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 Posted:   Apr 4, 2010 - 3:07 PM   
 By:   william 711   (Member)

i think that was the title-it was a film that starred tommy steele and title song by mary hopkins has it ever been released on cd.........

 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2010 - 3:39 PM   
 By:   CH-CD   (Member)

i think that was the title-it was a film that starred tommy steele and title song by mary hopkins has it ever been released on cd.........


There was an LP issued at the time, but, as far as I know, there hasn't been a "legitimate" CD release. Shame!...'cos it's a great Elmer score.

I think the main problem being that the album was released on the now defunct Paramount label.

However, other titles from this same Paramount label have been issued on CD by other companies....so, who knows?

Fingers crossed !

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2010 - 3:41 PM   
 By:   mulan98   (Member)

i think that was the title-it was a film that starred tommy steele and title song by mary hopkins has it ever been released on cd.........

Oh Yes. I've got the LP.

The movie is seemingly lost. Directed by James Clavell. The producer co-star was Stanley Baker.

A semi epic about a London hero/thief of times past and his malevolent nemesis.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2010 - 5:49 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

Paramount LPs are now owned by Universal Music Group, so Varese or Intrada could possibly release the LP tracks. If Paramount cannot locate the film elements, however, an expanded release would be unlikely.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2010 - 6:01 PM   
 By:   Niall from Ireland   (Member)

Paramount LPs are now owned by Universal Music Group, so Varese or Intrada could possibly release the LP tracks. If Paramount cannot locate the film elements, however, an expanded release would be unlikely.

Unless of course the tapes were among Elmer's private collection as was LWTPS for example, we live in hope. I'd love to see this one released complete...calling Mr. Kimmel or Mr. Banning!

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2010 - 6:06 PM   
 By:   mrscott   (Member)

Paramount LPs are now owned by Universal Music Group, so Varese or Intrada could possibly release the LP tracks. If Paramount cannot locate the film elements, however, an expanded release would be unlikely.

Unless of course the tapes were among Elmer's private collection as was LWTPS for example, we live in hope. I'd love to see this one released complete...calling Mr. Kimmel or Mr. Banning!


Since he had mono mix down versions of Gypsy Moths and Alice B Toklas from which the shennanigans of a tennis instructor produced LP bootlegs I have no doubt he had reel to reel of everything he composed and recorded. Where are they now? The late Len Engel had a lot of Fox OST's at his home in Bel Air, CA. Since his death no telling where they ended up. Not back at the studio thats for sure.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2010 - 6:16 PM   
 By:   RM Eastman   (Member)

It has been awhile since I heard this score, but I recall loving it.

 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2010 - 6:38 PM   
 By:   Lukas Kendall   (Member)


Elmer's tapes have been donated with the rest of his personal archives to USC. We used his masters for Heavy Metal: The Score and The Bridge at Remagen. While he has tapes of many unreleased scores, many others are missing, sad to say.

Lukas

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2010 - 7:05 PM   
 By:   mrscott   (Member)

Elmer's tapes have been donated with the rest of his personal archives to USC. We used his masters for Heavy Metal: The Score and The Bridge at Remagen. While he has tapes of many unreleased scores, many others are missing, sad to say.

Lukas


Great question as to where they are at. The Gypsy Moths and Toklas were lent to a tennis teacher who was teaching the game to his kids. The story was the TT admired the music and wanted to borrow and listen to it. Of course copies were made and the LP bootlegs appeared. EB never got the tapes back. What a shame.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2010 - 7:24 PM   
 By:   Niall from Ireland   (Member)

Elmer's tapes have been donated with the rest of his personal archives to USC. We used his masters for Heavy Metal: The Score and The Bridge at Remagen. While he has tapes of many unreleased scores, many others are missing, sad to say.

Lukas


I have a strong feeling in me waters (as they say!) that you are working on some special Elmer music, no better man!

 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2010 - 8:02 PM   
 By:   Dana Wilcox   (Member)

I am the world's #1 Elmer Bernstein fan (followed closely by Joan Hue) and although I've never loved WHERE'S JACK, I hope that it and all other possible EB scores will in time be released (tomorrow would be good!). If I had my 'druthers I'd be looking for original score releases for WALK ON THE WILD SIDE, TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD, THE CARPETBAGGERS (a legit release, that is), I LOVE YOU ALICE B. TOKLAS and a few others before WHERE'S JACK...

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2010 - 9:31 PM   
 By:   Preston Neal Jones   (Member)

Dear Dana,

I love WHERE'S JACK, so I guess that makes me Elmer's #1 fan, and you and Joan are #'s 2 and 3.

smile

PJ

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2010 - 9:35 PM   
 By:   mrscott   (Member)

Dear Dana,

I love WHERE'S JACK, so I guess that makes me Elmer's #1 fan, and you and Joan are #'s 2 and 3.

smile

PJ


I adore and honor Where's Jack above all others. So you can all move down 1 notch. Wait are we talking about the hamburger selling clown? No. Oops, my mistake.

 
 Posted:   Apr 5, 2010 - 1:50 AM   
 By:   Lokutus   (Member)

Maybe the upcoming 15CDs box if filled with Elmer goodies? ;-)

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 5, 2010 - 2:32 AM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

Elmer's tapes have been donated with the rest of his personal archives to USC. We used his masters for Heavy Metal: The Score and The Bridge at Remagen. While he has tapes of many unreleased scores, many others are missing, sad to say.

Lukas


There is a description of much of the Bernstein collection on a USC web site:
http://www.usc.edu/libraries/collections/elmer_bernstein/

I've always found it odd that they list in some detail the 95,000 pages of printed materials that they have, but except for the tapes of the "Film Music Collection" and "Heavy Metal," the listing of other materials in the collection ("16 & 35 mm film, reel-to-reel audio-tape, photographs, video/DVD, compact discs, DAT tapes, cassettes, correspondence, albums, and awards") is scant.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 5, 2010 - 3:24 AM   
 By:   CinemaScope   (Member)

I can still remember seeing this, I thought it was spoiled by having Tommy Steel in the lead roll. I wouldn't think it's a lost film, just one of a vast amount of movies from the 50's & 60's that have been forgotten, & it wouldn't make much sense for the studios to release them (DVD ect.). The only thing I can remember about the music is the Mary hopkin song.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 5, 2010 - 9:37 AM   
 By:   Morricone   (Member)

Maybe it is because I adore surprises but I love this score. He did nothing else like it and this is one of his few shots at a Europen style score. For me passages rival Delerue in his period mode. I simply gave up expecting it to pop up because when I inquire about many British scores I find too many earlier ones are lost forever. Again a magnificent example of Elmer, the chameleon. I did pick up the Tickertape CD of the LP paired with KIDNAPPED until something better comes along.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 5, 2010 - 1:18 PM   
 By:   Niall from Ireland   (Member)

Dear Dana,

I love WHERE'S JACK, so I guess that makes me Elmer's #1 fan, and you and Joan are #'s 2 and 3.

smile

PJ


Hold on a moment there now Preston, I alone love the big band recording of True Grit AND I have always loved Where's Jack too, so I must be the numero uno! Who are these Dana and Joan people ? Never heard of them johnny come lately's!

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 5, 2010 - 1:47 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

I alone love the big band recording of True Grit AND I have always loved Where's Jack too . . .

You are NOT alone. I've always enjoyed the Capitol "True Grit" "soundtrack," which I purchased on LP nearly 40 years ago (before even seeing the film). But I haven't played the "Where's Jack" LP nearly as much as "True Grit."

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 5, 2010 - 2:08 PM   
 By:   Niall from Ireland   (Member)

I alone love the big band recording of True Grit AND I have always loved Where's Jack too . . .

You are NOT alone. I've always enjoyed the Capitol "True Grit" "soundtrack," which I purchased on LP nearly 40 years ago (before even seeing the film). But I haven't played the "Where's Jack" LP nearly as much as "True Grit."


Oh good! I always thought that old Capitol LP was a good listen. As much as I enjoy Elmer's rerecording and the Tadlow version I'm still hoping that the original recording of True Grit will see the light of day eventually. The fact that this wonderful score didn't win an Oscar in it's day is still a crying shame!

 
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