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 Posted:   Mar 29, 2017 - 4:00 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

There were scores of outstanding, creative technicians in Hollywood during the "golden Age but....
the Production Code was so proscriptive, so moralistic , that it was was near impossible for writers and directors to create good drama ( I said "near" impossible)smile.

Imagine what Wilder and co. could have produced with out it . It boggles the mind!

Musicals and comedies (and fantasy) are what hold up best and can still be enjoyed by modern audiences because the code wasn't as damaging to those genres.

I know some people still love old Hollwood , but in your heart you know I'm right
bruce

 
 Posted:   Mar 29, 2017 - 4:04 PM   
 By:   judy the hutt   (Member)

sad to read. I loved his films and laughed so hard at Some Like it Hot.

The Apartment was also one of my favorites. There were others.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 29, 2017 - 10:00 PM   
 By:   Preston Neal Jones   (Member)

In my mind, my heart thinks you're partly right, partly wrong.

There's no denying that a lot of unfortunate nonsense was perpetrated on Hollywood product by the Breen (& Hayes) Office, and some movies were compromised more than others, but a blanket dismissal of other than musicals, comedies and fantasies belies the enthusiastic crowds that will be descending on this town in a few days for the TCM Festival, to say nothing of the great variety of movies which screen year 'round at the Academy, museums and revival houses. I think it's also true that some art and artists thrive under certain proscribed conditions and parameters, and in the wrong hands license can be abused just as easily as censorship. Lubitsch, for one, (and later Wilder, for two) never needed to spell things out in order to get their points across. (One of my own favorite movie-watching pleasures would be denied to me if there had never been a production code: I refer to the clever ways some writers and directors snuck some delicious transgressions right past the censors' noses.)


[REVISED FOR TYPOS, 3/30/17]

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 31, 2017 - 5:06 AM   
 By:   Regie   (Member)

You are so right! These great directors used subtle means of conveying what was going on. I'll never forget that scene in "Ninotchka" where the cigarette girls keep going into the room where Iranov, Bulyanov and Kapolski are carousing until late at night. What elegance in that scene. Later when the three introduce Ninotchka to the cigarette girls she chimes, "gentlemen, you must have been smoking a lot!!"

ABSOLUTE GOLD. I adore the films of Wilder and Lubitsch and the writing of Izzy Diamond and Co.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 31, 2017 - 10:29 AM   
 By:   Preston Neal Jones   (Member)

And Charles Brackett!

(Anthony Slide has recently edited an indispensable book.)

https://www.amazon.com/Its-Pictures-That-Got-Small/dp/0231167083/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1490977797&sr=1-1&keywords=anthony+slide+charles+brackett

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 31, 2017 - 3:38 PM   
 By:   Regie   (Member)

And Charles Brackett!

(Anthony Slide has recently edited an indispensable book.)

https://www.amazon.com/Its-Pictures-That-Got-Small/dp/0231167083/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1490977797&sr=1-1&keywords=anthony+slide+charles+brackett


Yes, of course, Charles Brackett!! (Seniors' moment!). Thanks for the excellent reference; I've ordered it already!

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 1, 2017 - 2:13 AM   
 By:   Preston Neal Jones   (Member)

My pleasure. So has been reading the book. Enjoy.

 
 Posted:   Apr 21, 2018 - 6:39 PM   
 By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)

Joan Collins in her book "Second Act" quotes Wilder, when he is talking to Kirk Douglas.

Douglas is worried that audiences will not be interested to see his new movie, LUST FOR LIFE (http://filmscoremonthly.com/cds/detail.cfm/CDID/220/Lust-for-Life/)

Wilder replied that simply everyone who owns a Van Gogh will be going, so "don't worry!"

Gawd what a talent that man was.

 
 Posted:   Apr 21, 2018 - 8:25 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

15 years ago... frown

......before I was born ( on this board).

 
 Posted:   Oct 5, 2019 - 6:02 PM   
 By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)

Wilder wanted what film to be his last, and pursued the rights to the book?


Schindler's List. Oh my but that would have been wonderful.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2019 - 10:52 AM   
 By:   filmusicnow   (Member)

Among the composers Wilder would work with were Miklos Rozsa, Franz Waxman, Frederick Hollander, Adolph Deutsch and Sir Andre Previn.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2019 - 3:30 PM   
 By:   James MacMillan   (Member)

Among the composers Wilder would work with were Miklos Rozsa, Franz Waxman, Frederick Hollander, Adolph Deutsch and Sir Andre Previn.


Hugo Friedhofer, yet...

 
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