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 Posted:   Sep 24, 2010 - 2:43 PM   
 By:   Robert0320   (Member)

I remain optomistic that now that Varese has cracked Universal's vault, Skinner will get his due. While I believe that much of the tracks from the 40s and 50s no longer exist, perhaps the 60s do. I am encouraged by the 4 Goldsmith titles. So in Skinner's case that would give us BACK STREET (1961) THE UGLY AMERICAN (1963) CAPTAIN NEWMAN, M.D. (1964) SHENANDOAH (1965) MADAME X and THE APPALOOSA (both 1966) and THE RIDE TO HANGMAN'S TREE (1967). I would buy any or all of these titles in a heartbeat as Skinner is one of my favorites.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2010 - 4:46 PM   
 By:   filmusicnow   (Member)

I remain optomistic that now that Varese has cracked Universal's vault, Skinner will get his due. While I believe that much of the tracks from the 40s and 50s no longer exist, perhaps the 60s do. I am encouraged by the 4 Goldsmith titles. So in Skinner's case that would give us BACK STREET (1961) THE UGLY AMERICAN (1963) CAPTAIN NEWMAN, M.D. (1964) SHENANDOAH (1965) MADAME X and THE APPALOOSA (both 1966) and THE RIDE TO HANGMAN'S TREE (1967). I would buy any or all of these titles in a heartbeat as Skinner is one of my favorites.


It would be interesting that since "Back Street", "Shenandoah", and "Madame X" were released as albums, they might do expanded editions with additional music.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2010 - 4:56 PM   
 By:   shureman   (Member)

Didn't someone mention that many of Skinner's record masters are missing?

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2010 - 5:36 PM   
 By:   manderley   (Member)

I'm in for ANY releases of Skinner's Universal music!

Bring it on---westerns, dramas, action films, and soap operas!

.....I'll turn up the volume to override my sobs, and get out my box of Kleenex to absorb my tears, as I listen to the music from the soapy Ross Hunter films!!!

No one suffered with more glamour than the Ross Hunter stars. smile

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2010 - 10:21 PM   
 By:   filmusicnow   (Member)

Hmm..I wonder if the same applies to "Slaughter On Tenth Avenue", which was released by Decca, with Richard Rodgers' ballet adapted masterfully into a film score by Herschel Burke Gilbert (who, interestingly, received an Oscar nomination for arranging Rosgers' then partner Oscar Hammerstein II's music for the film adaptation for "Carmen Jones" the year before). I would love see a straight or expanded C.D. reissue of the original album (if the masters exist).
It was the only score by Gilbert not conducted by him (it was conducted by then Universal music department head Joseph Gershenson).

 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2010 - 10:27 PM   
 By:   Basil Wrathbone   (Member)

Hmm..I wonder if the same applies to "Slaughter On Tenth Avenue", which was released by Decca, with Richard Rodgers' ballet adapted masterfully into a film score by Herschel Burke Gilbert.


I hope so!

 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2010 - 10:28 PM   
 By:   Basil Wrathbone   (Member)

duplicate. Sorry!

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2010 - 10:51 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

I remain optomistic that now that Varese has cracked Universal's vault, Skinner will get his due. While I believe that much of the tracks from the 40s and 50s no longer exist, perhaps the 60s do. I am encouraged by the 4 Goldsmith titles. So in Skinner's case that would give us BACK STREET (1961) THE UGLY AMERICAN (1963) CAPTAIN NEWMAN, M.D. (1964) SHENANDOAH (1965) MADAME X and THE APPALOOSA (both 1966) and THE RIDE TO HANGMAN'S TREE (1967). I would buy any or all of these titles in a heartbeat as Skinner is one of my favorites.

Also post-1960 from Skinner are:

Tammy and the Doctor (1963)
Bullet for a Badman (1964)
The Sword of Ali Baba (1965)

 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2010 - 11:19 PM   
 By:   Stefan Huber   (Member)

Nobody considered it worthwile to release any of the Herrmann titles from Universal thus far - so think about the chances for Skinnerfrown

 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2010 - 11:34 PM   
 By:   Josh Mitchell   (Member)

duplicate. Sorry!



That's what their mom said.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2010 - 6:23 AM   
 By:   Robert0320   (Member)

Also post-1960 from Skinner are:

Tammy and the Doctor (1963)
Bullet for a Badman (1964)
The Sword of Ali Baba (1965)

These re-used music from previous Skinner scores.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 21, 2012 - 11:08 AM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

The stereo LP of Frank Skinner's BACK STREET was made available as a download early in 2011.

http://www.amazon.com/Fannie-Hursts-Back-Street-Soundtrack/dp/B004NA5PJO/ref=sr_1_31?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1335031338&sr=1-31

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 21, 2012 - 2:25 PM   
 By:   Turntable   (Member)

I say bring on more Skinner CD's, for sure! Certainly those Ross Hunter masterpieces, such as "Backstreet" and "Madame X" would be lovely to own on CD. The LP's are quite short, so I wonder how much extra material is on the original tapes?

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 21, 2012 - 3:38 PM   
 By:   manderley   (Member)

......The stereo LP of Frank Skinner's BACK STREET was made available as a download early in 2011.....


I have to say, I have made CDR transfers of the stereo version of BACK STREET on four different occasions, from four different legitimate copies released with different MCA or Decca labels, pressed in several different countries---and not one of them sounded like true stereo.

I think this was a fake stereo job.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 21, 2012 - 4:15 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

......The stereo LP of Frank Skinner's BACK STREET was made available as a download early in 2011.....


I have to say, I have made CDR transfers of the stereo version of BACK STREET on four different occasions, from four different legitimate copies released with different MCA or Decca labels, pressed in several different countries---and not one of them sounded like true stereo.

I think this was a fake stereo job.


I agree that there is little stereo spread. And the online samples are full of pops and burbles from the lousy LP that they used as a source.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 21, 2012 - 6:58 PM   
 By:   manderley   (Member)

......And the online samples are full of pops and burbles from the lousy LP that they used as a source.....

"Burbles"......Are those anything like "Tribbles," or are they more like "Trebles"?

I think I'll wait for a legit version of BACK STREET and, if the masters still exist, maybe they're in true stereo.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 21, 2012 - 11:40 PM   
 By:   MMM   (Member)

Also post-1960 from Skinner are:

Tammy and the Doctor (1963)
Bullet for a Badman (1964)
The Sword of Ali Baba (1965)

These re-used music from previous Skinner scores.



In reality...

TAMMY AND THE DOCTOR used a lot of music by Percy Faith from TAMMY TELL ME TRUE, as well as having old music by Herman Stein, Henry Mancini, Skinner, and many, many others. It was an entirely-tracked score, with over a hundred individual pieces of music.

BULLET FOR A BADMAN featured tracked music by Stein, Salter, Skinner, Mancini, Irving Gertz, and William Lava. Skinner only wrote about 40% of the music heard in the movie, and none of it was original.

THE SWORD OF ALI BABA contains music by Skinner, Salter, Stein, Lava, and Mancini, 144 cues in all, and Skinner's music takes up less than half the score.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 22, 2012 - 10:56 AM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

I think I'll wait for a legit version of BACK STREET and, if the masters still exist, maybe they're in true stereo.


Well, we've only waited 30 years for a CD so far. I suppose we can all wait another 30. On the other hand, if Disques CineMusique were to include this 50-year-old recording on their next 2-fer LP transfer CD, they could count on at least one sale.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 22, 2012 - 1:07 PM   
 By:   shureman   (Member)

I just listened to a mint, unplayed MCA LP labeled as "stereo" and it most assuredly is only mono. Great score, though.

 
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