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 Posted:   Jul 20, 2001 - 2:23 AM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

This must be shared.

What an elderly character in a novel who is close to death realizes
about life:

“Some days music is the only thing that makes sense to me, the only
experience that confirms what I’ve never been able to articulate even
to my closet friends. I wonder if music is the only expression of the
soul that is not hopelessly compromised in communication. I think so.
In fact, I’m quite certain of it.

Damn. I should have been a musician. Better yet, a great musician
married to another great musician, and in the mornings we would
leave scores on each others’ pillows.

That would be love, or more precisely, the pure expression of love.

I remember sitting at the symphony in Boston in 1947 and feeling
as though I were partaking in a mass seance with the crowd, the
music filling in the tremendous gaps between us until it was possible
to travel from one to another as though walking on water. Alone
in public each of us shared the most intimate and ineffable feelings,
feelings that we also shared with Handel and Mozart and
Beethoven. It felt, momentarily, as if we were all holding hands
somewhere deep inside, bound at our strongest point. When the
music stopped, all hands let go. I walked quickly out of the concert
hall, desperate to avoid conversation.

Maybe what life needs is a good SOUNDTRACK, especially during
the long stretches when nothing interesting is being said. A soundtrack
might dignify things a bit, ennobling us with the proper drama and
tension and pathos.

I stroll the hallways, shoulders back, chin up, humming softly. ‘People
stop and stare, they don’t bother me, for there’s nowhere else on
earth that I would rather be...’

Andrew Lloyed Webber and Rodgers and Hammerstein and Leonard
Bernstein and Stephen Sondheim and Alan Jay Lerner and Frederick
Loewe and Jerry Herman and Maurice Jarre to the orchestra pit
now please, Patrick is on the march. Something inspirational,
electrifying even, if you would. Thank you kindly.

If life were cast to music, I fear we might all drown in our tears.”

P. 199-200 From the acclaimed novel LOSING JULIA
by Jonathan Hull

I wonder if Mr. Hull visits our boards? He should.

Patrick’s favorite soundtrack in the novel? At night in the nursing
home, he listens to EXODUS.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 20, 2001 - 2:33 AM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

I want go see Songcatcher for every reason you've expressed.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 21, 2001 - 7:23 AM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

PS
Not into reading fiction these days but your post makes getting Losing Julia irresistible. I'm at the library & will hunt; if worse comes to worse, a jag at Barnes & Noble will be in order. Lovely passage, Joan. Rather stunning.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 21, 2001 - 8:08 AM   
 By:   Luscious Lazlo   (Member)

"In the meantime, in his gloom, he listened to songs. He never quite knew whether his emotions gave character to the song, or the song to his emotions. If he had not heard The Zombies sing 'Tell Her No', would he have imagined some such miniature music drama anyway---or had The Zombies simply invented a new mode of feeling? After a while it seemed that every song---every *good* song---defined an emotion which did not exist outside that song. No song could ever substitute for another. There was only one 'Another Girl' or 'Pretty Flamingo' or 'Ooo, Baby Baby'. Ultimately there could be a list of thousands of isolated emotions, like a seed catalog."

[From DREAM TIME by Geoffrey O'Brien]

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 21, 2001 - 9:13 AM   
 By:   Momoschiin   (Member)

"Suzanne went back to her bedroom and put a casette in her stereo. She liked to listen to soundtracks in the morning. In the car she only liked rock 'n' roll, but soundtracks were house music. This morning she put on Somewhere in Time , which sounded like what she thought love was like. It sounded like longing. She listened to the music thoughtfully as she sipped her juice and walked bach into the bathroom. Her thoughts seemed more like poetry to her, and less like idle chatter, with this music on. She turned off the water and sat in the tub.
The score started to gnaw at Suzanne like a little as she bathed. It had been recommended to her by a musician she had gone out with once named Chester Pryce, whom she had liked but had never heard from again. She couldn't remember whether she had liked him before she never heard from him again or only afterward. In any case, he had told her about this music-he said he listened to it a lot-but he hadn't warned her that it sounded like feelings you had to be brave about. Suzanne imagined Chester listening to it in his car as he wistfully drove over a cliff."

From POSTCARDS FROM THE EDGE by Carrie Fisher

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 22, 2001 - 6:31 AM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

Howard, I liked the novel. It is a study in opposites..humor, tragedy, love,
loss, etc., and it’s about those existential defining moments. (In this case
World War I.) Several music references pepper the novel.

Those are wonderful quotations by L.L. and Momoschiin. Isn’t it amazing
how well film or I should say how accurately film music captures marrow
deep emotions that we feel but are often unable to articulate. Perhaps
music is the most PRECISE communication we have.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 22, 2001 - 1:35 AM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

On your sayso I have now sandwiched the first 150 pages of Losing Julia between my 3rd viewing of A.I. (yesterday) and Spellbound (today).

FOLLOWUP:
up to 230; somehow that section quoted in your post had an added power, 's hard to describe; you must be a good trailer maker http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/smile.gif">

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 Posted:   Jul 24, 2001 - 4:24 AM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

All done! Had a wonderful read, makes me want to pull out my video of the restored All Quite On The Western Front (no surprise, huh, what with the life-in-the-trenches-of-WW1 vs. life-in-the-trenches-of-a-nursing-home thing). Yes, I caught the soundtrack references; in fact, a couple of times a famous lyric literally appeared in a narrative sentiment. The scotch bottle was highly reminiscent of a M*A*S*H TV episode, and the scene in the school auditorium reminded me very much of a similar situation in Save The Tiger. Loved the way the author weaved in and out of the very past, nearer past & present, making it very easy to follow with excellent segues (seems to me he has good cinematic directorial instincts). But oh, the universal emotions he tapped into! This novel will probably make it to the screen, and dare I suggest the services of Mr. Barry might be in order? http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/smile.gif">


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 Posted:   Jul 24, 2001 - 7:11 AM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

Glad you enjoyed the book, Howard. Great insight in your remarks.
It is interesting and rather sad to read or see that authentic recognition
of the meaning of life is usually not recognized until one is so close to
death. Little tough to make changes by then.
.
While not similar in plot, the book reminds me a little of The
Green Mile. The main character in a retirement center also flashes back
to those pivotal events in life that will forever and irrevocably
transform and control a person’s future.

I think this novel will eventually be made into a movie. The brutality
of trench warfare, knee melting love, tragedy, passion, regret, laughter,
loss...great dramatic potential for a movie. Yes, Barry would do a fine
job with the war action scenes and of course, the great love story.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2001 - 9:15 AM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Not quite ready to let this topic go.
The scene in the memorial park at the end was truly moving. In a film version I could see them doing away with the whole business between Patrick & fellow passenger and instead have nothing but film with music right up to & including the moments he finally makes it to the park and then engages the young lady in conversation. And oh, the moment he says "Julia?" I could hear the "Julia/Love Theme" reemerge. I say reemerge because the characters of Patrick, Daniel & Julia should each have their own themes, with perhaps the Julia and Patrick themes running counterpoint to create a love theme in tandem. Damn, no question in my mind this one's a tailor-made old-fashioned Hollywood romancer requiring an old-fashioned lavish Hollywood score.

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 Posted:   Sep 7, 2005 - 8:59 PM   
 By:   SheriffJoe   (Member)

...and if given the chance, Howard, I would film it exactly that way...with a score to match!

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2005 - 1:32 AM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Wow. It's fun reading this thread again for several reasons, one being that it fits in overwhelmingly nicely in the current thread dealing with novels that mention film music. And I think it's neat of you to give it your own screenplay treatment. From such humble beginnings...who knows, Joe. May your ship come in {preferably real soon but just the same may it comesmile}!

 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2005 - 1:51 PM   
 By:   SheriffJoe   (Member)

Thank you, good sir. The tide is is as we speak and the ship I am boarded seems sturdy. There are several other good looking vessels in the harbor I can jump on should they provide a better opportunity, but, for now, I am content and will happily update you on any progress I make.

Joe

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 22, 2018 - 10:55 PM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

Yes, I know this is a very OLD topic. Seventeen years ago I quoted a “soundtrack” quotation from a fiction novel. Today I just finished a novel called BEFORE WE WERE YOURS by Lisa Wingate.

In 1939 a 12 year old girl is removed from a horrendous orphanage in Tennessee and adopted by decent parents. Her new father is a Hollywood film score composer, and she learns music from him. Near the end of her life she realizes something that I think is very relevant to all of us.

“Life is not unlike cinema. Each scene has its own music, and the music is created for the scene, woven to it in ways we do not understand. No matter how much we love the melody of a bygone day or imagine the song of a future one, we must dance within the music of today, or we will always be out of step, stumbling around in something that doesn’t suit the moment.”

Of course, she lets go of her past to live in the moment. (However, I still like Golden and Silver Age music and many bygone melodies, but I will keep an ear to current scores.)

 
 Posted:   Oct 22, 2018 - 11:56 PM   
 By:   Adventures of Jarre Jarre   (Member)

  • Yes, I know this is a very OLD topic. Seventeen years ago I quoted a “soundtrack” quotation from a fiction novel. Today I just finished a novel called BEFORE WE WERE YOURS by Lisa Wingate.

    In 1939 a 12 year old girl is removed from a horrendous orphanage in Tennessee and adopted by decent parents. Her new father is a Hollywood film score composer, and she learns music from him. Near the end of her life she realizes something that I think is very relevant to all of us.

    “Life is not unlike cinema. Each scene has its own music, and the music is created for the scene, woven to it in ways we do not understand. No matter how much we love the melody of a bygone day or imagine the song of a future one, we must dance within the music of today, or we will always be out of step, stumbling around in something that doesn’t suit the moment.”

    Of course, she lets go of her past to live in the moment. (However, I still like Golden and Silver Age music and many bygone melodies, but I will keep an ear to current scores.)


    Seems like that speaks of more than just music, but our relationship with life as it occurs. Some bit about "all we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us", but put more eloquently in your quote.

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     Posted:   Oct 23, 2018 - 5:03 AM   
     By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

    What a great thread. I've never seen this one before...thanks!

    smile

     
     Posted:   Oct 23, 2018 - 6:24 AM   
     By:   mgh   (Member)

    Great thread, Joanie. Since we are closely related, I'm sure I will like the books you mentioned.

     
     
     Posted:   Oct 23, 2018 - 8:36 AM   
     By:   joan hue   (Member)

    Adventures J.J., yes that quotation is certainly a metaphor for how we live our lives. Nice insight.

    Thanks, Kev and mgh.

    mgh, as you can see, Howard and I liked Losing Julia. I didn't really recommend Before We Were Yours. For me it was just okay or average, but I liked the quotation and wanted to share it.

     
     
     Posted:   Oct 31, 2018 - 6:01 PM   
     By:   Howard L   (Member)

    Back at'cha, joan. It feels like another "homework assignment" lurketh...smile

     
     
     Posted:   Oct 31, 2018 - 10:29 PM   
     By:   joan hue   (Member)

    Nice to see you, Howard. When I started this topic, I did recommend the book Losing Julia, but I really didn't care that much for Before We Were Yours except that I did like the quotation.

     
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