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Someone mentioned Battle Beyond The Stars over on this thread: http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=66515&forumID=7&archive=0 And that got me humming the wonderful/horrible Cowboy and the Jackers fanfare. Yes, the terrific moment when (bless their hearts) the trumpets just can't keep it together. I believe the technical term for what the trumpets do is "blat." For a long time, this was the score I wanted to own, thinking "if I only had that record, I wouldn't need anymore." What a simpler time that was. Anyway, I got the record (within a year or so of release) and played it often but, sadly, it did not eliminate the need to buy more more more. This is still a really fun score. And all the foreshadowing of Star Trek II only makes it even more fun. I still love the Main Title theme and the aforementioned Cowboy and the Jackers track. You can still find copies of the cd http://bit.ly/9RaJLZ but they're expensive. I still have my vinyl copy as well as the cd. Ah. Good times.
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I agree, Neil, that BATTLE remains a fun score that, despite the less-than-perfect performance and the STAR TREK: THE MOTION PICTURE knockoffs, still shows a first rate talent chafing to show his stuff. Actually, you can hear more STAR TREK II precursors in his score to WOLFEN. (The "that which may not be mentioned" of WOLFEN also contains DEADLY BLESSING, which shows many bits of what was to become his score from SOMETHING WICKED THIS WAY COMES, when it's not doing an OMEN analog, more than likely a case of "temp track fever.")
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It's the same sort of situation as with Rambo III. The performance there is so poor at times I literally am bored at the very parts where I know the music should be enthralling me. Do you have the remastered Rambo III? I had the old Intrada and didn't care for the score very much (thought it was because of the performance). Turned out it made a night and day difference when I upgraded to the remastered Intrada album. Now I love it! Yavar
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Wow, Rambo III too, huh? Another enjoyably played score from my point of view. However, judging from your favorite score/composer list, I wouldn't argue much with your musical taste. Those are ALL incredible scores and composers too. Great choices, all. With regards to the "Battle" cue, maybe it just wasn't to be since you've compared them already. I guess I'm just very picky when it comes to my music. For instance, the early drum roll and off trumpet as soon as the Star Wars Main Title begins for Return Of The Jedi. They had the common sense to at least make it less obvious in the actual film by removing the drum roll appearing "before" the poorly timed trumpet player. Any Classical piece of music where I know the music extremely well... an incorrect tempo, orchestra mistakes, revised orchestration, key change, poorly mixed recording, etc will usually have me seeking out a better alternative. With film scores I have the original, but it's still interesting to seek out an alternative, sometimes even better performance of the music. It all just depends on what I'm hearing and what it does for me as a listening experience. Do you have the remastered Rambo III? I had the old Intrada and didn't care for the score very much (thought it was because of the performance). Turned out it made a night and day difference when I upgraded to the remastered Intrada album. Now I love it! Yavar I think you have a point there, and yes I do have the remastered edition, but also the original. I'll give it a shot, but I feel after it, I will still be wishing I was listening to Rambo: First Blood Part II instead.
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Why not just do a straight up re-recording with say the RSNO? Horner has all of the written scores and he's not about to give them up for a new recording. You'd have to have someone do a take down of all of the cues from the filim itself and that's not a cheap thing to do. Ford A. Thaxton
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