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I was just listening to the Milan album of The Jungle Book and have to admit enjoying it FAR more than I did when I last heard it like 15 years ago. At that point I only liked the second half of Track 2 which is till awesome in my book. I guess music does age like wine. I remember hearing a couple people requesting an expanded album. I'm open to it now. I remember reading one of Doug's posts at Intrada that they were mixing some 24 Tracks masters from Disney and Universal. Maybe their love for good ol' basil might make an expanded album of The Jungle Book a reality in the near future.
Anyone here familiar with the score in the film care to comment on the extras?
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Because we really are in a different generation of film scoring, and it will be interesting to hear a solid action/adventure score without any of the normal Powell, Zimmer and Remote Control influences. It might actually be a breath of fresh air..
Amen to that! :-)
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May 17, 2011 - 3:08 PM
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Always have to comment on a thread about this score. Barring the usual suspects, this is probably THE holy grail for me in terms of expanded releases. The film and score both hold a warm place in my heart, going back to a childhood fondness for both. It's a wonderful score, full of the kind of Romantic, period adventure atmosphere that makes the film so enjoyable.
As to the extras, Kevin, well... Poledouris said that he recorded 88 minutes of music for the film. The OST contained 48 minutes of music, leaving 40 minutes unreleased. I put together my own personal edit of the score using the OST and DVD rips of the film and the behind the scenes featurette, and I estimate that, not counting the instances of tracked music within unreleased cues, there is a whopping 13 minutes of unused music, out of the 40 unreleased!
There is part of an "unused cue" that can actually be heard dialed down in the rear channels as Mowgli sneaks towards the palace to meet Kitty. In the featurette, there is brief footage of a deleted sequence showing Mowgli going through the city before that, and I suspect that this music in the rear channels is the ending of the cue written and recorded for that sequence. I believe that the majority of the unused music, however, is for the trek through the jungle in the last act of the film. It sounds like the music for Colonel Brydon crawling through the jungle is faded in, indicating there was music between that scene and the preceding quicksand scene.
I hope a complete release is in the near future. The score definitely deserves it.
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Always have to comment on a thread about this score. Barring the usual suspects, this is probably THE holy grail for me in terms of expanded releases. The film and score both hold a warm place in my heart, going back to a childhood fondness for both. It's a wonderful score, full of the kind of Romantic, period adventure atmosphere that makes the film so enjoyable.
As to the extras, Kevin, well... Poledouris said that he recorded 88 minutes of music for the film. The OST contained 48 minutes of music, leaving 40 minutes unreleased. I put together my own personal edit of the score using the OST and DVD rips of the film and the behind the scenes featurette, and I estimate that, not counting the instances of tracked music within unreleased cues, there is a whopping 13 minutes of unused music, out of the 40 unreleased!
There is part of an "unused cue" that can actually be heard dialed down in the rear channels as Mowgli sneaks towards the palace to meet Kitty. In the featurette, there is brief footage of a deleted sequence showing Mowgli going through the city before that, and I suspect that this music in the rear channels is the ending of the cue written and recorded for that sequence. I believe that the majority of the unused music, however, is for the trek through the jungle in the last act of the film. It sounds like the music for Colonel Brydon crawling through the jungle is faded in, indicating there was music between that scene and the preceding quicksand scene.
I hope a complete release is in the near future. The score definitely deserves it.
Wow! Thanks for sharing your thoughts on The Jungle book (TJB) . My ultimate Holy Grail was Independence Day until it was released last year in expanded form. I only started posting on the boards late last year, but if I had started much earlier, my comments on ID4 would have had the passion and heart as you have shown for TJB. I remember being captivated by the trailer music to TJB (which I later found was nicely edited music from McNeeley's Iron Will). I bought TJB album thinking that music would be on it. Perhaps that's why I never was never taken by it until now. I was ready! :-)
You mentioned that there is roughly 13 out of the 40 mins that's unique unreleased music. So you feel that the remaining 27 mins or so consist of repeated of material that's already on the album? Thanks again for sharing your enthusiasm on the score.
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May 18, 2011 - 1:11 AM
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Musicman416
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You misunderstand. Poledouris recorded 88 minutes of score. Of these 88, 48 made it to the OST. Of the 40 minutes not included on the OST album, at least 13 minutes were not used in the film. I say at least, because there are portions of music heard in the film that were tracked, replacing music that went unused.
One thing I forgot is that the featurette includes a short piece of music that sounds like an adaptation of part of one of the unreleased cues from the film, and I believe it was written and recorded either for a trailer or for the featurette itself.
With regards to the validity of the unreleased music: some really nice thematic development and underscore is missing, including Mowgli's slide down the hill (which was tracked into the waterfall jump), the music leading up to the "Mowgli" track (which, on CD, is made up of portions of two different cues), and the gorgeous statement of the love theme from the dance at Dr. Plumford's party. That just scratches the surface, but without going into a thorough breakdown, I can say that there is definitely good stuff missing, and a complete CD would absolutely be worthwhile.
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You misunderstand. Poledouris recorded 88 minutes of score. Of these 88, 48 made it to the OST. Of the 40 minutes not included on the OST album, at least 13 minutes were not used in the film. I say at least, because there are portions of music heard in the film that were tracked, replacing music that went unused.
One thing I forgot is that the featurette includes a short piece of music that sounds like an adaptation of part of one of the unreleased cues from the film, and I believe it was written and recorded either for a trailer or for the featurette itself.
With regards to the validity of the unreleased music: some really nice thematic development and underscore is missing, including Mowgli's slide down the hill (which was tracked into the waterfall jump), the music leading up to the "Mowgli" track (which, on CD, is made up of portions of two different cues), and the gorgeous statement of the love theme from the dance at Dr. Plumford's party. That just scratches the surface, but without going into a thorough breakdown, I can say that there is definitely good stuff missing, and a complete CD would absolutely be worthwhile.
Ah, I understand now. I just need to rent this sucker and watch it. :-) Thanks again! :-)
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Listened to the Main Title again yesterday.
What a wonderful, joyous piece of music!
It starts out with an octave leap, Elgarian melody then segues into a delightful scherzo.
Another great touch is Basil's inventive use of counterpoint.
I cant believe Riotengine sold his copy  !!!!!!
check it out!
bruce
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bruce
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Sometimes we get a second chance in life to make things right!
bruce
That would make a great tag line for a movie!!
LOL!
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Like the earlier posts above attest, I too never really clicked with this score when I first bought it (it was BASIL POLEDOURIS...I Bought Everything By Him).
It had the typical Basil sweep and ferocity where required, but seemed to be missing that vital hook and sounded too disparate, thematically for me, to get a full handle on.
Replaying it now, after quite a good few years, I'm not gonna say it has replaced the likes of BIG WEDNESDAY or CONAN or RED DAWN or...(you get my drift) as one of the Best Ever Basil Poledouris scores, but it does contain some seriously great passages of play, in that lovely, lyrical BP mode.
I still find the main theme a bit...I dunno, just there...like an idea of a theme, never completed or fulfilled.
But the incidental scoring is really good and offers up lots of interest to the attentive ear.
I think I used to play it and just expect something to happen.
But it's not that type of score.
Attention to detail is the order of the day, to peel away the layers and extract the level of detail going on behind the notes.
Jerry Goldsmith was supposed to score the film, but replacement work on THE RIVER WILD kept him away.
This is the only film by Stephen Sommers to feature a Basil Poledouris score (he worked extensively with Goldsmith & Alan Silvestri).
It's interesting to read that just over half the score is on the Milan CD (48 mins of a potential 88 mins).
I wonder how the complete work might play?
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I found it a reaaaally boring score...
The movie was far worse!
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