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 Posted:   Aug 16, 2011 - 1:05 PM   
 By:   bobbengan   (Member)

Just caught this wretched movie the other night. Had heard terrible things about it for years, and indeed it was bad - in a fun way though mostly. One thing I had absolutely not been prepared for at all was Perry Botkin's wonderful, brilliantly-orchestrated and romantic score! I'd never even ehard of the composer, and doing a little research it appears he is best-known for his electronic, non-filmmusic compositions. Crying shame, because if this score is any indication he has a wonderful and very unique symphonic voice. Here's a link to the last few minutes of the film, including the awesome and extended end title suite (try to ignore the fact that it plays out over footage of a topless Bo Derek wrestling w/ a primate). This is a really, really impressive effort and I'm amazed it's never been mentioned around here, that I could find. The orchestrations here really are inspired and lovely, creating a perfect 'jungle-like' ambiance a la John Scott's 'Greystoke'. I'd love a release of this!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuWZ2BqmgHo

Any thoughts?

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 16, 2011 - 2:50 PM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

Very nice score, i agree, however MR Botkin was active in film scoring in the 70' 80's and beyond, he scored about 2 dozen films, good scores like Bless the beast and the children,Skyjacked, They only killed their masters, Goin south[Nicholson] etc etc.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 16, 2011 - 5:43 PM   
 By:   bobbengan   (Member)

Very nice score, i agree, however MR Botkin was active in film scoring in the 70' 80's and beyond, he scored about 2 dozen films, good scores like Bless the beast and the children,Skyjacked, They only killed their masters, Goin south[Nicholson] etc etc.


Have you heard any of these? Any recommendations?

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 16, 2011 - 9:55 PM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

Skyjacked was a good action score and a very nice main theme which was sung back then by a few pop singers. They kill only their masters, i thought was another good score, more laidback then Skyjacked, but also had a good theme as well. Goin South, was not your typical western score, like The long riders; It tried to be innovator and different from the norm. As i said , he scored over 2 dozen films and there were others i liked as well.

 
 Posted:   Aug 16, 2011 - 11:31 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I concur that Skyjacked is a pretty good score.

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 17, 2011 - 12:44 AM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

I concur that Skyjacked is a pretty good score.
Yavar


The main title music starts at about the one minute mark.




 
 
 Posted:   Aug 17, 2011 - 12:56 AM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

Thanks, bob- the music that was sung from that movie, probably was the love theme, somewhere in the middle of the movie, because the opening and close credit music was other music, i can't right now remember who was the singer, i had an lp of it years ago, also i believe Roger williams did a piano instrumental on the theme on one of his lp;s. which i had years ago, before i sold my giant LP collection when i moved cross country years ago.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 17, 2011 - 2:30 AM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

Thanks, bob- the music that was sung from that movie, probably was the love theme, somewhere in the middle of the movie, because the opening and close credit music was other music, i can't right now remember who was the singer, i had an lp of it years ago, also i believe Roger williams did a piano instrumental on the theme on one of his lp;s. which i had years ago, before i sold my giant LP collection when i moved cross country years ago.

As can be seen by the opening and closing credits sequences, there's no song credited on screen. Perhaps it was just source music.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 17, 2011 - 2:50 AM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

i believe Roger williams did a piano instrumental on the theme on one of his lp;s. which i had years ago, before i sold my giant LP collection when i moved cross country years ago.

Here's that LP:

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 17, 2011 - 12:34 PM   
 By:   bobbengan   (Member)

Thanks for all the info, guys. Shame Botkin never seemed to rise to the ranks of the a-listers. Certainly TARZAN, THE APE MAN is a beautiful, gorgeously-orchestrated score. I sincerely hope it gets a release in the near future.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 14, 2013 - 5:16 AM   
 By:   KT   (Member)

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 Posted:   Jun 29, 2013 - 7:54 PM   
 By:   bobbengan   (Member)

Thanks for all the info, guys. Shame Botkin never seemed to rise to the ranks of the a-listers. Certainly TARZAN, THE APE MAN is a beautiful, gorgeously-orchestrated score. I sincerely hope it gets a release in the near future.

Where is the CD release of this beautiful music, grrrrr? Since I saw the film some nine years ago, I have been waiting it (well knowing that it´s not gonna happen, but one can dream). If you like Baxter´s exotica, then this is exactly for you! Very lush and sunny music.


Bumping this to try and get more interest in this fantastic score! By the way, which Baxter are you referring to? I'd be interested to hear more music like this...

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2013 - 5:13 AM   
 By:   KT   (Member)

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 Posted:   Jun 30, 2013 - 7:30 PM   
 By:   bobbengan   (Member)

I would recommend these Baxter albums for starters:

Ports of Pleasure (try Tahiti, a Summer Night at Sea; Tramp Steamer to Singapore is another jewel)
Tamboo (Oasis of Dakhla for example)
Ritual of the Savage (Quiet Village and Jungle Flower)

Another fine exotica album is Dominic Frontiere´s Pagan Festival (for example Goddess of Love, Time of Sunshine and House of Pleasure; more lush and languid music in similar vein).

You might as well check out Wally Stott´s version of Cyril Scott´s Lotus Land.


That Wally Stott piece is gorgeous! Holy crap! Thank you so much for the recommendation. Gorgeously orchestrated, sumptuous stuff - not unlike Respighi's opening movement of "Brazilian Impressions". Love it! If anyone hasn't heard it, you don't know what you're missing!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gR_mg_qKhA


 
 
 Posted:   Aug 6, 2013 - 5:41 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

I saw TARZAN, THE APE MAN a few days ago. The film was barely tolerable. The most favorable review of the film that I read actually came from Roger Ebert, who gave it two and a half stars, saying that it "has a certain disarming charm." It is surprising that, with all the labels mining the MGM/UA music vaults, we haven't seen a release of this score. Divorced from the film, it works well.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 6, 2013 - 6:37 PM   
 By:   Eugene Iemola   (Member)

Thanks for all the info, guys. Shame Botkin never seemed to rise to the ranks of the a-listers.

Didn't they have Wikipedia back in 2011?

Perry Botkin is alive and well and can afford to do whatever the hell he wants.

By the way, I have his partner's soundtrack The Warriors on constant play in the Prius.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 16, 2014 - 7:08 AM   
 By:   bobbengan   (Member)

Time for a bump. Anyone else love this score and want to see it released?

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 16, 2014 - 8:10 PM   
 By:   Preston Neal Jones   (Member)

I first encountered the name Perry Botkin in relation to the musicians backing Fred Astaire on some of his '78's. Of course, that was the film composer's dad, a very busy jazz guitarist in his day. I'd say that father and son have both brought musical distinction and honor to the name.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 27, 2015 - 10:34 PM   
 By:   bobbengan   (Member)

https://vimeo.com/107795411

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 28, 2015 - 1:37 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Fun fact:

Perry Botkin played with John Williams in a jazz band during the summer of 1949 -- they actually played for jampacked audiences in the LA "underground" scene. Botkin and Williams both attended North Hollywood High School at the time, and were most likely classmates (or at least at the same class level).

Read more here:

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=95574&forumID=1&archive=0

 
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