toro after "Pan's Labyrinth" -- and that took a second viewing for it to click with me.

Yeah, I get that Del Toro is very popular but to someone like me, he's just a one-trick pony. Its the same reason that I haven't liked a Burton movie since Ed Wood (though Big Fish had its moments)

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2009 - 1:27 AM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2009 - 8:25 AM   
 By:   ryankeaveney   (Member)

Sam has stated that he wanted the audience to question the morality of the lead character. She essentially finds herself in her situation because of her selfish choice (a promotion at work). It's therefore not a surprise that she does whatever she can to lift the curse. Is it such a shocking and unique concept for modern audiences that a female lead has an ambiguous sense of right and wrong when every male lead character in film today is the anti-hero? And this is coming from a guy who has to feed and clean-up after a fat little cat!

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2009 - 8:54 AM   
 By:   sdtom   (Member)

I'm curious enough now to want to see it. Either way I did enjoy the score from Chris.

 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2009 - 2:15 PM   
 By:   Jon A. Bell   (Member)

Sam has stated that he wanted the audience to question the morality of the lead character. She essentially finds herself in her situation because of her selfish choice (a promotion at work). It's therefore not a surprise that she does whatever she can to lift the curse. Is it such a shocking and unique concept for modern audiences that a female lead has an ambiguous sense of right and wrong when every male lead character in film today is the anti-hero? And this is coming from a guy who has to feed and clean-up after a fat little cat!

I may be wrong, but I think Alfred Hitchcock said that if you have a character in a film kill an animal, it won't turn audiences against that character -- it'll turn them against the film itself.

I liked "Drag Me to Hell," but I agree that the scene in question, played for nervous laughs -- and then followed through to a largely-unseen but ugly conclusion -- actively harmed the film. Overall it's a well-made horror film that's scary, gross and funny, but it should've been much more successful this summer than it was.

(What would've been really shocking would've been to have had the girl pass the curse on to her boyfriend halfway through the film because of this bad choice, and have her get killed and dragged down at the midway point, so the rest of the film would've been about him. That would've really freaked out audiences, and probably made the film bomb even harder, but it would've been a ballsy move.)

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2009 - 2:27 PM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

I'd really like to see what some of the people posting here would actually do themselves, if they were placed in a similar situation, in a choice between their lives and a pets.

 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2009 - 5:10 PM   
 By:   Jon A. Bell   (Member)

I'd really like to see what some of the people posting here would actually do themselves, if they were placed in a similar situation, in a choice between their lives and a pets.

Well, this is pretty silly, but if it were me, in a similar situation (being threatened by demonic forces that I don't believe in, attempting to drag me to a place I also don't believe exists, and being told by *one* person with non-existent "psychic" powers that I "might" be able to get rid of a "curse" -- another concept I don't believe in -- by sacrificing my pet) -- nope, I wouldn't kill my cat.

If anything, I'd introduce the demon to my cat, who would proceed to kick the demon's ass. ;-)

 
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