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LOG IN Forgot Login? Register General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board Search Terms:  Search Within:  topics posts since 2019 2018 posts 2017 posts 2016 posts 2015 posts 2014 posts 2013 posts 2012 posts 2011 posts 2010 posts 2009 posts 2008 posts 2007 posts 2006 posts 2005 posts 2004 posts 2003 posts 2002 posts 2001 posts 2000 posts users  search tips  You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2 3      General Discussion: FSM Blog Post: Early FSM CDs—Low Quantities     1 2 3    NEXT   LAST   Last Post  This is a comments thread about Blog Post: Early FSM CDs—Low Quantities by Lukas Kendall    Posted:   Sep 9, 2009 - 11:24 PM     By:   peterproud   (Member) How can LOGAN'S RUN not be on that list!?!?!? Don't get me wrong, I want everybody on the planet to get their copy but it's flabbergasting that this one is still around...    Posted:   Sep 9, 2009 - 11:29 PM     By:   peterproud   (Member) ....so flabbergasting that I forgot that I already started a thread about this... ...sorry bout that. http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=59683&forumID=1&archive=0    Posted:   Sep 9, 2009 - 11:50 PM     By:   crogrr   (Member) Lukas - as always thank you so very much for your honesty about these issues. I feel so very grateful that I have been able to order and have all of the above that I have wanted!! (I confess - I think it's every one of the above....) Never Mind....    Posted:   Sep 10, 2009 - 4:05 AM     By:   CinemaScope   (Member) Wow, 200 Prince Valiant - 380 The Comancheros, after all these years. I would have thought they would have gone in a couple of months! I don't understand this market at all.    Posted:   Sep 10, 2009 - 4:14 AM     By:   Miragliano   (Member) Wow, 200 Prince Valiant - 380 The Comancheros, after all these years. I would have thought they would have gone in a couple of months! I don't understand this market at all. I find it quite easy to understand. Most score fans who have gotten into film music in the past 20-30 years have never heard of these films or scores and probably don't have tastes that run to the type of scores they are. We're already a niche group, my guess is those scores appeal to a niche within the niche. Logan's Run is more recent but when I think of the film, I don't normally think of the score in the same way that I associate Star Wars with it's score, or Jaws etc. I may be opening myself to a torrent of attacks but I don't think the Logan's Run score is actually all that memorable. And I own it! It just doesn't have the great themes or melodies that make for a good listen that you want to replay often.    Posted:   Sep 10, 2009 - 4:48 AM     By:   CinemaScope   (Member) Wow, 200 Prince Valiant - 380 The Comancheros, after all these years. I would have thought they would have gone in a couple of months! I don't understand this market at all. I find it quite easy to understand. Most score fans who have gotten into film music in the past 20-30 years have never heard of these films or scores and probably don't have tastes that run to the type of scores they are. We're already a niche group, my guess is those scores appeal to a niche within the niche. Logan's Run is more recent but when I think of the film, I don't normally think of the score in the same way that I associate Star Wars with it's score, or Jaws etc. I may be opening myself to a torrent of attacks but I don't think the Logan's Run score is actually all that memorable. And I own it! It just doesn't have the great themes or melodies that make for a good listen that you want to replay often. Yes I'm sure that's it. Maybe Spartacus (if it's ever released) won't sell out as fast as people imagine, as it's an ancient film to many soundtrack fans (& Alex North, not a big seller). Oh for the days when FSM released titles like these & The Egyptian/Beneath The 12 Mile Reef/Knights Of The Round Table/The Towering Inferno, every month! I have to admit to not buying many of the latest offerings.    Posted:   Sep 10, 2009 - 5:30 AM     By:   Jehannum   (Member) Comancheros is more than 'good'. More like 'fantastic'.    Posted:   Sep 10, 2009 - 5:40 AM     By:   Jehannum   (Member) I may be opening myself to a torrent of attacks but I don't think the Logan's Run score is actually all that memorable. And I own it! It just doesn't have the great themes or melodies that make for a good listen that you want to replay often. Well, when you say "you" bear in mind you mean ... YOU! I don't always want great themes and melodies, although I think Logan's Run has its share of those. The complexity of something like Logan's Run beats catchy themes for me. That's why listening to it was enhanced so much when the complete soundtrack came out. The old Chapter III didn't do it for me but the FSM full presentation plays to the score's strengths, the arc of the music, the details of the variations and orchestrations of the themes. I'm not so dogmatic as to say complete presentation would be best for all score but it is for this one.    Posted:   Sep 10, 2009 - 6:01 AM     By:   Thor   (Member) I may be opening myself to a torrent of attacks but I don't think the Logan's Run score is actually all that memorable. And I own it! It just doesn't have the great themes or melodies that make for a good listen that you want to replay often. Well, when you say "you" bear in mind you mean ... YOU! I don't always want great themes and melodies, although I think Logan's Run has its share of those. The complexity of something like Logan's Run beats catchy themes for me. That's why listening to it was enhanced so much when the complete soundtrack came out. The old Chapter III didn't do it for me but the FSM full presentation plays to the score's strengths, the arc of the music, the details of the variations and orchestrations of the themes. I'm not so dogmatic as to say complete presentation would be best for all score but it is for this one. Funny story with LOGAN'S RUN. First I had the Chapter III release and was relatively pleased with that (not my favourite Goldsmith in the first place). Then I sold that, and acquired the FSM. That was - unsurprisingly - an abysmal listening experience; pure torture in parts. So I sold that. Now I have no LOGAN CD's and that may be just as well. What's the moral of this story? I have no idea.    Posted:   Sep 10, 2009 - 6:28 AM     By:   CinemaScope   (Member) Comancheros is more than 'good'. More like 'fantastic'. No one here has said The Comancheros is "good", agreed it's not good, it's brilliant, my favorite Bernstein score (& a very enjoyable western movie too!). When I read of its release in the magazine I couldn't get my cheque off quick enough (those were the days). I was sure it would sell out real fast. I must be so out of touch with most of the people on this board.    Posted:   Sep 10, 2009 - 6:37 AM     By:   Miragliano   (Member) I may be opening myself to a torrent of attacks but I don't think the Logan's Run score is actually all that memorable. And I own it! It just doesn't have the great themes or melodies that make for a good listen that you want to replay often. Well, when you say "you" bear in mind you mean ... YOU! I don't always want great themes and melodies, although I think Logan's Run has its share of those. The complexity of something like Logan's Run beats catchy themes for me. That's why listening to it was enhanced so much when the complete soundtrack came out. The old Chapter III didn't do it for me but the FSM full presentation plays to the score's strengths, the arc of the music, the details of the variations and orchestrations of the themes Well, i'm talking about my own tastes here. Each to their own. I appreciate there are some scores that require more effort to appreciate but frankly, i'll take catchy themes and melody any day. That's why i'm cautious around Goldsmith's scores but i'll happily buy Barry's scores or early Horner without hesitation. I want music where I can just close my eyes and be swept away. Complexity doesn't work for me. Funny story with LOGAN'S RUN. First I had the Chapter III release and was relatively pleased with that (not my favourite Goldsmith in the first place). Then I sold that, and acquired the FSM. That was - unsurprisingly - an abysmal listening experience; pure torture in parts. So I sold that. Now I have no LOGAN CD's and that may be just as well. That was exactly my listening experience although I still own the FSM CD.    Posted:   Sep 10, 2009 - 7:27 AM     By:   TerraEpon   (Member) Wow, 200 Prince Valiant - 380 The Comancheros, after all these years. I would have thought they would have gone in a couple of months! I don't understand this market at all. One thing to consider is that when they were released, there were no eBay sellers who snatched up a bunch of copies. Once those sellers came around, they didn't care about the older stuff, only what's just released. That's really the only reason a 3000 seller can sell out as fast as Baby did. If Logan's Run were released now, it certainly wouldn't last as long as it has, though these two are old, as others said, so a lot of people who'll buy the 70s and 80s stuff just don't care, and there are far less 1950s-geared fans to make up for it.    Posted:   Sep 10, 2009 - 11:29 AM     By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member) Funny story with LOGAN'S RUN. Just not "ha-ha" funny.    Posted:   Sep 10, 2009 - 11:29 AM     By:   Thor   (Member) Funny story with LOGAN'S RUN. Just not "ha-ha" funny. LOL! No, not that.    Posted:   Sep 10, 2009 - 4:45 PM     By:   captain X   (Member) Patience is a virtue? I don't know if this is appropriate but I'm happy that these titles are FINALLY selling out. A looong time though for such great music. In any case, I have all of these that are low stock (and worth the money spent!!!) minus the Bernstein box (unfortunately). I really want this box set but financially speaking... I put off buying it. It would be an incentive though if there was some sort of a sales promotion for this one. Something like buy 5 FSM titles and get the Bernstein box at a 20% discount, buy 10 FSM titles and get it at a 40% discount and so on... or the reverse. Get the BB box and get 5 FSM titles at half price or whatever. And don't be stingy with discounts! I think the best thing in regards to FSM discounted titles was that 50% Amazon summer sale last year. Those who could have ordered from Amazon... were veeery lucky lads. It should have been done at SAE's own website for everyone to order and not from Amazon's website. P.S. And one more thing concerning this LOGUN'S RUN score... it is a great, avant garde Goldsmith score. FSM has done a remarkable job. Another favorite title that seems to be still around is that FSM COMA release together with that great Roy Budd score and the WESTWORLD score. What a threesome and what awesome scores these are. An orgy of a listening festivity. Jerry hit the nail smash on with COMA. I cannot imagine this film without Jerry's music. A favorite Goldsmith score and a favorite film as well.    Posted:   Sep 10, 2009 - 6:01 PM     By:   jbt9955   (Member) Just had to add my 2 cents -- Concerning The Comancheros by Elmer Bernstein and Prince Valiant by Franz Waxman: These are both outstanding scores (Valiant is probably my favorite Waxman score). Take a friendly tip from someone who sells movie score CDs for a living: Buy these now $! . . . or buy these from me later! $$$! Regardless of what you pay for them, these are among the cream of the crop. Brad Taylor (jbt9955@aol.com)    Posted:   Sep 11, 2009 - 3:15 AM     By:   Jehannum   (Member) Funny story with LOGAN'S RUN. First I had the Chapter III release and was relatively pleased with that (not my favourite Goldsmith in the first place). Then I sold that, and acquired the FSM. That was - unsurprisingly - an abysmal listening experience; pure torture in parts. So I sold that. Now I have no LOGAN CD's and that may be just as well. What's the moral of this story? I have no idea. I doubt whether the story has any moral. You responded exactly how I and everyone else expected you to respond (even as I was typing my post) just as you always do. The point I was making is that I wouldn't use my experience of preferring the longer Logan's Run to construct dogma to justify why all soundtracks should be complete.    Posted:   Sep 11, 2009 - 3:15 AM     By:   Jehannum   (Member) Comancheros is more than 'good'. More like 'fantastic'. No one here has said The Comancheros is "good", See OP.    Posted:   Sep 11, 2009 - 3:26 AM     By:   Thor   (Member) I doubt whether the story has any moral. You responded exactly how I and everyone else expected you to respond (even as I was typing my post) just as you always do. The point I was making is that I wouldn't use my experience of preferring the longer Logan's Run to construct dogma to justify why all soundtracks should be complete. You should have. I've yet to hear someone properly justify why any given soundtrack should be C&C out of purely musical reasons (and not filmical).    Posted:   Sep 11, 2009 - 3:35 AM     By:   Miragliano   (Member) You should have. I've yet to hear someone properly justify why any given soundtrack should be C&C out of purely musical reasons (and not filmical). O.K., what does C&C mean? I'm guessing one of those is 'Complete' but I can't guess the other. I happen to agree with Thor on complete, expanded soundtracks. The ONLY justification for them appears to be that fans want every note composed for a film and in sequential order. That rarely makes for a good listening experience in my mind. Even the expanded Star Trek II CD sounds better to my ears if I programme the cues in a particular order and leave some out. In the worst case scenario you end up with something like the complete Phantom Menace which was appalling. There were cues in Logan's Run which I enjoyed but, like Thor, I found chunks of the score unpleasant to listen to. Had me running back to John Barry in no time for soothing melodic therapy. Avant Garde you can keep, preferably in a sound proof room.     General Discussion: FSM Blog Post: Early FSM CDs—Low Quantities    < 1 2 3  > >>  Go to page:  1 2 3   First Post    General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2 3

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