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 Posted:   Nov 5, 2009 - 4:33 PM   
 By:   suburbanite   (Member)

And Cusack, et al, act like it's a roller-coaster ride instead of a global catastrophe.


That's what really sticks in my craw about the ads for this film. Thousands, millions are perishing all around them, and Cusack and his brood are all going "Whoooooaaaaaahhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!" like it's an especially good amusement park ride. mad


Yeah, I noticed that, too. Very off-putting.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 5, 2009 - 4:53 PM   
 By:   suburbanite   (Member)

I won't be attending this film, but I suspect the Farm Film Celebrity Blow-Up guys will.

Then again, they might not like it because I'm sure John Cusack's character won't blow up real good.

 
 Posted:   Nov 5, 2009 - 7:16 PM   
 By:   Cryogenix   (Member)

All 2012 needs is a few touching, bonding moments to grab your emotions. The thrills and tragedies after/during those should make your interest in the characters grow. I don't see Cusack as a strong leading man in a role like this. I've loved probably 98% of his films (so I am a big fan) but 2012 looks like a huge stretch for this guy. His boyish appeal and trademark deer-caught-in-headlights expression probably won't work in this film.

ID4 was a great popcorn flick, and the few elements that kept it grounded and made it real for me were the Goldblum/Hirsch, Paxton/daughter and Smith/Goldblum dymanics. I didn't care about Smith's stripper wife or his son. I didn't give a shit about the military guys or the Keanu-wannbe and his family. However, I did care about Smith and enjoyed his performance.

The Day After Tomorrow just seemed like one obvious setup after another to keep the story going. Naturally, that's what a movie does, but this film made it feel too obvious, whereas ID4's structure felt far less contrived so I could really get into the movie. A lot of bad acting in both movies, really, but there was enough good talent in ID4 to support the ham and cheeseballs. I can't say the same about TDAT. Quaid wasn't convincing and no one else gave a worthwhile performance. I was actually annoyed by the leading male role (the son)...he just annoyed me. He has a weird look, almost like he's not a real person or maybe a man pretending to be a lesbian. He was just lame as all hell. I really wanted him to be eaten by the wild dogs.

I've watched the 2012 trailer a few more times. The FX and grandness of destruction look very cool, but the acting, reactions and interaction seem pretty bad.

Maybe it'll surprise me. I'll probably see it on the big screen because I regret not having bought into the ID4 hype when it first hit theaters. I waited till it came out on DVD...

 
 Posted:   Nov 5, 2009 - 7:30 PM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

Who wants to bet we'll see a heroic doggy leaping to safety mere inches before a gigantic fireball/earthquake/tidal wave engulfs him? roll eyes

 
 Posted:   Nov 5, 2009 - 7:33 PM   
 By:   Cryogenix   (Member)

Who wants to bet we'll see a heroic doggy leaping to safety mere inches before a gigantic fireball/earthquake/tidal wave engulfs him? roll eyes

Oh, yeah...I also loved it when Boomer made it out of the tunnel just in the nick of time... wink

One of my favorite moments in ID4 comes when Goldlbum captures a chess piece and places it off to the side. VERY smooth and interesting action. I also liked that he referred to chess several times in the movie. It all made sense and seemed naturally imparted.

I often wonder, though, how the hell Ms. Stripper was able to drive that big-ass firetruck through the ruins of Los Angeles. I mean, it didn't seem like you could ride a unicycle through all the rubble, yet there she was driving around like she's on the freeway at 2AM.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 5, 2009 - 10:58 PM   
 By:   riotengine   (Member)

Saw it today. I'm not gonna spoil it for anybody by writing about it. I will only say, hopefully Mr Emmerich and Sony paid something to the estates of Phillip Wiley, Edwin Balmer, and maybe George Pal's. wink

Greg Espinoza

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 6, 2009 - 1:44 PM   
 By:   Reeler   (Member)

In the movies, when someone we like or generally feel predisposed to gets hurt or killed, we want to feel sad or sympathy for that person.

I enjoy watching them die. wink

His boyish appeal and trademark deer-caught-in-headlights expression probably won't work in this film.

Meaning he isn't a very good actor?

Oh, yeah...I also loved it when Boomer made it out of the tunnel just in the nick of time...

Barbequed dog would have been better. wink

 
 Posted:   Nov 8, 2009 - 11:34 AM   
 By:   Eric Paddon   (Member)

Here is Ronald Emmerich admitting how Hollywood is more than willing to indulge in symbolic bigotry against Christianity but is cowardly to do the same to Islam.

"He razed Rio de Janeiro; Rome; California; Washington, D.C.; Tibet; Las Vegas; Yellowstone National Park; and more but decided against destroying Islamic symbols. “My co-writer, Harald” Kloser, “said, ‘I’m not writing this to get a fatwa on my head,’ ” Mr. Emmerich said. “We have Jesus falling apart in all kinds of forms. The Vatican falls on people’s heads, and we can do that because we’re a free, Western society, but if there would be, like, Mecca destroyed, there would be an outrage. And so you don’t do it. At the end of the thing it’s entertainment.”

Yet another reason why I won't be seeing this film.

 
 Posted:   Nov 8, 2009 - 12:45 PM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

This trailer will be more entertaining than the movie. big grin

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 12, 2009 - 1:21 PM   
 By:   riotengine   (Member)

Roger Ebert's surprisingly positive review.

http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20091111/REVIEWS/911119994

Greg Espinoza

 
 Posted:   Nov 12, 2009 - 1:38 PM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

Ebert loves EV-ER-Y-THING since he came back to reviewing films from his recent illness. Try and find ONE week in the last two years where he hasn't handed out at LEAST one ***1/2 or **** review.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 12, 2009 - 1:42 PM   
 By:   riotengine   (Member)

Ebert loves EV-ER-Y-THING since he came back to reviewing films from his recent illness. Try and find ONE week in the last two years where he hasn't handed out at LEAST one ***1/2 or **** review.

So this is an "I'm just glad to be alive, I love everything!" review? wink

Greg Espinoza

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 12, 2009 - 2:04 PM   
 By:   suburbanite   (Member)

Here is Ronald Emmerich admitting how Hollywood is more than willing to indulge in symbolic bigotry against Christianity but is cowardly to do the same to Islam.

"He razed Rio de Janeiro; Rome; California; Washington, D.C.; Tibet; Las Vegas; Yellowstone National Park; and more but decided against destroying Islamic symbols. “My co-writer, Harald” Kloser, “said, ‘I’m not writing this to get a fatwa on my head,’ ” Mr. Emmerich said. “We have Jesus falling apart in all kinds of forms. The Vatican falls on people’s heads, and we can do that because we’re a free, Western society, but if there would be, like, Mecca destroyed, there would be an outrage. And so you don’t do it. At the end of the thing it’s entertainment.”

Yet another reason why I won't be seeing this film.


Excellent point, Eric.

BTW, I don't have the link, but the AP gave it 1.5 out of 4 stars.

 
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