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 Posted:   Jun 28, 2010 - 11:08 AM   
 By:   sdtom   (Member)

I was going thru some of my lp's and came upon this 50's release on RCA of Alex North. Pretty darn good. It got me to thinking if there were unreleased tracks of this session.
http://sdtom.wordpress.com/?p=790
Thomas

 
 Posted:   Jun 28, 2010 - 1:08 PM   
 By:   Recordman   (Member)

See discussion of "American Road" on "North of Hollywood" at this thread:
http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=28213&forumID=1&archive=1

 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2012 - 9:48 AM   
 By:   lexedo   (Member)

And additional discussion here (regarding "American Road" and "The Misfits"):
http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=30202&forumID=1&archive=1

The limited-edition Gold RCA Living Stereo CD can be had here:
http://store.acousticsounds.com/d/3353/Alex_North-North_of_Hollywood-Gold_CD

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2012 - 3:36 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

The limited-edition Gold RCA Living Stereo CD can be had here:
http://store.acousticsounds.com/d/3353/Alex_North-North_of_Hollywood-Gold_CD



I wonder if that new gold CD has noticeably superior sound to the old 1988 release:

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2012 - 3:48 PM   
 By:   .   (Member)

I wonder if that new gold CD has noticeably superior sound to the old 1988 release


If they've done something in the mastering like adding some warmth or ambience it might, but that would be nothing at all to do with it being gold. If it was, copying the gold CD to a (supposedly) inferior non-gold CDR, or even importing it to iTunes and a non-gold hard drive, would presumably result in inferior sound (which it won't). The only thing the gold enhances is their ludicrous price.

 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2012 - 4:25 PM   
 By:   lexedo   (Member)

The limited-edition Gold RCA Living Stereo CD can be had here:
http://store.acousticsounds.com/d/3353/Alex_North-North_of_Hollywood-Gold_CD



I wonder if that new gold CD has noticeably superior sound to the old 1988 release:



Hi Bob D - The most recent release is from 2002, and is on RCA BMG Spain 74321984102. It was produced by the same fellow that did Mancini "Touch of Evil" for Fresh Sounds, Jordi Pujolos (sp?). The gold CD I believe was issued in 1998 as part of the RCA Living Stereo series, and that's RCA LSPCD 1445.

I'll provide feedback shortly about Gold vs. Spain.

 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2012 - 4:53 PM   
 By:   lexedo   (Member)

I wonder if that new gold CD has noticeably superior sound to the old 1988 release


If they've done something in the mastering like adding some warmth or ambience it might, but that would be nothing at all to do with it being gold. If it was, copying the gold CD to a (supposedly) inferior non-gold CDR, or even importing it to iTunes and a non-gold hard drive, would presumably result in inferior sound (which it won't). The only thing the gold enhances is their ludicrous price.


Very respectfully Mr. W., you have to remember that when you copy a CD to your drive, your computer converts the CD source (redbook CDDA) to something your computer can understand, like wav's. This is done via a decoder. More often than not, an image of a CD that you create on your machine will be different than one I create on my machine due to things like drive-types, decoder used, etc. So, what you store on your drive is not exactly what is on the CD. It's a converted version.

Maybe try the MFSL Steely Dan Aja or Wynton Marsalis' Columbia debut -- both worlds better than their respective AL counterparts. But this may have had something to do with remastering, etc. Same with Mysterious Film World of Bernard Herrmann and the old Decca CD. Or Stevie Wonder's Innervisions. I have 10 or 12 gold CDs, and each is superior to it's AL counterpart. Sadly, this is mostly subjective on my part, and not likely to convince you or others.




 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2012 - 4:59 PM   
 By:   lexedo   (Member)

I'll provide feedback shortly about Gold vs. Spain.

Both CDs have the bad fade-out on Jody's Lament (track 13). I wonder why Spain didn't fix this?

The sound is crisp in both, maybe just ever so slightly better on the RCA Spain. So, there's probably some ProTools tuning on the RCA Spain, but again, very very subtle. Side-by-side, the signals are almost identical for each track. As an example, on 4 Deuces, I can hear the clarinet player take a breathe just before the 7s mark on both CDs - they're the same essentially.

For the money, get the RCA Spain.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2012 - 7:01 PM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

Girls and ladies bought that one because of Marlon Brando's picture.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2012 - 8:24 PM   
 By:   .   (Member)

Maybe try the MFSL Steely Dan Aja or Wynton Marsalis' Columbia debut -- both worlds better than their respective AL counterparts. But this may have had something to do with remastering, etc. Same with Mysterious Film World of Bernard Herrmann and the old Decca CD. Or Stevie Wonder's Innervisions. I have 10 or 12 gold CDs, and each is superior to it's AL counterpart. Sadly, this is mostly subjective on my part, and not likely to convince you or others.


There are any number of remasters that sound better than older versions. It's nothing to do with whether they're on gold CDs or not. It's a lot of nonsense. I've no doubt you have 10 or 12 gold CDs that sound better than "standard" CDs released decades ago, but it's nothing to do with them being gold. There might be evidence that different materials can affect longevity/consistency of manufacture etc, but a gold CD and a normal CD made at the same time from the exact same master will be indistinguishable.

 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2012 - 11:13 AM   
 By:   lexedo   (Member)

...but a gold CD and a normal CD made at the same time from the exact same master will be indistinguishable.

Again, respectfully, AU reflects light more accurately than AL does. If you are not willing to accept this fact of Maxwell's electromagnetics, then the debate is moot anyway, Mr. W.

The "subjectivity" in my offering was due to my not having a suitable "side-by-side" comparison to analyze.

But I've created a "mock" sandbox, as it were. I've ripped an image of an AL CD (viz., North of Hollywood). I then ripped that created image to a CDR, which has a chemical surface that behaves similarly to emulsion. I then created an image from the CDR. I then compared on a bit-by-bit basis the image from the AL CD with the image from the CDR. There were subtle, yet very distinguishable, differences between the two. That this could translate into audible differences to the human ear remains to be seen. But the data is distinguishably different, and this indicates that there are audible differences between the two formats, as negligible as those differences may be. Please conduct this very same experiment yourself to prove the point.

Insofar as the cost of gold CDs is concerned, I've never paid any more than I would for any of our film score sets. As an example, I recently purchased Stevie Wonder's Songs in the Key of Life as 2 gold CDs for $29.99, which is the exact same amount I paid for Mancini's Moneychangers 2CD set. The MFSL organization has gone bankrupt, as I am aware, even though every title they ever produced was a quick sell-out. This information does not support the notion that their organization engages in deceptive marketing practices relative to gold-plated CDs.

Hoping you realize that I am just trying to share information regarding the technology.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2016 - 2:11 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

I recently picked up this album. It has long eluded me, although I had "Floozie" on one of the Crime Jazz CDs. Totally digging it. The Streetcar tracks sound amazing. Sonically, it reminds me of 1950s mono Capitol recordings, which are some of the best ever.

 
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