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 Posted:   Apr 19, 2010 - 2:24 PM   
 By:   HudsonHawk   (Member)

The original Varese CD from 1995 was a tiddler. Minus the song from the credits all we got was:

1. Main Titles: Dark Territory (02:37)
2. Casey's Family (02:03)
3. Compound Assault (01:47)
4. Access Codes (01:57)
5. Intruder Discovered (04:38)
6. Dead, Not Dead (01:46)
7. The Gates of Hell/Penn's Wish (08:53)
8. Casey's Farewell (00:49)

That adds up to 24:30s of music. I mean...come on!

A complete score would contain.

1. Main Title: Dark Territory (Alt. - 2.42)
2. Main Title: Dark Territory* (2.40)
3. Casey Ryback Returns (.45)
4. Casey's Family* (2.07)
5. Train Departure (.55)
6. Compound Assault* (1.49)
7. Family Regrets (1.00)
8. Helicopter Pursuit (.18)
9. The Hijacking (5.20)
10. Access Codes* (Ext. - 2.36)
11. Grazer One Accessed (1.09)
12. Grazer One Accessed (Alt. - 1.11)
13. View From The Reef (2.43)
14. Back In The Train (.25)
15. Demonstration of Grazer (2.07)
16. Demands (1.34)
17. Preparation / Restoring Power (1.10)
18. Fax / Boom ! / "What Did We Shoot Down ?" (2.15)
19. Shooting Lessons (.25)
20. Shooting Lessons (Alt. - .26)
21. "Your Old Friend, Travis Dane" (Source - 2.16)
22. "Still Smarter" (Source - 2.00)
23. Pentagon (1.05)
24. Intruder Discovered* (Ext. - 4.48)
25. Under The Train (.39)
26. Dead, Not Dead* (1.48)
27. Bait / Bomb (6.56)
28. Cliffhanging (1.21)
29. Recovered Disc (.58)
30. Countdown to Disaster* (Gates of Hell Pt.1 - 1.43)
31. Racing After The Train* (Gates of Hell Pt.2 - 2.10)
32. Ditching The Truck / Back On Board (1.11)
33. Saving Bobby* (Gates of Hell Pt.3 - .41)
34. Changing Tracks* (Gates of Hell Pt.4 - 1.13)
35. Target Shooting (2.15)
36. Hitting The Hostage Cars (2.11)
37. How To Fly (3.54)
38. Penn's Wish* (4.20)
39. Penn's Wish (Alt. - 4.20)
40. High-Tech Bullet / Head On (1.37)
41. Casey's Farewell / After The Train Has Gone* (3.51)
42. Casey's Farewell (Film Version) (1.28)

(*) Contains Previously Released Material

This adds up to 1:26:42. More than an hour extra material.

IMO the score to US2 is some of the best pure action/adventure music ever written. Poledouris' comic-book interpretation with soaring themes for the hero and sinister motifs for the villains is undoubtedly the film's best quality (still a great movie though).

I can only wish...

 
 Posted:   Apr 19, 2010 - 2:56 PM   
 By:   T.J. Turner   (Member)

I agree, I'd like more score from this also, but I wouldn't wish for a 120 mins of it. Maybe 60 min.

 
 Posted:   Apr 19, 2010 - 4:42 PM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

I would probably cool it with these theads, because people might start to hate you if you go too nuts with them.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 19, 2010 - 5:02 PM   
 By:   Michael24   (Member)

Always thought it was a pretty solid action score with a great theme. I love how Poledouris weaves it through so much of the material. I would buy an expanded/complete release of US2 in a heartbeat. smile

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 19, 2010 - 6:02 PM   
 By:   BigMacGyver2000   (Member)

I really love poledouris and this score, but i also have to say that the entire thing can be tiresome to go through because there is not nearly as much variation as in comparable scores such as starship troopers or robocop. A lot of parts from the score feel alike, almost interchangeable. I would still welcome an expansion though and i hope that this cross-fade into the end credits song wont be on any future release again. I just dont like it when score cross fades into a song.

 
 Posted:   Apr 19, 2010 - 8:12 PM   
 By:   Steve Johnson   (Member)

We were gypped at 24 minutes. Well, some were, a friend gave me the cd. big grin Still, 24 minutes= Gyp.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2010 - 2:27 AM   
 By:   Hercule Platini   (Member)

This adds up to 1:26:42. More than an hour extra material.

IMO the score to US2 is some of the best pure action/adventure music ever written.



Maybe it is, but 1:26:42 has to be on two discs and that's going to be more expensive. You could probably cut it down to a more financially viable single disc by dropping the alternate versions and some of the very short tracks (the ones that run less than 30 seconds). Even 76 minutes is probably too long. The fact that a CD can hold that much is no reason for filling it up.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2010 - 9:25 AM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

50 -60 min would be perfect for this score, a big, propulsive thriller from Basil. Agreed that the original CD was a tremendous screw job at 24 minutes of score, the ending song by Segal must have been something contractual, why in the name of all that's good and pure in this world would it have been included otherwise?

But, neither the movie, or the score, seem to have enough of a following to merit an expanded release, sad to say

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2010 - 9:39 AM   
 By:   scrapsly   (Member)

I would gladly buy a two disc set of this score. The movie may not have a big enough following, but I bet Basil Poledouris does. It is all about the music.

 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2010 - 10:42 AM   
 By:   edern   (Member)

IMO the score to US2 is some of the best pure action/adventure music ever written. Poledouris' comic-book interpretation with soaring themes for the hero and sinister motifs for the villains is undoubtedly the film's best quality (still a great movie though).

I can only wish...


Like for Predator 2, I'm with you on this one too !
The action music on Under Siege 2 is terrific, and the way Poledouris "plays" with the themes and motives is a lot of fun. I also like how he kind of "transposed" the fanfare Gary Chang composed for the first movie's final into something far more powerful, epic and catchy.
Varèse's On Deadly Ground and RoboCop 3 releases were also very very brief...

 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2010 - 11:05 AM   
 By:   Maestro   (Member)

Under Siege 2 is my third favourite Poledouris score, after RoboCop and Conan The Barbarian.

It is absolutely terrific music.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2010 - 11:42 AM   
 By:   Michael24   (Member)

50 -60 min would be perfect for this score, a big, propulsive thriller from Basil. Agreed that the original CD was a tremendous screw job at 24 minutes of score, the ending song by Segal must have been something contractual, why in the name of all that's good and pure in this world would it have been included otherwise?

Because it was basically a theme song recorded specifically for the film, and theme songs are typically included on the soundtrack release.

But, neither the movie, or the score, seem to have enough of a following to merit an expanded release, sad to say

The movie was a pretty decent hit when it was released, and I know some fans who consider it one of Seagal's last good movies before he hit his direct-to-video career. I used to think we'd never have an expanded Eraser because I never saw it talked about much, so who knows? I think as several unexpected releases in recent years have shown, just about anything is possible these days. smile

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2010 - 3:46 PM   
 By:   soundwave   (Member)

C'mon Varese let's see this CD in a deluxe ed, and more! wink

 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2010 - 5:52 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Awesome score. Just listened to this and have to say it goes perfectly with Robo Cop. The style is very similar. It will work perfectly as a double bill with RC on a MP3 music disc.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 21, 2010 - 3:00 PM   
 By:   Scorebuff   (Member)

Actually, I'd like to see releases for both Gary Chang and Basil Poledouris' Under Siege scores.

 
 Posted:   Jan 22, 2015 - 2:38 PM   
 By:   The Thing   (Member)

Just watched Under Siege 2, what a great score.

Is this likely to be on anyone's radar for expansion?

So much missing music on the existing CD, and suggestions above of filling up a single CD sound great.

Would this likely be a Varese Club release, or could LLL or Intrada have a go?

 
 Posted:   Jan 22, 2015 - 2:47 PM   
 By:   drivingmissdaisy   (Member)

Nice to see the love you have for this. Varese would have loved to have had a long version back in the day but since this was prior to that AFM under 15,000 units deal they could only do 30 or so minutes like so any of those Varese scores from back in the day. An expanded would be great and I'd love to get a copy. smile

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 22, 2015 - 3:27 PM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

Actually, I'd like to see releases for both Gary Chang and Basil Poledouris' Under Siege scores.

An expanded Under Siege would be bliss. I'm not overly familiar with Poledouris' sequel score, but Under Siege 2 the movie was as bad a sequel as Speed 2 was.

 
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