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 Posted:   Mar 3, 2011 - 1:04 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Doubtful that any of you have seen this pretty graphic rape/revenge thriller from last year, but it was certainly a surprisingly shocking film to me. I think it's a remake of some sort?

I've always loved the rape/revenge film, but here it's executed with pretty intense and gruesome detail - both the rape and assault scenes themselves as well as the revenge bits. It isn't really torture porn, but it certainly has some of Michael Haneke's or Gaspar Noë's uneasiness and drawn-out intensity about it.

The DELIVERANCE-like setting is pretty effective too, with a girl inhabiting a cabin far out in redneck territory. Performances vary somewhat, though....the girl and the bad ass sheriff are OK, but some of the other rednecks are a little too stereotypical.

I've never heard of Corey Allen Jackson before (since this is an indie film, there are relatively unknown people both behind and in front of the camera), but I was impressed by the score. Very effective thriller music which combines the obligatory stingers and drones with some weird dissonant string textures not that unlike Chris Young.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2011 - 1:41 PM   
 By:   quiller007   (Member)



GOBSMACKINGLY OOF!

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2011 - 1:45 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Doubtful that any of you have seen this pretty graphic rape/revenge thriller from last year, but it was certainly a surprisingly shocking film to me. I think it's a remake of some sort?

Yes, it's a remake. And it's undoubtedly unwatchable as was the original.
They even copied the poster art from the original. I never cared for these
rape/revenge flicks getting passed off as "horror". They're not.
They're just sick. LAST HOUSE ON THE LEFT is another from that ilk.

Den


I don't think anyone ever claimed they were horror films. The rape/revenge film is as old as the film medium itself, and one I've always found extremely interesting. In fact, the revenge film more generally is one of my favourite genres. It challenges your whole moral sense and plays upon our identification process with the characters.

 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2011 - 1:55 PM   
 By:   Hercule Platini   (Member)

I've seen it twice now (both times at festivals). I think it's just about okay, although the original is absolutely foul; it achieves a far better balance between the rape and the revenge (in the original version the revenge sequences were almost perfunctory addons). I didn't notice the score at all.

http://streetrw.blogspot.com/2010/09/i-spit-on-your-grave.html

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2011 - 2:05 PM   
 By:   quiller007   (Member)

I don't think anyone ever claimed they were horror films. The rape/revenge film is as old as the film medium itself, and one I've always found extremely interesting. In fact, the revenge film more generally is one of my favourite genres. It challenges your whole moral sense and plays upon our identification process with the characters.


There's absolutely nothing wrong with "revenge" films.
I just don't see any need for extremely graphic and detailed
depictions of rape and torture. But who am I to judge?
I like Brian De Palma films - the director who's most
been accused of being a misogynist. I also like the
Italian horror films (aka Giallos). So, enjoy! smile

Den

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2011 - 2:33 PM   
 By:   Michael24   (Member)

The remake made me think that's what the Lifetime channel would be like if they weren't on Basic Cable. LOL! Seriously, the acts of revenge in this film were so completely over-the-top and just down-right ridiculous that, frankly, they made the victim just as despicable and unsympathetic as her attackers. I love a good revenge film, but this was just garbage.

 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2011 - 3:21 PM   
 By:   SheriffJoe   (Member)

The remake made me think that's what the Lifetime channel would be like if they weren't on Basic Cable. LOL! Seriously, the acts of revenge in this film were so completely over-the-top and just down-right ridiculous that, frankly, they made the victim just as despicable and unsympathetic as her attackers. I love a good revenge film, but this was just garbage.

Corey actually scored my own short film, "The Pact." He has a great aesthetic (not that I am biased or anything) and is an amazingly gifted composer (as well as a wonderful young man). He cut his teeth with Christopher Lennertz and was actually introduced to me through Chris, for which I am ever grateful.

I hope Corey gets a lot more work and is allowed to show what he can do with an excellent film (not because I'm biased, but because I really think he's more than capable). Perhaps I should try to introduce him to Nicholas Meyer. Hmmm....

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2011 - 3:30 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

The remake made me think that's what the Lifetime channel would be like if they weren't on Basic Cable. LOL! Seriously, the acts of revenge in this film were so completely over-the-top and just down-right ridiculous that, frankly, they made the victim just as despicable and unsympathetic as her attackers.

That's the whole point of the rape/revenge film if it's done right. You identify with the protagonist that first goes through all the ordeals, and is then torn between satisfaction as she takes revenge while at the same time questioning her actions. It's the whole purpose of the genre, forcing us to take a look at our own modes of identification and moral sense.

I've seen better rape/revenge films than this, for sure, but I loved the intensity and graphicness of it, and how effective it was in making its points.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2011 - 4:28 PM   
 By:   quiller007   (Member)

Thor's future marriage:

HUSBAND: "I'm kinda bored, no, down in the dumps. I feel like watching
something that will lift my spirit".
WIFE: "How about THE LOVE BUG?"
HUSBAND: "I said something to 'lift my spirits', not make me all goo-goo".
WIFE: "How about THE FRENCH LIEUTENANT'S WOMAN?"
HUSBAND: "ZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzz."
WIFE: "How about RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK? You always like action."
HUSBAND: "Meh. I'm too tired for all that adreneline."
WIFE: "OH! I know...How about a gruesome, misogynistic rape-revenge
flick? The main character gets repeatedly gang-raped, beaten and tortured
senseless by a group of filthy thugs! It's called I SPIT ON YOUR GRAVE!"
HUSBAND: "There's the ticket!"
WIFE: "LET'S!"

Den

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2011 - 5:34 PM   
 By:   VietnamVet   (Member)

Strange, but somehow this film (the original) really stuck with me over the years. I believe this film had a particular casteration scene in which the damsel in distress "lured" one of the "bad-guys" into her tub while taking a bath and slipped a butcher knife beneath the suds. The ensuing carnage was VERY disturbing (especially the first cut!).......Oh Hell, I don't know, it may have been another film, but I sure do remember that particular scene!!

 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2011 - 7:40 PM   
 By:   Holly Mitchell   (Member)

Viewed the original release over a decade ago (at least). While the visuals and sequences were not jaw dropping, the theme and plot that the *original* film portrayed *DID* make its mark. It reminded me (as Den mentioned) of Last House on the Left, to a great degree.

Ironically, I snapped a pic of "I Spit on Your Grave" last year in my Comic-con photos. **There was a "I Spit on Your Grave" booth.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2011 - 8:05 PM   
 By:   quiller007   (Member)

Viewed the original release over a decade ago (at least). While the visuals and sequences were not jaw dropping, the theme and plot that the *original* film portrayed *DID* make its mark. It reminded me (as Den mentioned) of Last House on the Left, to a great degree.

Ironically, I snapped a pic of "I Spit on Your Grave" last year in my Comic-con photos. **There was a "I Spit on Your Grave" booth.



YOU watched I SPIT ON YOUR GRAVE? Horrors! eek wink

Den

 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2011 - 9:10 PM   
 By:   Holly Mitchell   (Member)

YOU watched I SPIT ON YOUR GRAVE? Horrors! eek wink
Den


A long, long, time ago...Joshua worked for a retailer that stocked *various* films. Many were B's and imports, and this was a film (the original) that was kept (regularly) within inventory.

As for the score, I have no recollection? (Again, this is in re: to the original film.)

I guess I now have some brushing-up to do?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2011 - 10:57 PM   
 By:   quiller007   (Member)

A long, long, time ago...Joshua worked for a retailer that stocked *various* films. Many were B's and imports, and this was a film (the original) that was kept (regularly) within inventory.


I was half joking. I guess I'm still kinda surprised at the number of women
I've run across on various forums over the years, who actually like
these types of films. I don't know any personally. The women
I know (or have known) like action films, supernatural horror,
classic-style low-key murder mystery thrillers.
But graphic horror gore, rape, torture, etc....no. I'm a guy, and I
can't stomach stuff like I SPIT ON YOUR GRAVE. Hell, I'm a Charles
Bronson fan and I refuse to watch the DEATH WISH films. The first
one I can handle. But the rest..forget it! I don't like all those
"cannibal" and zombie movies either. Too yucky for my tastes.

Den

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 4, 2011 - 12:37 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

Strange, but somehow this film (the original) really stuck with me over the years. I believe this film had a particular casteration scene in which the damsel in distress "lured" one of the "bad-guys" into her tub while taking a bath and slipped a butcher knife beneath the suds. The ensuing carnage was VERY disturbing (especially the first cut!).......Oh Hell, I don't know, it may have been another film, but I sure do remember that particular scene!!

No, it wasn't another film...

A pal of mine some decades ago owned a video store, and he wheeled out I Spit On Your Grave (and The Executioner) for a stag evening. Eye-openers, in those far-flung days. That bath scene has stayed with me, too, sort of like an "alternate porcelain-ware" version of people who won't have showers since watching Psycho.

Oddly, we don't have a bath in the house now, having replaced it with a large shower installation the other year. I don't really miss it, but I'm not sure I can blame an old "video nasty" for our bathroom design.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 4, 2011 - 12:52 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

But graphic horror gore, rape, torture, etc....no. I'm a guy, and I
can't stomach stuff like I SPIT ON YOUR GRAVE. Hell, I'm a Charles
Bronson fan and I refuse to watch the DEATH WISH films. The first
one I can handle. But the rest..forget it! I don't like all those
"cannibal" and zombie movies either. Too yucky for my tastes.

Den


That's fine. To each their own. Personally, I love to get in touch with ALL aspects of my emotional life, not only conventional films with happy endings. I also like to challenge these emotional aspects and your whole moral orientation with regular intervals. That's the kind of experience that makes you grow as a humanbeing; i.e. not shielding" oneself from certain elements of life.

Besides, it's just film. Most of the time, reality can be much, much crueler (the Fritzl case in Austria, for example, which seems far more cruel than any screenwriter could come up with).

Gaspar Noë's IRREVERSIBLE is another example of this, as is Nagisa Oshima's IN THE REALM OF THE SENSES. Spectactors left while I watched both of these (especially the rape scene in the former), but I found it totally hypnotizing in all its controversy and gross-ness. Certainly makes you think about things.

 
 Posted:   Mar 4, 2011 - 1:04 AM   
 By:   AMRA75   (Member)

Anyway, the music of this remake is fine in the movie... I don't know if I'll buy it just because it is absolutely not original. You heard that kind of soundtrack too often. By the way, I don't remember any music in the original "I spit on your grave"... maybe because there is no music??

About the remake, it is less disturbing than the original one. Yes, it is more graphic... but in the original one, the woman becomes a sexual predator (that is disturbing... she's not only killing the rapers but also playing sexually with them)... not here.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 4, 2011 - 1:29 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

If I had known this was a remake, I would have checked out the original first, for sure. I'll put it on the backburner now.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 4, 2011 - 6:36 AM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

I like controversial movies. I enjoy how they kick up strong emotions and spark furious debate, even if I don't necessarily like the actual movie itself. I like the original "I Spit On Your Grave" a lot. Guess I'll have to check out the remake. Unfortunately, I have no doubt the gore level will have been kicked up a notch.

Thor mentions Gaspar Noë's "Irreversible". Good example. For me it's not so much the rape scene that's hard to watch, harrowing though it is, as it is the murder at the fetish bar at the beginning. I have to single that out because it's one of the most realistic and seamless uses of CGI I've ever seen. I still can't figure out how they did it.

Strangely enough, "Cannibal Holocaust" and similar films generally don't do anything for me. I guess I can tolerate gratuitous grue if it serves a compelling (or, at least, interesting) story. But I suppose what a person finds compelling is also subject to change from time to time.

 
 Posted:   Mar 4, 2011 - 12:32 PM   
 By:   Charles Thaxton   (Member)

"hey you said rape twice"


 
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