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 Posted:   Jul 14, 2011 - 9:05 AM   
 By:   Elite   (Member)

Just seen a 15 minute behind the scenes movie on the set of Dario Argento's Dracula 3D, he mentions Claudio Simonetti scoring the pic, so that was a huge relief...

Simonetti is a true legend

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 14, 2011 - 9:40 AM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)


Simonetti is a true legend


Agreed! I'm curious to see how well 3D & Argento will match.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 14, 2011 - 10:20 AM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

And the film is being edited by this board's very own Carl LaFong aka Marshall Harvey!

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 14, 2011 - 10:43 AM   
 By:   Elite   (Member)

When I first knew he would be doing this, my jaw dropped ( in horror) as it really wasn't anything new from him. But after viewing the footage and music, I am agreeably happy with the result so far

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 14, 2011 - 11:33 AM   
 By:   CLaFong   (Member)

Elite:

I am indeed in Northern Italy near the town of Ivrea shooting Dracula 3D.
Claudio Simonetti is definitely the composer. We have already started sending him
some edited scenes.

Look for German actor Thomas Krutschmann (King Kong, The Pianist) to be a handsome
but very menacing vampire. But the real break through star will be the beautiful
Spanish actress Marta Gastini as Mina. The 3D is looking very good. Dario is
really using it for maximum effect without getting too 'gimmicky'. Luciano Tovoli
(Susperia, The Passenger, Reversal of Fortune) is shooting. Krutschmann has
called it 'splatter Visconti'. They are going for a real classic look.

The behind the scenes footage you saw on the website is awful IMO and should
be taken down. It is all from the first week of production and is very badly put
together. I'm hoping they will replace it soon with much better footage.

The thousand year old castle we have started shooting in this week is kick ass perfect.
On the first night shoot there was a huge storm at 3am. As we left, driving down the
very narrow, windy cobblestone path in the pouring rain, I looked back up at the
castle. It was backlit by the constant lightening. It looked EXACTLY like an old
Corman Poe picture!

marshall

 
 Posted:   Jul 14, 2011 - 1:59 PM   
 By:   spook   (Member)

Oh man...I so want to believe this will be good! I've been a huge Dario Argento fan over the years but his last few films have been..well, painful to watch. The only saving grace has often been the music and even in the last one (GIALLO) even that wasn't great.
Its sad to see someone you worshipped over the years plummet but i guess i can still dare to pray that DRACULA will be his comeback film ( although....ANOTHER version of DRACULA!!) At least Simonetti gives me hope...but then again.... even the great master Ennio Morricone couldn't save PHANTOM OF THE OPERA!

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 14, 2011 - 2:16 PM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)


Its sad to see someone you worshipped over the years plummet but i guess i can still dare to pray that DRACULA will be his comeback film ( although....ANOTHER version of DRACULA!!)


I agree about Giallo being a letdown (though definitely better than Card Player), but his Master of Horror episodes 'Jenifer' and 'Pelts' were to me as much a comeback as Carpenter's Cigarette Burns episode for the series. Carpenter has made what I consider to be one of the best movies he's done in a while with "The Ward", I have my fingers crossed that we'll see another great entry from Argento. The gothic and romantic subject matter of Dracula is right up his alley smile

@ mr. Harvey; keep the gore at acceptable levels big grin

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 16, 2011 - 1:04 PM   
 By:   Dan Azevedo   (Member)

I used to enjoy some of Argento's work until 10 or 15 years ago, when his films became devoid of any redeeming features whatsoever. "The Phantom of the Opera", "The Stendhal Syndrome", "The Card Player", "Giallo", "The Third Mother" -- the scores could be interesting, but the films were all so disappointing. I honestly don't think he has anything left to say and wish he would retire already. It is downright embarassing by now. The great cinematography days of "Suspiria", "Inferno" and "Opera" are gone...

And, come on, doing "Dracula"? And in 3D? Who greenlighted this?

I don't mean to be rude, Marshall. I wish you all the best with this project. It's just that I lost my faith in Argento a long while ago. On the other hand, this week I had the opportunity to watch Joe Dante's terrific "Homecoming", which you edited. What a striking piece of horror! There's an example of a director who's still finding new and arresting things to say.

 
 Posted:   Aug 18, 2011 - 3:40 AM   
 By:   Grimsdyke   (Member)

Shooting completed now !!

 
 Posted:   Aug 18, 2011 - 11:52 AM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)


I don't mean to be rude, Marshall. I wish you all the best with this project. It's just that I lost my faith in Argento a long while ago. On the other hand, this week I had the opportunity to watch Joe Dante's terrific "Homecoming", which you edited. What a striking piece of horror! There's an example of a director who's still finding new and arresting things to say.


Well, I always hope for the best in a new film by Argento (been disappointed lately, but still love his early Giallos and Suspiria, Opera, etc.) but speaking of Dante when the hell will we see The Hole?! IMDb says it's been at a number of festivals in the US, but has only had theatrical and DVD releases in Europe! It's maddening!!

 
 Posted:   Aug 18, 2011 - 1:25 PM   
 By:   spook   (Member)


I don't mean to be rude, Marshall. I wish you all the best with this project. It's just that I lost my faith in Argento a long while ago. On the other hand, this week I had the opportunity to watch Joe Dante's terrific "Homecoming", which you edited. What a striking piece of horror! There's an example of a director who's still finding new and arresting things to say.


Well, I always hope for the best in a new film by Argento (been disappointed lately, but still love his early Giallos and Suspiria, Opera, etc.) but speaking of Dante when the hell will we see The Hole?! IMDb says it's been at a number of festivals in the US, but has only had theatrical and DVD releases in Europe! It's maddening!!


Really? THE HOLE hasn't been out in the US? Saw it ages back and, while it had its faults,really enjoyed it. Really enjoyed the Javier Navarette score as well. Maybe thats why the score never appeared in any form, if it never got a big US release.
Back on topic, like i said i really hope for this project but i can't imagine what Mr Simonetti is going to come up with for this. If it has an authentic gothic period feel i can't see the usual stuff from him ( which i love, by the way!) working. Looking forward to seeing what he comes up with.

 
 Posted:   Aug 18, 2011 - 2:43 PM   
 By:   David Kessler   (Member)

I liked Argentos Non-ho-sonno (Sleepless) and his both M.of.H episodes but other than that, Opera and trauma was his last great pics...
I hope Dracula will be good thou as hauer and kretchman are in it, Simonetti doing the music and vampires European style always turns up great smile
I have fate in this (and I agree that DanteĀ“s homecoming was fabulous edited smile

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 18, 2011 - 7:50 PM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

It sounds very interesting, but like others i don't feel Dario has ever been as good as he was in the 70's with Suspiria he reach his apex, hopefully he has regain his touch with this one, i tell you, Dracula it just never dies, i guess when you think about it that theme which goes back to the beginning of sound film, and before is just about the most popular film character in history[maybe not at the B.O,[Bond] but as far as longevity.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 18, 2011 - 8:00 PM   
 By:   quiller007   (Member)

I agree with most of you who prefer Argento's work from the 70's.
That said, I do like some of his post 70's work. He's made 10 films
that I like:

THE BIRD WITH THE CRYSTAL PLUMAGE
THE CAT O'NINE TAILS
FOUR FLIES ON GREY VELVET
DEEP RED
SUSPIRIA
INFERNO
TENEBRE
TRAUMA
SLEEPLESS
DO YOU LIKE HITCHCOCK?

I didn't care for the others: PHENOMENA, OPERA, THE STENDHAL SYNDROME,
PHANTOM OF THE OPERA, THE CARD PLAYER, MOTHER OF TEARS
I haven't seen GIALLO yet, so I have nothing to say about that one.

Den

 
 Posted:   Aug 19, 2011 - 1:48 AM   
 By:   spook   (Member)

I agree with most of you who prefer Argento's work from the 70's.
That said, I do like some of his post 70's work. He's made 10 films
that I like:

THE BIRD WITH THE CRYSTAL PLUMAGE
THE CAT O'NINE TAILS
FOUR FLIES ON GREY VELVET
DEEP RED
SUSPIRIA
INFERNO
TENEBRE
TRAUMA
SLEEPLESS
DO YOU LIKE HITCHCOCK?

I didn't care for the others: PHENOMENA, OPERA, THE STENDHAL SYNDROME,
PHANTOM OF THE OPERA, THE CARD PLAYER, MOTHER OF TEARS
I haven't seen GIALLO yet, so I have nothing to say about that one.

Den


You honestly liked DO YOU LIKE HITCHCOCK? I watched this again about a month ago and, apart from the great Pino Donaggio score (PLEASE someone release this!) i think its a wretched mess with flashes of Argento style but hopeless plotting and acting. PHENOMENA was great, if not completely bonkers and STENDHAL i always felt was very underated. Amazing hypnotic Morricone score for STENDHAL.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 19, 2011 - 2:02 AM   
 By:   quiller007   (Member)

You honestly liked DO YOU LIKE HITCHCOCK?

Yes.

great Pino Donaggio score (PLEASE someone release this!)

I concur!

i think its a wretched mess with flashes of Argento style but hopeless plotting and acting.

Not enough blood and guts for ya? big grin I didn't see anything messy or hopeless
about it. To me, it's a true return to his pre DEEP RED films - the "animal trilogy" -
in that the style (and bloodletting) is far more subtle than all of his films that
followed. To each their own though. Besides, the women in this one were all
babes. smile Fun movie!

Den

 
 Posted:   Aug 19, 2011 - 2:25 AM   
 By:   Grimsdyke   (Member)

I hope for great visuals and blood and that he inspires Claudio Simonetti to write another amazing score like TERZA MADRE !!

As for the movie. I just saw a short interview with Argento in which he explained that Dracula is after Mina because she looks exactly like his true love when he was still 'alive'.
So the same nonsense that Coppola did. Too bad.

I am of course aware that in Stoker's book there is also no 'real' reason given why Dracula leaves Transilvania - but love ??
Why not portrait him as a 'conqueror' looking for new territories or something like that ??

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 19, 2011 - 3:22 AM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

I hope for great visuals and blood and that he inspires Claudio Simonetti to write another amazing score like TERZA MADRE !!

Same here, I thought that Simonetti was the one person on that movie who came prepared. Such a disappointment otherwise and a rush job considering Argento had that much time after Inferno.


I am of course aware that in Stoker's book there is also no 'real' reason given why Dracula leaves Transilvania - but love ??
Why not portrait him as a 'conqueror' looking for new territories or something like that ??


I say stick to the Stoker storyline as close as possible, and knowing Argento's affinity for literary horror I doubt he'll do otherwise.

Some behind the scenes footage on the official site (love that Rutger Hauer's in it!):

http://www.dracula3d.it/

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 19, 2011 - 3:57 AM   
 By:   Elite   (Member)

I feel that every craftsman in his or her later life becomes void of any new ideas and challenges, but instead tries to incorporate ideas which have already been done by themselves. Dario Argento is a true genuis and his work has always influenced me since i was 17. But, I do think that his greatest achievment may yet still come and with his love and innovation for cinema and horror, this can only be a good thing.

With his unsurrpased works such as: SUSPIRIA, TENEBRE & 4 FLIES ON GREY VELVET, his style & technique are like no others and will be sadly missed once he no longer makes movies. Goblin on the other hand were founded by Argento and easily marketed them to cult and classic status. Dracula 3D looks very simple, but effective. Some beautiful camera movements and visual flair truly show why he is who he is.

 
 Posted:   Aug 19, 2011 - 5:16 AM   
 By:   spook   (Member)


Not enough blood and guts for ya? big grin I didn't see anything messy or hopeless
about it. To me, it's a true return to his pre DEEP RED films - the "animal trilogy" -
in that the style (and bloodletting) is far more subtle than all of his films that
followed. To each their own though. Besides, the women in this one were all
babes. smile Fun movie!

Den


Lol!... no actually I totally agree with you about the bloodletting. I've been a bit saddened by Dario's recent high gore content. His films were always about a very styalised kind of violence and the blood content often looked kind of unreal. For the record my favourites of his were BIRD and INFERNO (that one just edged out SUSPIRIA for me) I just thought that HITCHCOCK started off interesting and then went into a jumble. Agree about the babes though!

 
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