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 Posted:   Sep 22, 2009 - 7:05 PM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

Wonder if anyone will ever release the score tracks to the Al Pacino SCARFACE.

The original album featured mainly the disco songs and just two score themes, if I remember correctly.

I really like a lot of Moroder's score itself. It really went with the picture well. Nice pulsating action and ethnic sounds made it very enjoyable in the film.

So glad this was one Pacino film that Dave Grusin sat out.

But then again a Grusin scored SCARFACE might have been very interesting. Just as long as he stayed away from his bouncy TOOTSIE style he gave Pacino's AUTHOR! AUTHOR!.


Maybe one day a SCARFACE score release? I would grab it.

Please share your thoughts on Moroder's score and if you would be inclined to order it.

Zoob

 
 Posted:   Sep 22, 2009 - 7:11 PM   
 By:   David Sones (Allardyce)   (Member)

I would order this in record time. The main theme is an '80s classic. The music for the teaser trailer (which I think is part of the end credits theme) is particularly satisfying (a really cool trailer of animated drawings set to music that was left off the latest DVD incarnation but is available on the previous edition).

I'm actually surprised that a score album hasn't yet been released.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 22, 2009 - 7:22 PM   
 By:   cushinglee   (Member)

One of the most admirable things Brian De Palma ever did was refuse to allow Universal to chuck Giorgio's score for a hip hop one when the picture was re-issued a few years ago, standing by the integrity of what his composer had done. Cheesy 80s it is but it's right for the picture.

 
 Posted:   Sep 22, 2009 - 7:28 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

I would cut someone in half with a chainsaw for this score.....

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2009 - 2:04 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Great score. I'd love to buy a score-only release of this, even though the existing soundtrack is pretty cool.

Here's my earlier Cinema Club entry on film and score:

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=8170&forumID=1&archive=1

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2009 - 2:41 AM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

Loved the cue where Pacino and the bomb guy are following the guy with his family in the car and are going to blow it up.

But the humanity of Tony Montana doesn't want to kill the kids. He always said he never killed anyone who didn't have it coming.


Great tension building music there and great scene.

 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2009 - 1:18 PM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

Agree with Thor, would surely buy a score album, but the original soundtrack is good too - and I haven't even got that one, only the 2 score cuts.

 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2009 - 2:15 PM   
 By:   David Sones (Allardyce)   (Member)

Agree with Thor, would surely buy a score album, but the original soundtrack is good too - and I haven't even got that one, only the 2 score cuts.

Which score cuts are on that album? Are they tracks as heard in the film, or altered? I recall one of them being listed as Theme from Scarface or something like that, but that could be any one of several versions in the film...

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2009 - 5:04 PM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

Here is what's on the album:



1. Scarface (Push It to the Limit) - Pete Bellotte, Paul Engemann, Giorgio Moroder
2. Rush Rush - Debbie Harry, Giorgio Moroder
3. Turn Out the Light - Pete Bellotte, Amy Holland, Giorgio Moroder
4. Vamos a Bailar - Giorgio Moroder
5. Tony's Theme - Giorgio Moroder
6. She's on Fire - Pete Bellotte, Amy Holland, Giorgio Moroder
7. Shake It Up - Arthur Barrow, Giorgio Moroder
8. Dance, Dance, Dance - Beth Andersen, Arthur Barrow, Giorgio Moroder
9. I'm Hot Tonight - Arthur Barrow, Giorgio Moroder
10. Gina's and Elvira's Theme - Giorgio

The score themes listed #5 & #10, I think may have been re-recordings and not original film tracks. I may be wrong.

Zoob

 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2009 - 5:18 PM   
 By:   David Sones (Allardyce)   (Member)

So no main or end title, eh? Bummer.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2009 - 5:30 PM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

So no main or end title, eh? Bummer.


I remember the End Title was great! Don't remember there being much of a Main Title.

Definitely my favorite Giorgio Moroder score.


And the song PUSH IT TO THE LIMIT worked so well in the Montage it was used for in the film. Images of Pacino and his boys and that money counting machine, the tiger, Michelle Pheiffer kissing Pacino at the wedding. Was all awesome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8g__x6ExM8&feature=related

I gotta watch this movie again!


VAMOS A BAILAR sung by Maria Conchita

Is that the actress Maria Conchita Alonso?

I love it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9Iv3xnvlls

Must be the same Conchita. Here is some Latin Passion from Maria Conchita Alonso:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcjSjA9jKrQ&feature=related

 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2009 - 5:36 PM   
 By:   David Sones (Allardyce)   (Member)

So no main or end title, eh? Bummer.

I remember the End Title was great! Don't remember there being much of a Main Title.

Definitely my favorite Giorgio Moroder score.


The opening title was the first version of the main theme, and it was pretty hip with a heavy beat, whereas the end title version has more of an epic sound, particularly when the voices come in (which was also in the trailer music).

 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2009 - 7:29 PM   
 By:   MRAUDIO   (Member)

I would love to see this score get a complete release - great 80's Moroder score. Perhaps with the Universal vaults finally cracked, we will see (and hear) such a release...:-)

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2009 - 1:40 AM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

How Rappers can ruin great songs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltwPrp6XSpw&feature=fvw




The original song with montage:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfpK76msT0w&feature=related


No comparison. No Mickey mouse Rap Rhymes where you can't even understand what the singer is saying.

I wish these "Gangsta" Rappers would at least learn how to enunciate.



Here's the classic version as seen and heard in the movie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8g__x6ExM8&feature=related

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2009 - 1:56 AM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

How Rappers can ruin great songs:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltwPrp6XSpw&feature=fvw


Yeah that one s****, but this Scarface intro can be heard on what is considered to be one of the best hip hop albums of the 90's (produced by The RZA, you might know from Kill Bill & Ghost Dog):



Every rapper worships 2 movies: The Godfather & Scarface. It's a cliché but it's often not far from the truth if you go through their dvd collection wink. Chuck D of Public Enemy jokes about this often.

So if this score would get a release, I'm sure a lot of heads would get it and that only improves sales.

For me personally, I thought the movie was ok but certainly not a masterpiece and the score pretty unremarkable. But I do hope it get a release to please the Moroder fans. I did like his "The NeverEnding Story" as that was a childhood movie for me.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2009 - 2:17 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

And the song PUSH IT TO THE LIMIT worked so well in the Montage it was used for in the film. Images of Pacino and his boys and that money counting machine, the tiger, Michelle Pheiffer kissing Pacino at the wedding. Was all awesome.

Indeed. I've actually used that clip many times in my lectures on film music, how music is used in montages to bind time together and also connote something, in this case "yuppie" mentality or "living the high life". Perhaps alongside the training montage from ROCKY IV, it is one of the most quintessential 80's montages (parodied so wonderfully in TEAM AMERICA).

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2009 - 2:26 AM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

Why did Gina and Elvira have to share a theme?

Was there only enough budget for Moroder to write one theme for these two major characters?

Or, is it Two Themes in one, with the 2nd Theme starting at 3:05?

The Ginelvira Theme:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEugchJ0-sE

 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2009 - 2:56 AM   
 By:   The Cat   (Member)

My God, I didn't know there was such a demand for this score. Anyone want to know more about the chances of a release of the score tracks, feel free to contact me. smile

Simply put, for me this is one of the best pop/electronic scores there is. but both cues on the soundtrack are re-recordings and are NOT in the movie. Scarface has several recurring themes and Tony's Theme is employed in so many different disguises that you wouldn't be able to spot it all. Gina and Elvira have separate themes which are combined on the CD for one suite. You can tell them apart when heard separetely, but they do share similarities (as in Tony's two most important women). It's interesting to note that the music actually closes with a powerful rendition of Gina's Theme! There's just so much going on in this music that you don't even scratch the surface with the song compilation.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2009 - 3:11 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Still, no SCARFACE soundtrack would be fully representative WITHOUT those songs as well.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2009 - 3:23 AM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

Still, no SCARFACE soundtrack would be fully representative WITHOUT those songs as well.


Yes, I agree. I would love a Complete Score and Songs release of this, to be sure.

 
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