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 Posted:   Apr 11, 2010 - 1:52 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

I've always been interested in those pre-TMP years when Trek fandom was thriving via conventions, syndicated reruns of TOS, the Blish novels, etc., and there's precious little film footage from those early '70s cons.

Here's a few minutes of footage from the August 22 (my 4th birthday!) to the 24th, 1975 Star Trek convention, narrated by the man who originally shot it.




Did anyone here attend those early conventions?

 
 Posted:   Apr 11, 2010 - 8:28 AM   
 By:   Adam.   (Member)

I attended only one convention. This was at the San Jose Civic Center in California around '74/'75. I was about 11 years old. It was promoted on TV by Creature Features host Bob Wilkins. My mother was shocked when I wanted to withdraw 25 dollars from my savings account to buy stuff! I bought a Starfleet Technical Manual and Blueprints, as well as a large poster of the Enterprise firing it's phasers. I got to meet actors James Doohan and Bruce Hyde (Riley). Bruce performed a couple of songs while playing the guitar, including the infamous "I'll take you home again Kathleen". We also watched the famous Blooper Reel. It was a blast!

 
 Posted:   Apr 11, 2010 - 10:46 AM   
 By:   Steve Johnson   (Member)

I guess the first one I went to was in 1976- I had attended and worked on numerous major comic book conventions from 1971-1974 while in junior high and high school here in Dallas, and Larry Herndon and Joe Bob Williams had produced them. They were catching wind of the draw of these these things around the country and threw one the spring of that year. I went, and back then, there wasn't a 10th of the merchandise available now- the previously mentioned blueprints, a few books, lots of cheap posters and stills- that was about it. STARLOG magazine was still about 6 months away. Oh, I remember if you had 80 beans to spare, you could buy a pretty good working replica of a phaser gun.

Nineteen hundred and seventy six- wow. 34 years ago.

 
 Posted:   Apr 11, 2010 - 7:45 PM   
 By:   Dr. Nigel Channing   (Member)

I attended a Star Trek Convention at the Hartford Civic Center in the mid-1970s. I don't remember much about it, except roaring at the blooper reel. Gene Roddenberry was the master of ceremonies, and I believe Walter Koenig appeared. It was one of the high points of my geeky teenage years.

 
 Posted:   Apr 11, 2010 - 8:15 PM   
 By:   Gary S.   (Member)

I attended a couple of conventions in my college/law school years (1972-79). Also James Doohan was a guest on campus when I was in law school. Better than any of that were the sometimes heated discussions I had in college with a future Trek novelist.

 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2010 - 12:16 AM   
 By:   Mark Ford   (Member)

I've gone to 3 (and no I never dressed up for any of them) and the first was in either '74 or '75 in Houston. It was a tiny event and I don't remember much about it except that the dealer room was very small with only a handful of booths which mostly had b&w photos from the series. I got a Vulcan Academy jersey from a t-shirt booth. Walter Koenig was sitting on a table behind one of the booths and I had him sign my program. There were very few people there so he hung out talking to the folks that ran the booth.

I became an instant fan from the first day the series aired back in '66. As a 9 year old boy, I was starved for SF and there just wasn't much on TV back then. The series was a godsend and the philosophy of the show made a definite impact on my young life that has stayed with me up till this day. What I learned about logic through Spock has served me well in my career as an IT analyst/engineer.

Thankfully syndication brought the show back from the grave and I know I watched every show at least 8 or 9 times in those early years. There weren't many of us fans early on, but...well we know how it turned out!

 
 Posted:   Jul 10, 2015 - 2:39 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

I'm watching "The Immunity Syndrome" and noticed that Lt. Kyle--your Agonizer, please--is in this one, in a gold shirt, working the helm. That led to me looking up the actor, John Winston--born in Leeds btw--and wondered if the actor ever did the Trek Convention circuit. His career was pretty much being Mr. Kyle though he had some small roles in the '70s. He's credited as having a cameo in Wrath of Khan, but I must have missed his appearance.

 
 Posted:   Jul 10, 2015 - 3:15 PM   
 By:   That Neil Guy   (Member)

I'm watching "The Immunity Syndrome" and noticed that Lt. Kyle--your Agonizer, please--is in this one, in a gold shirt, working the helm. That led to me looking up the actor, John Winston--born in Leeds btw--and wondered if the actor ever did the Trek Convention circuit. His career was pretty much being Mr. Kyle though he had some small roles in the '70s. He's credited as having a cameo in Wrath of Khan, but I must have missed his appearance.

He's on the Reliant with Chekov and Terrell.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 10, 2015 - 3:16 PM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

Jim, at Memory Alpha it says that John Winston reprised his Lt. Kyle roll in WRATH OF KHAN on board The Reliant. Here's a link to a photo:

http://en.memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/John_Winston?file=Kyle%252C_2285.jpg

More on Winston at memory alpha:

http://en.memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/John_Winston

 
 Posted:   Jul 10, 2015 - 3:30 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Thanks, gents. smile I'm just geeky enough that I've had both Memory Alpha *and* Memory Beta long-since bookmarked.

zooba, you're a long-in-the-chomper Trekkie/Trekker, certainly you must have some "Early Fandom" tales to share!

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 10, 2015 - 4:58 PM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

Never attended a TREK Convention but did see Leonard Nimoy speak at the Jr. College I would go to after High School. It was around 1974 and I was a Junior in High School and still didn't have a car yet, so my Dad drove me there and picked me up afterward. Nimoy was cool and it was most enjoyable.

Other TREK connections for me would be I was an extra on Veronica's Closet, the Kirstie Alley show and she kind of flirted with me. She was heavy at the time, but still kind of hot.

I was an extra Union Soldier in the VOYAGER Civil War Episode with Q and Susie Plakson playing a Civil War lady who would later play Worf's Love and mother to Alexander. I'll have to find some photos I took. Got to sit in the Captain's chair when the set was dark and the actress that played the Captain Janeway bought the whole cast and crew and extras PINKS Hotdogs one day. We shot a few days at Griffith Park for the Civil War battles.

Went to interview to be in INSURRECTION. Met Jonathan Frakes who was very cool. It was to play Baku Villagers but they went for young, tall and blond people for that.

Was called to be a regular extra on NEXT GENERATION right when they started, but had to pass because I had just taken a full time job with Warner Bros. International TV Distribution.


Another STAR TREK connection is that I did the stage show of JESUS CHRIST SUPERSTAR with Shannon Fill, who played Sito Jaxa on NEXT GENERATION on the eps "The First Duty" and "Lower Decks". She was a sweetheart and a lot of fun to know and work with. She did the Treks after we did SUPERSTAR.

Shannon as Sito:





Shannon and the Zoob in JESUS CHRIST SUPERSTAR 1989 North Hollywood California:







http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=Shannon+Fill+Star+Trek&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

Sorry Jim if I ventured off beyond STAR TREK FANDOM The Early Years. I can delete at your request.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 10, 2015 - 7:40 PM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

I always thought Shannon was very pretty, and it really hurt when the killed her off like that in TNG.

I wish I was around for those early years cons in the 70's, that seemed like a great time to be a fan, and attend those cons. I went to one Con, it ws Denver the year Final Frontier came out. I saw Harve Bennett and William Shatner speak in person. I thought that were both great, and they sold the picture very well. I found Harve a really down to earth speaker, a completely likable guy without any pretensions. It was at that con that I found the Silva Screen CD of Alien, I had been looking for that forever, when I saw it in the bin it was like lights came down from heaven. I still treasure it, it is a CD with a gold tint. That summer I went to see Final Frontier I think like 6 or 7 times, partly nostalgia for those guys. I always wanted to go to one of the big Cons like in Las Vegas, but I have never got there.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 10, 2015 - 9:36 PM   
 By:   Joe E.   (Member)

I was a kid in the early days of Trek fandom (I was born between the second and third seasons, in June of '68 - I just turned 47 a couple weeks ago), and I also spent most of my youth overseas as an Air Force brat (where they do have conventions as well, of course, but I don't think they were as big a thing there then), so I didn't get to go to any of those. I didn't even learn of the existence of conventions until the early '80s, when I discovered Starlog magazine and the like, and started reading about organized fandom. From then on I wanted very much to go to a con, but didn't get to go to any until I was finally able to attend a couple of smaller cons in northwest Florida in the early '90s. I first attended DragonCon in 1998, a few months after turning 30.

In the past five years or so, I've started going to cons more - mostly boardgaming cons (BGGCon - BoardGameGeek Con - in 2010, and Dice Tower Con each year since it began in 2012; this year my wife and I extended our annual DTC trip to incorporate it into our delayed honeymoon), as well as finally returning to DragonCon in 2011, and again just last year - shortly after moving to the Atlanta area ourselves, so hopefully I won't ever miss another, and can make every year from now on. But one of those early '90s cons I mentioned earlier was the only one devoted mainly to Star Trek specifically (it was a small con with few guests, but they included Mark Lenard and Robin Curtis).

 
 Posted:   Jul 13, 2015 - 8:20 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

I've heard varying stories from older Trek folk who glow whenever they recall those 1970s Cons but then I've also read things where Nimoy and Shatner were quite prickly and refused to sign anything back then (though I'm by no means an autograph hound; quite the opposite).

When I was at the Florida SuperCon this past month--my first-ever large Con--Nichelle Nichols and Walter Koenig were charging $40.00 an autograph. They seemed pleasant enough and were sort of towards the back of the Miami Beach Convention Center, which is where this thing was held, but it was nice seeing them in person. However, I stayed away from getting anything signed--too much $ for my budget.

There's sooo much more pop culture out there than when we were kids and I thought that there was a time when the Trek cast could have headlined something of this size instead of being just one of many attractions.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 13, 2015 - 8:55 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

I have never understood the autograph thing, even for soundtracks. I would not stand in line for a free autograph, much less and $40 one. The autograph from a Star Trek star, or a composer, just does not have any real value to me. These are just people after all. I guess I am not that much of a fanboy.

 
 Posted:   Jul 13, 2015 - 10:12 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I've never been interested in autographs though I did it once because it was a special occasion. Basically if I liked someones work or performances I would love to sit down and talk to them one on one for hours. Being pushed quickly in line to speak to a celebrity for 10 seconds holds no value for me. Of course many get autographs just so they can turn it around and sell them for triple the cost on Ebay.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 13, 2015 - 10:44 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

I think the only three autographs I have were just bonuses from buying a disc from someone.
I got a Robert Folk autographed from DMD, and I have a Don Davis that I won, and a Laurence Rosenthal Meteor. Never ended up with any Trek autographs.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 13, 2015 - 2:52 PM   
 By:   Mike_J   (Member)

I did a fair number of UK Trek cons in my youth, and along with fellow FSM-erJohn Johnson, we actually acted as video crew for a number of them in the late 80s.

Some of my favourite memories;

Having a few beers with John DeLancie in Brighton - saw him standing by the bar on the Thursday before the con so John and I offered him a beer, which turns into quite a few rounds and some wonderful conversation. He also gave us a name check direct to camera the next day, which was pretty cool.

Filming Patrick Stewart at a con in Birmingham - the first Trek con he ever attended I think. Early on he wanted to dispense with the microphone and took a vote if people were happy with it - 99% of he audience cheered (his voice does carry somewhat), with only the video crew voting against it (for technical reasons). Stewart looked directly to us (ie to the camera), shrugged and apologised to us.

Trouble With Tribbles author David Gerrold asking me and John how long we had been partners! For the record, we never have been in that sense!

 
 Posted:   Jul 13, 2015 - 3:14 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Trouble With Tribbles author David Gerrold asking me and John how long we had been partners! For the record, we never have been in that sense!

I've always believed you and JJ to be "partners"!

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 14, 2015 - 7:24 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

I did a fair number of UK Trek cons in my youth, and along with fellow FSM-erJohn Johnson, we actually acted as video crew for a number of them in the late 80s.

Some of my favourite memories;

Having a few beers with John DeLancie in Brighton - saw him standing by the bar on the Thursday before the con so John and I offered him a beer, which turns into quite a few rounds and some wonderful conversation. He also gave us a name check direct to camera the next day, which was pretty cool.



DeLancie seems like a great guy all around, besides being a really good actor. I imagine a beer and some conversation with him would be pretty interesting. He was Trek's ace in the hole quite a few times.

 
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