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 Posted:   Jul 26, 2011 - 8:31 PM   
 By:   Eric Paddon   (Member)

Yeah, there's a high volume of lost sportscasts from that era. One of the most significant games in baseball history, Bill Mazeroski's 1960 WS homer to beat the Yankees only surfaced last year because Bing Crosby (a Pirate part owner) had a kinescope in his wine cellar that had been forgotten.

I have a few late 70s game telecasts with Rizzuto-Messer-White. They are prized items for me. As for Super Bowl I we did learn that a person at home did record an edited version on a primitive machine and the Museum Of TV/Radio has preserved it, but they can't of yet come to an agreement with the NFL on having it reaired or released to the public yet.

 
 Posted:   May 12, 2012 - 11:37 AM   
 By:   neotrinity   (Member)



Monday Nite on PBS Department:





There Can Be Only One Department.


 
 
 Posted:   May 12, 2012 - 6:37 PM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

I am not to hip on using NO 1 when it comes to judging someone in a certain occupation they are in, but if i did, Johnny would be the first i would in his field.a timeless talent, let's hope he is entertaining people somewhere in the realm he is in now and in his audience is his son[for those who don't know Johnny lost his son in a tragic event.]

 
 Posted:   May 12, 2012 - 7:03 PM   
 By:   neotrinity   (Member)



Very astute point, Meester Dee ... and it was something else he and Mr. Martin had
in tragic common ... frown

frown
frown

 
 Posted:   May 14, 2012 - 10:14 AM   
 By:   neotrinity   (Member)



smile 2NITE wink Department:



big grin

 
 
 Posted:   May 14, 2012 - 12:20 PM   
 By:   mnrvason   (Member)

Thanks for the heads-up, Neo! I'll be sure to look it up!

SheriffJoe

 
 
 Posted:   May 16, 2012 - 9:43 AM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

On some old cassette tapes i have or had some Johnny Carson opening speeches and comic skits from his shows years like 72 thru76 etc, but while those may not be lost like alot of the 60's ones, it's a shame they are not available to buy or be seen. Like TV sitcoms wouldn't it be nice if they put out a complete Dvd set that has every skit or opening speech from his show that is not lost?

 
 
 Posted:   May 16, 2012 - 10:37 AM   
 By:   filmusicnow   (Member)

So true, Neo. In the world of television, just about *everything* that represented a historical document of the age we were living in, was among the first stuff consigned to the dumpster or the equally impersonal area of tape recycling. That's why when things do surface and can be experienced again, the excitement is like that of an archeologist who just found something at a dig site. And like in archeology, you sometimes have to settle for fragments like when only a few minutes of a lost telecast resurfaces, or if only select cues from a lost score are found ("Satan Bug").

The vigor of the search and the chase for that lost material can never let up. Because while most of the time it leads to frustration, the times when it hits paydirt more than compensate.



An interesting thing is that when Ed Sullivan, Jackie Gleason and Red Skelton all were under contract to C.B.S., they received kinescope copies of their shows, which was in their contracts (though Sullivan didn't get the full rights to his shows until the mid '60s). Hence, this explains Gleason's "Lost Episodes" of "The Honeymooners".

 
 Posted:   May 16, 2012 - 6:05 PM   
 By:   neotrinity   (Member)



What we'd trade all the lapis-lazuli found in young Olde King Tut's tomb for is a complete run of all the eps
The Vidalian



made on both of these enterprising gents' programs before (by Mr. Cavett's own admission) the former
became roll eyes unofficially blacklisted by the networks mad during the last few decades.

Dose were da days, indeed. And definitively In Deed.

 
 
 Posted:   May 19, 2012 - 5:24 PM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

Did Johnny Carson ever appear in a movie or TV drama?

 
 Posted:   May 19, 2012 - 5:40 PM   
 By:   Altamese   (Member)

Did Johnny Carson ever appear in a movie or TV drama?

According to the IMdB, he guested on Playhouse 90 in an ep called Three Men on a Horse - which sounds like a comedy, and a couple of episodes of the United States Steel Hour - which I think were dramas.

(Other than that he had only a handful of guest-shots on the comedy shows of the day (Steve Allen, ack Benny, Get Smart.)

It's a bummer that a lot of the YouTube videos posted in the older posts in this thread have been taken down due to copyright infringement - I'd have loved to have seen them.

 
 
 Posted:   May 19, 2012 - 9:23 PM   
 By:   filmusicnow   (Member)

Did Johnny Carson ever appear in a movie or TV drama?

According to the IMdB, he guested on Playhouse 90 in an ep called Three Men on a Horse - which sounds like a comedy, and a couple of episodes of the United States Steel Hour - which I think were dramas.

(Other than that he had only a handful of guest-shots on the comedy shows of the day (Steve Allen, ack Benny, Get Smart.)

It's a bummer that a lot of the YouTube videos posted in the older posts in this thread have been taken down due to copyright infringement - I'd have loved to have seen them.



He also appeared on the "Jerry Lewis Telethon" in 1975 (possibly at the suggestion of his [and Lewis'] cohost Ed McMahon).

 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2012 - 2:55 PM   
 By:   neotrinity   (Member)

smile

big grin

wink

 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2012 - 6:50 PM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Truly the only really funny late night talk show host. Those that followed get more groans than laughs from the audiences. That should tell you something.

 
 Posted:   Jun 17, 2012 - 12:40 AM   
 By:   Eric Paddon   (Member)

I wouldn't say the only funny late night host. Steve Allen was the one who pioneered the basic format (and it has to be noted he also created some of the routines that Johnny would later repackage for himself. Carnac the Magnificent is Steve Allen's "Question Man" in a turban). Jack Paar refined it into the aspect of stressing the chatting at the couch. Johnny ended up perfecting the strengths of his predecessors and at the same time being more relaxed with none of the prickly mercurialness of Paar that caused him to burn out after five years.

 
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