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Apr 22, 2020 - 12:34 PM
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Dana Wilcox
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When I was little, I always thought Harry Chapin sounded like he was pissed off. Cat Stevens too.
I was correct.
Don't know anything about Chapin, but given what Cat Stevens became, it's no wonder the guy is full of hate.
That you "don't know anything about Chapin" is painfully clear. Being "pissed off" about some things -- selfishness, exploitation, apathy -- does not equate to being "full of hate." Quite the contrary, on both cases. So what exactly did Cat Stevens "become"? Both Chapin and Stevens were (or are) passionate, deeply caring people with great talent. Harry Chapin, icymi, died decades ago in an automobile accident. It would be hard to build much of a case for him being full of hate in the present tense. Personally, I like to think that I know a fact or two about something rather than just spewing ignorance about it on a public forum. (But that's just me, of course. To each his own.)
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Apr 22, 2020 - 2:50 PM
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Jim Phelps
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When I was little, I always thought Harry Chapin sounded like he was pissed off. Cat Stevens too.
I was correct.
Don't know anything about Chapin, but given what Cat Stevens became, it's no wonder the guy is full of hate.
That you "don't know anything about Chapin" is painfully clear. Being "pissed off" about some things -- selfishness, exploitation, apathy -- does not equate to being "full of hate." Quite the contrary, on both cases. So what exactly did Cat Stevens "become"? Both Chapin and Stevens were (or are) passionate, deeply caring people with great talent. Harry Chapin, icymi, died decades ago in an automobile accident. It would be hard to build much of a case for him being full of hate in the present tense. Personally, I like to think that I know a fact or two about something rather than just spewing ignorance about it on a public forum. (But that's just me, of course. To each his own.)
Sorry about that. I was referring to Cat Stevens, not Harry Chapin. I see that what I wrote--only the third sentence you quoted above is mine--would lead the reader to believe I was referring to Chapin; I was not.
Coincidentally, that earlier post was written at 5:50am (my time) and this reply was at 5:50pm. It was a bit early, even for the hours I keep. 
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Apr 22, 2020 - 4:03 PM
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OnyaBirri
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That you "don't know anything about Chapin" is painfully clear. Being "pissed off" about some things -- selfishness, exploitation, apathy -- does not equate to being "full of hate." Quite the contrary, on both cases. So what exactly did Cat Stevens "become"? Both Chapin and Stevens were (or are) passionate, deeply caring people with great talent. Harry Chapin, icymi, died decades ago in an automobile accident. It would be hard to build much of a case for him being full of hate in the present tense. Personally, I like to think that I know a fact or two about something rather than just spewing ignorance about it on a public forum. (But that's just me, of course. To each his own.)
Wow, you certainly handled that gingerly! I hear the UN is looking for mediators. You should apply.
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Apr 22, 2020 - 4:18 PM
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Octoberman
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No apology needed, Jim--I got what you meant perfectly.
It was my clumsy wording that made you think I was lumping the 2 together--I just wanted to make the associated comment on Chapin.
I remember, quite some time ago, reading a fair bit about how much of what Cat said about Rushdie was not only misquoted but also taken out of context.
Whether that's true or not, I could easily see an over-zealous reporter doing that--trying to connect the dots between Muslim extremism and Cat's fairly recent conversion.
But who knows?
I suppose one could also say that recent converts tend to be overzealous.
Has Cat Stevens ever clarified what he meant? He's had over 30 years to do so.
I just realized that you were originally responding to Dana and not me, Jim, sorry 'bout that.
Boy, there's something to be said for reading skills.
But to your last question, yes, I think he did clarify that he was speaking of the fatwa as it relates strictly to the confines of that faith--and that he, personally, did not feel anyone deserved to be killed.
I should look up all that stuff again. It was fascinating--plus I want to be sure of what I'm spouting off about before I actually do.
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Apr 24, 2020 - 3:24 PM
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Dana Wilcox
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When I was little, I always thought Harry Chapin sounded like he was pissed off. Cat Stevens too.
I was correct.
Don't know anything about Chapin, but given what Cat Stevens became, it's no wonder the guy is full of hate.
That you "don't know anything about Chapin" is painfully clear. Being "pissed off" about some things -- selfishness, exploitation, apathy -- does not equate to being "full of hate." Quite the contrary, on both cases. So what exactly did Cat Stevens "become"? Both Chapin and Stevens were (or are) passionate, deeply caring people with great talent. Harry Chapin, icymi, died decades ago in an automobile accident. It would be hard to build much of a case for him being full of hate in the present tense. Personally, I like to think that I know a fact or two about something rather than just spewing ignorance about it on a public forum. (But that's just me, of course. To each his own.)
Sorry about that. I was referring to Cat Stevens, not Harry Chapin. I see that what I wrote--only the third sentence you quoted above is mine--would lead the reader to believe I was referring to Chapin; I was not.
Coincidentally, that earlier post was written at 5:50am (my time) and this reply was at 5:50pm. It was a bit early, even for the hours I keep.
No worries. My apologies for the tone, which was not warranted. One day perhaps I will learn not to respond to postings late at night.
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