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 Posted:   Jun 29, 2010 - 7:07 PM   
 By:   jigawatts   (Member)

Ok, I really hate to do this, because I love James Horner, and I'm afraid this will turn into a bashing thread (I hope not), but I just have to point something out. I was listening to the track "Kung Fu Heaven" and I kept thinking, "I KNOW I've heard this before". I was scanning through all my other scores trying to remember where I'd heard it before and then it dawned on me. I heard in John Debney's "Crucifixion" track on The Passion of the Christ.

Listen to this from about 0:30 to the end:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVsVkXHmm3U

and then listen to this from about 5:00 until about the 5:50 mark:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQmGs3L1bvs

Sound more than just a little bit similar? But I still love most of his work. smile

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 29, 2010 - 7:41 PM   
 By:   amatalqa   (Member)

Debney copied that from Horner's Glory, which probably copied it from someone else long before either of them.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 29, 2010 - 7:49 PM   
 By:   jigawatts   (Member)

Ahhh, yes, "Burning the Town of Darien". How could I forget, that's my favorite track on Glory.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 29, 2010 - 8:44 PM   
 By:   c8   (Member)

Its Vaughn Williams "Fantasia on a Theme by Thomas Tallis"

Its everywhere in film music, most famously as David Arnold's Stargate theme!

Horner also used it as the love theme in Troy (where he was accused of ripping off Arnold, interestingly enough).

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2010 - 3:55 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Its Vaughn Williams "Fantasia on a Theme by Thomas Tallis"

Its everywhere in film music, most famously as David Arnold's Stargate theme!.


What he said. Those "hymnal chords" have been used in music for CENTURIES. Not only film music, but also classical music. Vaughan Williams wasn't the first either. It goes way back...Palestrina operates with some of them too, as well as most early church music. It's one of my particular favourite sounds, one I label "The Religious Sound". I did a thread on it here:

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=35916&forumID=1&archive=0

I love Horner's version of it in that track; I only wish it lasted longer than a minute!

 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2010 - 8:39 AM   
 By:   drivingmissdaisy   (Member)

Any news on this score, if it's available on regular CD in some other part of the world?

 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2010 - 8:43 AM   
 By:   DeputyRiley   (Member)

Debney copied that from Horner's Glory, which probably copied it from someone else long before either of them.

Wha??? Really? So-and-so copied such-and-such from so-and-so, who probably copied it from so-and-so etc. etc. etc.

Like in the 3rd grade.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2010 - 11:57 AM   
 By:   Avatarded   (Member)

Debney copied that from Horner's Glory, which probably copied it from someone else long before either of them.

Wha??? Really? So-and-so copied such-and-such from so-and-so, who probably copied it from so-and-so etc. etc. etc.

Like in the 3rd grade.


But people love to do it anyway around here.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 1, 2010 - 12:24 AM   
 By:   scoresofscores   (Member)

Any news on this score, if it's available on regular CD in some other part of the world?

I would think so. Ninja Assassin was released by Sony in Europe but a CD-R here. I am sure there are other examples but it would make sense Sony would put this on regular CD in other parts of the world.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 30, 2010 - 3:07 PM   
 By:   BrenKel   (Member)

Just saw the film tonight with my family! We all loved it. Pure entertainment! Which is what I needed after a hard week.
James Horner did a fantastic job.....why, oh why is this not getting a proper CD release?

 
 Posted:   Jul 30, 2010 - 6:58 PM   
 By:   Mr Greg   (Member)

I ordered the CDR from Amazon.com and had it imported to the UK for less than the price of a normal UK chart CD....was pleasantly surprised with what turned up - looks like just a regular old CD with all printing properly done etc.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2010 - 11:15 AM   
 By:   BrenKel   (Member)

Thanks for mentioning that. i have been wandering what to expect. How long did it take from ordering to arrive at your door?

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 12, 2010 - 2:35 PM   
 By:   BrenKel   (Member)

At last! The CD for Karate Kid arrived today. Very surprised with this CDR product in that it looks exactly like a regular CD. so I have no problem with it.

The music is what counts.....and what music it is! A fantastic score with a brilliant theme - I think the 10 minute "From Master To Student To Master" is superb!

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 12, 2010 - 2:41 PM   
 By:   jigawatts   (Member)

Thanks, that IS good to know. I have been hesitant to order this because I thought it would be just a cheap CD-R in a paper sleeve.

 
 Posted:   Aug 12, 2010 - 2:43 PM   
 By:   johnjohnson   (Member)

I placed my order along with a copy of The Forbidden Kingdom.

 
 Posted:   Nov 7, 2010 - 4:34 PM   
 By:   KevinSmith   (Member)

This is another quintessential Horner drama score, and it's a good thing. Wonderfully dramatic moments in the last 30 minutes accented by good character underscore in the first half of the album.

Rating: Four stars.

 
 Posted:   Nov 7, 2010 - 4:48 PM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

This score put me to sleep at first, but since seeing the movie I've really appreciated it and have listened to it multiple times.

 
 Posted:   Nov 7, 2010 - 8:56 PM   
 By:   FilmMusicFan   (Member)

I think JAMES HORNER did a great job on KARATE KID. The movie was surprisingly good as well.

But why we don't have a CD released in Europe? What a shame! frown

 
 Posted:   Nov 8, 2010 - 8:42 AM   
 By:   Lokutus   (Member)

Has anyone checked the source the CD comes from?
I had been unpleasantly surprised discovering some deffects in MP3 files are also present in the CD-R release. frown

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 8, 2010 - 12:24 PM   
 By:   BrenKel   (Member)

My CD that I ordered from Amazon is fine. I have had no problems with it.

The Karate Kid is an excellent score!

 
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