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 Posted:   Oct 31, 2009 - 2:36 AM   
 By:   scorechaser   (Member)

I have always been a fan of Roland Emmerich´s movies, especially because my grandfather built the blue screens on "Moon 44", which were used for the special effects back then. Since then, Emmerich was always something personal for me, and I really like his movies.

His new movie "2012" opens soon, and it looks like it will rock! It has an epic run time of 158 minutes, which I think is a good sign, and the first pre-reviews I have read have nothing but good stuff to report.

Can´t wait for "2012"!

 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2009 - 4:29 AM   
 By:   Saxplayer   (Member)

I have always been a fan of Roland Emmerich´s movies, especially because my grandfather built the blue screens on "Moon 44", which were used for the special effects back then. Since then, Emmerich was always something personal for me, and I really like his movies.

His new movie "2012" opens soon, and it looks like it will rock! It has an epic run time of 158 minutes, which I think is a good sign, and the first pre-reviews I have read have nothing but good stuff to report.

Can´t wait for "2012"!


I saw some of Moon 44, hated it - disgusting film with the male rape stuff. I turned it off in disgust.

A long running time doesn't mean it's going to be a good film - look at the boring Titanic.

But one can be bored by a shorter film but the running time can fly past on long great film like The Sand Pebbles and Ben-Hur.

 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2009 - 4:56 AM   
 By:   scorechaser   (Member)

A movie doesnt have to be bad, just because it doesn´t fit into your favorite time period.

 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2009 - 4:56 AM   
 By:   Moonie   (Member)

Looks like one big Special Effects Party to me, not interested, Im tired of apocalyptic movies, even tho "they" say its really going to happen, see you in 2013.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2009 - 5:12 AM   
 By:   ahem   (Member)

At least he tried to venture out with THE PATRIOT. It must be pretty soul destroying remaking ID4 every other year (which in itself was poor man's George Pal).

 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2009 - 6:14 AM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

Looks horrible and offensive. Who cares if the whole world dies horribly, if Cusack and his family make it through, right? roll eyes

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2009 - 8:11 AM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

I've got mixed feelings about Emmerich. He went from decent little sci-fi adventures to decent big dumb blockbusters to, with Godzilla, The Day After Tomorrow and 10,000 BC, just plain bad. I've really very little interest in 2012.

 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2009 - 10:25 AM   
 By:   Eric Paddon   (Member)

I'm tired of these shallow FX-fests too, especially from Emmerich who just tries to find new ways to take sadistic pleasure in destroying famous landmarks in as impersonal a way possible in his stories of shallow characters who never leave any impression on the viewer. More and more in the post-9/11 period I find this whole impersonal attitude toward vast destruction distasteful. In contrast to the Irwin Allen disaster films of the 70s, which still have much to offer, I find I can't watch any of these kinds of films from the late 90s on any longer.

 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2009 - 10:45 AM   
 By:   Ebab   (Member)

It has an epic run time of 158 minutes, which I think is a good sign, [...]

???

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2009 - 12:04 PM   
 By:   mikey mike   (Member)

don't get excitment for this movie. I mean it's the same crap we've seen from the director a million times. save this time it's about the end of the world, not global climate or a giant lizard.

and people get mad when the studios remake movies?

 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2009 - 12:18 PM   
 By:   Cryogenix   (Member)

I love ID4, and found The Day After Tomorrow to have some cool visuals, but a weak story and hollow drama. No interest in 10,000 B.C., even if the DVD were free. Looks horrible.

But I love disaster/end of the world films and welcome all that dare to keep the genre alive. Speilberg's War of the Worlds failed, Deep Impact failed, Armageddon failed, The Core failed, etc, etc.

Actually, I enjoy seeing familiar landmarks in ruins. It's cool. Like Lady Liberty in Planet of the Apes or New York engulfed in a frozen wave, etc. Cool stuff.

One of these days, someone will get it right with both grand visuals and a meaty story.

Oh...and I think 2012 looks fairly lame. The acting also looks pretty bad.

I want an end of the world flick where we don't survive. I want some Comet Empire-like craft to attack us and make us fight to the death, using everything we have. But, in the end...we lose. But at least we went down fighting for every breath of life.

 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2009 - 12:24 PM   
 By:   GoldsmithFan   (Member)

I've liked some of Emmerich's films in the past, like Universal Soldier, Stargate (my favorite of his), and The Patriot, and even The Day After Tomorrow (IMO) wasn't that bad. But 2012 just looks plain bad to me. So bad, in fact, that I found the trailers almost come off as a parody of the disaster genre more than anything else.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2009 - 12:34 PM   
 By:   CindyLover   (Member)

I want an end of the world flick where we don't survive. I want some Comet Empire-like craft to attack us and make us fight to the death, using everything we have. But, in the end...we lose. But at least we went down fighting for every breath of life.

Nobody but you and film critics will go to see such a film, in the unlikely event such a film is ever greenlighted. I guarantee you.

 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2009 - 12:40 PM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

I want an end of the world flick where we don't survive.

Go rent Knowing.

 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2009 - 1:02 PM   
 By:   GoldsmithFan   (Member)

Go rent Knowing.

Was about to say the same thing. Now there was a film where the end of the world was portrayed as it would really be, down-right frightening, and not a big flashy "jee, the world's coming to an end but look how cool it looks!" kind of movie.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2009 - 3:03 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Hey, Philipp, looks like it's only you and me who are hyped for this film. I LOVE disaster movies and can enjoy a movie ONLY for the audiovisual feast and the spectacle alone, which this film seems to have LOTS of. It's like one big setpiece after the other! I don't care if the story is thin or the acting sucks, that's not why I go to see an Emmerich pic in the first place. Then I'll go watch an Ingmar Bergman or something.

2012 will rock indeed!

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 1, 2009 - 1:42 AM   
 By:   CindyLover   (Member)

Go rent Knowing.

Was about to say the same thing. Now there was a film where the end of the world was portrayed as it would really be, down-right frightening, and not a big flashy "jee, the world's coming to an end but look how cool it looks!" kind of movie.


But even that movie allowed some people to survive and begin again on another world.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 1, 2009 - 1:43 AM   
 By:   CindyLover   (Member)

And I'm not really that up for this either...

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 2, 2009 - 1:44 PM   
 By:   groovemeister   (Member)

Does this one have a President's speech in it ? smile

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 2, 2009 - 4:33 PM   
 By:   Reeler   (Member)

Does this one have a President's speech in it ? smile

No, I think in the ad a giant ocean wave crushes the White House. smile

The FX stuff looks extraordinary, award-worthy maybe, but can Emmerich come up with characters that you care about?

 
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