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 Posted:   Jan 18, 2010 - 8:56 PM   
 By:   GoblinScore   (Member)

Yeah, this score is fantastic, I don't care if it was 5 minutes SHORTER than prior
releases - I cringe every time I played that Sony disc - you can almost hear the
National Philharmonic trying to break through the sonic sheen on those tapes,
but alas it was not meant to be.

Keep 'em coming boys - Kool Aid is yummy........

 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2010 - 9:07 PM   
 By:   Josh "Swashbuckler" Gizelt   (Member)

This is one of my favorite Jerry Goldsmith scores, but I could barely stand to listen to it on the Sony CD because of the abysmal sonics. I can't wait to hear Goldsmith's supreme evocation of the freedom of flight unbound by crappy sound and allowed to soar.

Between this and Islands in the Stream, I'm in some Jerry heaven.

 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2010 - 9:19 PM   
 By:   drivingmissdaisy   (Member)

I have a theme on some CD, but never really paid must attention. I liked the sample a lot, gorgeous cover from Intrada! I'm getting it for shizzle.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2010 - 9:28 PM   
 By:   Eugene Iemola   (Member)

The early to mid-sixties was the best of times when I discovered how much about movie music I loved, so I don't mind spending another $20 bucks on that. I happen to think I grew up in the best years for film music, late fifties to late-sixties, and as a few have said above, THE BLUE MAX was a big roadshow presentation, but in New York it played on a hard ticket, twice a day, at the Sutton Theater on East 57th Street, which had less than 1,000 seats. Anyone else an old New Yorker around these parts who can confirm this? Anyway, this'll be my fourth incarnation after the Mainstream, 1st Citadel, and the Sony-baloney versions. I can't wait.

 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2010 - 10:03 PM   
 By:   Accidental Genius   (Member)

This is one really classic score that I've never heard but I think it's gonna be ordered in my next SAE batch. Too classic and influential not to be a part of the collection. Way to go, Intrada! And I'm glad this is makin' all the BLUE MAX fans happy, that it finally gets a definitive treatment.

 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2010 - 10:05 PM   
 By:   Sigerson Holmes   (Member)

. . . and the Sony-baloney versions.


LOL!

 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2010 - 11:40 PM   
 By:   Mister L   (Member)

We´ve had pleasant surprises so far, and best thing is, these are not often found in "official lists", so i think this is going to be excellent Goldsmith-year again!! I´ve had same problem as some of you, those old Blue Max-versions didn´t exactly encourage me to listen to them. But now this is solved, and i´m more than happy. ORDERED.

 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2010 - 11:54 PM   
 By:   MattyO   (Member)

I very nearly purchased the Sony version not 2 months ago from Amazon - I'm incredibly glad I held off now since this Intrada edition looks superb!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 19, 2010 - 12:02 AM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

I also like how Intrada reversed the poster image for the cover, too.

Well, actually, Intrada REVERTED to the poster image for the cover:



All of the prior releases had reversed the poster image:

 
 Posted:   Jan 19, 2010 - 12:16 AM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)



George loves the samples.

 
 Posted:   Jan 19, 2010 - 12:19 AM   
 By:   panavision   (Member)

Just ordered from SA:

BLUE MAX
ISLANDS IN THE STREAM
GREAT TRAIN ROBBERY


big grin

 
 Posted:   Jan 19, 2010 - 12:28 AM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

So in other words, for only $19.95, you get five minutes more music than was on the "definitive" Legacy release from 1995.

I'm beginning to wonder what's the point?

Can anyone say George Lucas?


LOL! Your point of view is perfectly valid, of course. So don't buy it.

As with all things, they're there for those who want them and anyone else can walk on by.

Cheers

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 19, 2010 - 12:38 AM   
 By:   Miguel Rojo   (Member)

First saw this film on holiday in Spain of all places in 1969, where the holiday camp I was staying at had a cinema.
Dug the music straight away.
I had this original LP of this score and the score is in my library but this release sounds like a decent enough upgrade for a classic, legendary score.
When I first saw the film two pieces stuck with me - one, of course was the main title - which as wedge says in his review, really did capture the imagination of flight and humanise the robotic Stachel - plus the long track on the LP side 2 - the flight one with all the mean snare drumming that goes over the sequence of Stachel insisting on breaking off formation and attacking the enemy.
To this day I think its up there with some of the best music Goldsmith ever wrote.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 19, 2010 - 2:54 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

This is one of my least favourite Goldsmith scores of all time. I had the Sony CD for many years, and gave it DOZENS of chances, but I think it only happened once or twice that I actually managed to stay through the whole thing. To me, it was simply too bombastic, lots of "screaming" brass and percussion that went on and on. It's the complete anti-thesis of what I like to listen to these days. So I sold it off just a few months ago.

Still, it's good to know that they cleaned up the sound a bit for this one. While the Sony was perfectly OK for its age, it still had a way to go and I'm glad they found the right source elements to fix it up.

I'd like to see the film some day. I'm sure it's fine and appropriately "rousing" in context.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 19, 2010 - 5:40 AM   
 By:   CinemaScope   (Member)

A fine release. The trouble is that I've has the Sony for ages, & thinking about it, I haven't taken the disc out of the box in the past ten years, so I'd just be buying it for buying it sake, & I don't do that anymore. Still waiting for the first purchase of this year. I won't mind if it's just 3 or 4 discs I buy all year. It would be 3 or 4 titles I really want.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 19, 2010 - 5:58 AM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

I probably paid the going rate at the time for the Varese release.
I picked up the Sony re-issue for £3.99 in the Virgin closing down sale.
The improved sound on this one is the main reason I've just ordered it, together with
ISLANDS IN THE STREAM.
Double (Classic) Jerry, not a bad start to the year!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 19, 2010 - 6:04 AM   
 By:   paul rossen   (Member)

The early to mid-sixties was the best of times when I discovered how much about movie music I loved, so I don't mind spending another $20 bucks on that. I happen to think I grew up in the best years for film music, late fifties to late-sixties, and as a few have said above, THE BLUE MAX was a big roadshow presentation, but in New York it played on a hard ticket, twice a day, at the Sutton Theater on East 57th Street, which had less than 1,000 seats. Anyone else an old New Yorker around these parts who can confirm this? Anyway, this'll be my fourth incarnation after the Mainstream, 1st Citadel, and the Sony-baloney versions. I can't wait.


THE BLUE MAX did indeed play Roadshow at the Sutton Theater on East 57th Street as that is where I saw it....

 
 Posted:   Jan 19, 2010 - 6:16 AM   
 By:   Mick Moreau   (Member)

Based on the sound samples, I had to pull ther trigger on this one. The improvement of the musics overall sound is worth paying for it again (IMHO). The Blue max has been one of my top 10 Jerry and has had repeat playings while on my commute to work.

For those that don't care for the extra 5 minutes or improved sound that is their choice, but try not to deride others for wanting more.

Music companies are in business for the money, as is anyone who needs to earn a living. You find a market and cater to that market in any way one can to keep the cash flow coming. Some tend to cater to that need in anyway possible (i.e unmentionables that circumvent the legal process).

As far as I am concerned there will never be a "Definitive Version" of ANY score. Many releases listed as such over the last 30 years have proven that statement to be wrong. Not that this was the intention when the music was released, but the "unknown" factor has a tendancy to change the validity of such a statement.

"Recently discovered LOST archive /tapes/masters", "Improvements in music recording technology", and "Other unknown elements" will pop up from now until the second coming. These too may be labeled as "The Definitive collection"

Thats where the money is folks. Getting the music to the affionado is mostly secondary in the grand scheme of earning a living. Composers no longer with us (such as Jerry Goldsmith)have a veritable goldmine of scores that will keep record companies churning out new releases for years to come. Just look to any deceased popular musician to know that this is true.

Look at the upcoming Jimmi Hendrix release announced in the papers on monday... He's been gone a long time and yet another "lost" song or tow has suddenly popped up. Amazing isn't it? wink


My two cents wink

Mick

 
 Posted:   Jan 19, 2010 - 6:21 AM   
 By:   Jehannum   (Member)

This is one of my least favourite Goldsmith scores of all time. I had the Sony CD for many years, and gave it DOZENS of chances, but I think it only happened once or twice that I actually managed to stay through the whole thing. To me, it was simply too bombastic, lots of "screaming" brass and percussion that went on and on. It's the complete anti-thesis of what I like to listen to these days. So I sold it off just a few months ago.

Still, it's good to know that they cleaned up the sound a bit for this one. While the Sony was perfectly OK for its age, it still had a way to go and I'm glad they found the right source elements to fix it up.

I'd like to see the film some day. I'm sure it's fine and appropriately "rousing" in context.


I dislike the score except the theme. I'm getting this new release because improved sound quality often helps me to appreciate something I didn't like before.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 19, 2010 - 6:30 AM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

To me, it was simply too bombastic, lots of "screaming" brass and percussion that went on and on. It's the complete anti-thesis of what I like to listen to these days. So I sold it off just a few months ago.


Heh, to me that sort is Goldsmith at his best (well that, and the impressionist stuff like Papillon and Legend). I don't much care for many of his scores that people love because there's so little...I guess 'motion' would be the best word.

 
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