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 Posted:   Jun 11, 2010 - 1:06 PM   
 By:   ScottDS   (Member)

I came across these special features, rated for the upcoming Alien Anthology Blu-Ray set by the BBFC. (The U.S. doesn't rate bonus materials like we do movies).

http://www.bbfc.co.uk/recent/videos

ALIEN [Additional material, COMPOSER'S ORIGINAL ISOLATED SCORE]
ALIEN [Additional material, FINAL THEATRICAL ISOLATED SCORE]
ALIENS [Additional material, ISOLATED SCORE TRACK BY JAMES HORNER]
ALIEN 3 [Additional material, THEATRICAL ISOLATED SCORE]
ALIEN RESURRECTION [Additional material, THEATRICAL ISOLATED SCORE]

Sounds cool!

 
 Posted:   Jun 11, 2010 - 1:18 PM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

Excellent!

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 11, 2010 - 1:18 PM   
 By:   Michael_McMahan   (Member)

Man, I hope that is really happening!

Having the Alien 3 score isolated would be a dream come true.

Also, it's really pointless to have Jerry's orignal score isolated unless they release the workprint (since most of the tracks don't sync up at all in the theatrical cut)

And the film version of combat drop from ALIENS! Hey, does anyone know if the music where the queen is first revealed is tracked form somewhere else or if it is an actual unreleased cue? It sounds like the main title, where the salvage team boards the Narcissus, but I'm not certain...

 
 Posted:   Jun 11, 2010 - 1:19 PM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

I would guess the isolated track will have Horner's original cues, not the replacement stuff and tracking in the final film version

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 11, 2010 - 1:23 PM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

Man, I hope that is really happening!

Having the Alien 3 score isolated would be a dream come true.


I agree! I'd still like to see it get an official release like Intrada's "Alien" and hope this doesn't diminish that demand.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 11, 2010 - 1:26 PM   
 By:   Michael_McMahan   (Member)

True, a cd would be ideal. But this would certainly take the sting off the wait!

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 11, 2010 - 1:43 PM   
 By:   Dave Norris   (Member)

Also, it's really pointless to have Jerry's orignal score isolated unless they release the workprint (since most of the tracks don't sync up at all in the theatrical cut)

The original DVD release contained both the score as originally intended and as the film version as seperate isolated tracks. Although this didn't happen for the 'Quadology' box set, hopefully Fox will go down this route with the blu ray's.
My concern is that European BD editions of Patton,Sand Pebbles and Tora Tora Tora don't contain the isolated scores (although the Planet of the Apes box set does). Fox really don't like us in the UK!

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 11, 2010 - 1:55 PM   
 By:   Michael_McMahan   (Member)

Also, it's really pointless to have Jerry's orignal score isolated unless they release the workprint (since most of the tracks don't sync up at all in the theatrical cut)

The original DVD release contained both the score as originally intended and as the film version as seperate isolated tracks. Although this didn't happen for the 'Quadology' box set, hopefully Fox will go down this route with the blu ray's.
My concern is that European BD editions of Patton,Sand Pebbles and Tora Tora Tora don't contain the isolated scores (although the Planet of the Apes box set does). Fox really don't like us in the UK!


But those isolated score tracks were largely out of sync because Jerry composed those sequences when the film was paced much differently. What's the point of watching this music isolated if the images aren't what Jerry wrote the music to?

My main point is that it would be great to have the actual workprint released, so we can actually see what Jerry intended with his music.

 
 Posted:   Jun 11, 2010 - 2:00 PM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

Michael is right.

It would be amazing if the disc contained the workprint and the iso score was set to that. I would LOOOOooove to see that.

Same with Horner's ALIENS score, some cues don't line up any more due to last minute editing. Would be cool if they used seamless branching to add/remove footage to make all the music fit as intended

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 11, 2010 - 2:04 PM   
 By:   Martin B.   (Member)

Man, I hope that is really happening!

Having the Alien 3 score isolated would be a dream come true.



Definately. Although I still hope that Intrada or La-La Land can produce a better soundtrack CD at some point.

I know that Fox often misses content off of the UK version because of multiple languages & subtitles but I doubt they would pay to put them through the BBFC if they didn't intend to use them.

This Alien set is going to be awesome.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 11, 2010 - 2:09 PM   
 By:   Avatarded   (Member)


Same with Horner's ALIENS score, some cues don't line up any more due to last minute editing. Would be cool if they used seamless branching to add/remove footage to make all the music fit as intended


I can say that with ALIENS, that's pretty much untrue.

One of my hobbies is to make my own isolated score-type presentations, where instead of editing the music to fit the film, I do the opposite and edit the film to fit the music - but only if it's necessary to do so.

ALIENS was one of the first I ever made (I make them into DVDs) and every cue from The Deluxe Edition fit like a glove, without any revisions to the film at all. It was very, very surprising to learn that they fit so easily.

If the score was restored to Horner's original intention, every cue would fit the film, save for the closing notes of the end titles, but in my presentation I used the alternate for that.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 11, 2010 - 2:12 PM   
 By:   Michael_McMahan   (Member)

That makes sense. Aliens' post production was much more rushed than Alien's. I doubt the 1st cut was much different from the director's cut. Also, there are hardly any stills of scenes deleted that we haven't seen (save for the Burke cocoon scene)

 
 Posted:   Jun 11, 2010 - 2:23 PM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

I can say that with ALIENS, that's pretty much untrue.

One of my hobbies is to make my own isolated score-type presentations, where instead of editing the music to fit the film, I do the opposite and edit the film to fit the music - but only if it's necessary to do so.

ALIENS was one of the first I ever made (I make them into DVDs) and every cue from The Deluxe Edition fit like a glove, without any revisions to the film at all. It was very, very surprising to learn that they fit so easily.

If the score was restored to Horner's original intention, every cue would fit the film, save for the closing notes of the end titles, but in my presentation I used the alternate for that.




Excellent! The blu ray should be something really special then.

If the blu ray does go by the final film score rather than Horner's intentions, though... do you distribute your work?

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 11, 2010 - 2:23 PM   
 By:   Avatarded   (Member)

In terms of director's vs. theatrical cuts, the one scene that featured score for the director's cut used "Dark Discovery / Newt's Horror", since two versions of "LV-426" were made to accommodate whichever version of that scene was used - the extended scene or the simple transition from ship's flyover to wake-up.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 11, 2010 - 2:26 PM   
 By:   Avatarded   (Member)



Excellent! The blu ray should be something really special then.

If the blu ray does go by the final film score rather than Horner's intentions, though... do you distribute your work?


I have tried many, many times unsuccessfully to YouTube my presentations, but they're always hit with the 'content violation' warnings, so I've given up on that.

However, prior to that I simply mailed out the DVDs I made to people. Germany, Hungary, Texas...wherever.

I can dig it up and make a copy, no problem.

 
 Posted:   Jun 11, 2010 - 3:07 PM   
 By:   Timothy J. Phlaps   (Member)

Between this and the new commentary on the Evil Dead disc, it's looking increasingly likely that I'll have to buy a Blu-Ray player in the near future.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 11, 2010 - 3:45 PM   
 By:   Scorebuff   (Member)

Alien 3 Isolated score? *does a happy dance*

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 11, 2010 - 4:12 PM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

I loved the quadrilogy dvd boxset but as soon as I found out they we're going to do new features for the blu-ray set I sold off my dvd's. With this news of the isolated scores, I'm great I did so. Also, the Alien 3 extended version wasn't up to par with the other extended cuts (Alien, Aliens), I hope they'll rectify that for this release.

 
 Posted:   Jun 11, 2010 - 4:19 PM   
 By:   danbeck   (Member)

Fantastic news indeed.
Both ALIEN 3 and ALIEN RESURRECTION deserve deluxe-expanded CDs, but this will be great for the moment.
No news yet on the release date, however.
I also hope the ALIEN 3 making-of includes the material that was supposed omited at the last minute from the quadrilogy DVD because it was supposedly to critical to FOX...

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 11, 2010 - 4:22 PM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)


I also hope the ALIEN 3 making-of includes the material that was supposed omited at the last minute from the quadrilogy DVD because it was supposedly to critical to FOX...


Yes I read about a documentary, the quadrilogy version having parts of it removed because it highlighted the harsh relationship between Fincher and Fox.

Anyone know where that's featured originally? I don't think it was done for the quadrilogy set.

 
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