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I know this is a risky move and we're sure to end up with a banned discussion of religion if we're not all VERY CAREFUL.
And yet...
I still thought I should post a link to this lengthy article on Scientology. It focuses on writer/director Paul Haggis and his defection from the religion. http://is.gd/GqCMum
It's in the New Yorker and I link to it here because of several mentions of Mark Isham, who remains a Scientologist and worked with Haggis.
I think the article does all the Scientology bashing one might reasonably need to read, so there's no point in rehashing it here on the boards. Offered up only for the interested.
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I myself have no issue with politics/religion discussions at all as I can stay calm and cool about all of it, but many can't, so it's good to have that little rule in place. Funny thing about that, I can't remember where I was, but it was a bar and the bartender was talking or something and he said the two things I don't talk about here, at the bar, politics and religion, so it's not just this forum, but many other places these two debates can really get people going. It would be great if we all could talk about this stuff and remain calm and cool and actually listen to one another, but we can't. I think it's human nature, we want others to be like us. My quote I have used for years is, "too much of ANYTHING is bad." And that includes the "R" word. When you find out you have diabetes and you go directly to the book to find the cure, you've jumped ship a long time ago. I kid you not, I have seen this very example in my life, trust me.
Isham is part of that group, darn it darn it. Come on Isham, get away from Cruise and get back on the Trumpet.
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I saw this in today's New Yorker (online edition) as well. But as a regular New Yorker subscriber, I'll wait a day or so to get the actual magazine in my mailbox. Thanks for the heads up on this though!
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Goldsmith was Jewish as his music ROCKED!!!
Lots of other composers were Jewish and their music ROCKED!!!
John Williams is not Jewish (as far as I know) and his music ROCKS!!!
Isham is a Scientologist and I have many of his scores that ROCK!!!
Thanks for sharing, but I've never heard a composers' music that was determined by his religion.
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Goldsmith was Jewish as his music ROCKED!!!
Lots of other composers were Jewish and their music ROCKED!!!
John Williams is not Jewish (as far as I know) and his music ROCKS!!!
Isham is a Scientologist and I have many of his scores that ROCK!!!
Thanks for sharing, but I've never heard a composers' music that was determined by his religion.
Ever hear of Bach?
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Who did he support? (Liverpool or Everton?) 
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Feb 11, 2015 - 8:59 AM
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pete
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I'm talking about destructive cults of personalities - all of which use remarkably similar methods to recruit, indoctrinate, control, retain, and exploit members. There are literally hundreds and thousands of examples of which Scientology is one.
Whatever Obama is or isn't, he's not a cult leader ala Hubbard, Miscavige, the Rev. Moon, and the lovely Kim clan in North Korea.
Religious fanaticism, which you seem to be hinting at, isn't necessarily cultic in nature. They can simply be extreme beliefs. The definition of destructive cults doesn't involve beliefs, but rather the practices of a group again in terms of exploitation of members. Essentially the enrichment of the leadership at the expense of members. And there's nothing at all religious about that except that some cults cloak themselves in religion. Think organised crime.
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Feb 11, 2015 - 9:10 AM
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Solium
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I'm talking about destructive cults of personalities - all of which use remarkably similar methods to recruit, indoctrinate, control, retain, and exploit members. There are literally hundreds and thousands of examples of which Scientology is one.
Whatever Obama is or isn't, he's not a cult leader ala Hubbard, Miscavige, the Rev. Moon, and the lovely Kim clan in North Korea.
Sure in some cases there's a sole central leader, in the others the power is shared. But the methods are the same.
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Good answer!
