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 Posted:   Sep 5, 2010 - 2:47 PM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

What movies opened with a concert piece or suite before the main titles?

Here's the ones I can remember:

Ben Hur (?)
Westside Story
Black Hole
Star Trek The Motion Picture

 
 Posted:   Sep 5, 2010 - 2:51 PM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

It's an Overture.

There are numerous examples. Endless list.

 
 Posted:   Sep 5, 2010 - 2:55 PM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Endless list.

Well your lazy. ;-)

 
 Posted:   Sep 5, 2010 - 3:08 PM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

Sodom and Gomorrah
The Ten Commandments
Spartacus
Cleopatra
Julius Caesar
Anthony and Cleopatra
King of Kings
Ben-Hur
Quo Vadis?
Fall of the Roman Empire
El Cid
Man of La Mancha
Mutiny on the Bounty
The Alamo
How the West was Won
Gone With the Wind
Khartoum
Fifty-Five Days at Peking
Doctor Zhivago
Lawrence of Arabia
Ryan's Daughter
Oh, What a Lovely War

Many scores have concert overtures arranged long after the film's releases, for album treatments. Some, like 'Spartacus' or 'Spellbound' have cut'n'paste affairs.

 
 Posted:   Sep 5, 2010 - 3:17 PM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Thxs! Didn't realize there were so many. I'm considering putting together an Overture compilation for myself. (and I was just naturally curious)

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 5, 2010 - 3:23 PM   
 By:   James MacMillan   (Member)

HAWAII

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 5, 2010 - 4:23 PM   
 By:   CLaFong99   (Member)

2001: A Space Odyssey!

 
 Posted:   Sep 5, 2010 - 5:01 PM   
 By:   increbula   (Member)

Here is a substantial list courtesy of Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_films_with_overtures

And these 1961 Toho films also had excellent overtures:

MOTHRA
THE LAST WAR

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 5, 2010 - 5:24 PM   
 By:   mrscott   (Member)

Yes but how many actually end with an Overture?

 
 Posted:   Sep 5, 2010 - 5:29 PM   
 By:   increbula   (Member)

Yes but how many actually end with an Overture?

The technical term is "exit music". Many of the films that have overtures also have exit music (as well as intermission music), but unfortunately I can't find a specific list...

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 5, 2010 - 5:33 PM   
 By:   zooba   (Member)

ICE STATION ZEBRA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0Y67cYrnfA

THE MERRY WIVES OF WINDSOR

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4A-t3UqeRn8&p=F0FAD41E5112682B&playnext=1&index=6

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 5, 2010 - 5:49 PM   
 By:   mrscott   (Member)

Yes but how many actually end with an Overture?

The technical term is "exit music". Many of the films that have overtures also have exit music (as well as intermission music), but unfortunately I can't find a specific list...


Thanks, I think I got it. I recently watched a movie called Overture which didn't have an Overture at the beginning but it sounded like it had one somewhere in the middle.

 
 Posted:   Sep 5, 2010 - 7:31 PM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

2001: A Space Odyssey!

Really? Ive seen the film many times and I just don't remember that. Guess I will have to pop in my Blu Ray.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 5, 2010 - 7:56 PM   
 By:   Bill Cooke   (Member)


DUEL IN THE SUN

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 5, 2010 - 8:34 PM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

but it sounded like it had one somewhere in the middle.

That would be an entre'acte.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 5, 2010 - 9:08 PM   
 By:   mrscott   (Member)

but it sounded like it had one somewhere in the middle.

That would be an entre'acte.


No, entreacte is a French desert made with snails.

 
 Posted:   Sep 5, 2010 - 10:44 PM   
 By:   Sigerson Holmes   (Member)

but it sounded like it had one somewhere in the middle.

That would be an entre'acte.


No, entreacte is a French desert made with snails.



There are no deserts in France.

But to try and stay on topic a little, I wonder in how many films (it may be thousands more) the "overture" occurs during the main titles. A brief arrangement of tunes to be heard in the underscore which follows is, after all, an overture for all practical purposes, isn't it?

Sure, you're not staring at a blank screen or the word "OVERTURE" over a pretty picture, and the arrangement may not have a formal ending, but rather a transition right into the music for the opening scene . . . but it's STILL sort of an overture, isn't it?

 
 Posted:   Sep 5, 2010 - 10:52 PM   
 By:   Senojanaidni   (Member)

GREYSTOKE
the first track of the lp was the MUSIC OVERTURE when i saw the movie some years ago.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 5, 2010 - 11:13 PM   
 By:   Jameson281   (Member)

I recently discovered an Overture for a film not previously known to have an Overture, and this board played a role in that discovery. It's not an original piece, just an editing together of part of the Main Title with part of the End Title, with perhaps part of a third cue used as a bridge, suggesting that the Overture was a last-minute idea to try to lend the film an extra touch of class in some engagements. I hope to be able to share the full story within the next few weeks.

 
 Posted:   Sep 5, 2010 - 11:35 PM   
 By:   Sigerson Holmes   (Member)

. . . I hope to be able to share the full story within the next few weeks.


Oh, boy! Does this mean you have "insider info" on an important imminent CD release?!

 
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