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 Posted:   Sep 11, 2011 - 1:38 PM   
 By:   filmusicnow   (Member)

Does anybody think that the liner notes for "The Swarm" are the worst ever? I mean, Jerry Goldsmith, saying, "The film has everything!", while Irwin Allen says "And now for the music".

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2011 - 1:55 PM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

AND Fred Macmurray as CLARENCE!



Cool THE SWARM poster site:

http://todoelterrordelmundo.blogspot.com/2010/08/el-enjambre-swarm-irwin-allen-eeuu-1978.html

 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2011 - 5:04 PM   
 By:   Viscount Bark   (Member)

I so love the entire Goldsmith "quote" (did he REALLY say this?), "Whew!...This is a hell of a film. It has everything - love, pathos, crises, high drama and awesome scenes!"

 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2011 - 5:38 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

That's so Jerry!

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2011 - 7:02 PM   
 By:   vinylscrubber   (Member)

"Whew!...This is a hell of a film. It has everything - love, pathos, crises, high drama and awesome scenes!" . . . to
be followed by, "and like a lot of films I sign on to, it's a load of shit!"

Nevertheless, he managed to dress up this turd in classy fashion.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2011 - 7:42 PM   
 By:   MOsdtks   (Member)

AND Fred Macmurray as CLARENCE!



Cool THE SWARM poster site:

http://todoelterrordelmundo.blogspot.com/2010/08/el-enjambre-swarm-irwin-allen-eeuu-1978.html



Awful liner notes written by a studio hack.
So bad they're funny.
Roger Ebert once said "Never trust a movie that has little pictures of the cast on the poster."
lol.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2011 - 8:07 PM   
 By:   quiller007   (Member)

Does anybody think that the liner notes for "The Swarm" are the worst ever? I mean, Jerry Goldsmith, saying, "The film has everything!", while Irwin Allen says "And now for the music".


Wrong! They are the greatest liner notes ever written for the greatest
soundtrack ever composed to the greatest film ever made!

Gary Collins is the greatest actor who ever lived!

Den

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2011 - 9:03 PM   
 By:   mrchriswell   (Member)

How many Oscars in that poster? I count 13:

Caine - 2
De Havilland -2
Grant -2 (one for best short or something)
Johnson - 1
Duke - 1
Ferrer - 1
Fonda - 1
Allen - 1 (for best doc)
Silliphant - 1
Goldsmith - 1

 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2011 - 9:30 PM   
 By:   drivingmissdaisy   (Member)

I can't comment on the liner notes as being bad, but I can say who my two favorites are, Schweiger and Bond. Not that everyone else aren't good, but I just tend to like these two a lot!

 
 Posted:   Sep 12, 2011 - 12:30 AM   
 By:   Loren   (Member)

Swarm LP's liner notes are not that bad and surely are better than SWARM CD's

 
 Posted:   Sep 12, 2011 - 1:13 AM   
 By:   CindyLover   (Member)

I so love the entire Goldsmith "quote" (did he REALLY say this?), "Whew!...This is a hell of a film. It has everything - love, pathos, crises, high drama and awesome scenes!"

I can certainly believe his response included the words "this," "is" and "hell," although it's more likely to have included "What," "the," and "crap" as well. smile

 
 Posted:   Sep 12, 2011 - 1:22 AM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

Let's not forget that when a film is new and you're endorsing tie-in merchandise, you say what you're supposed to say, not what you really think.

I'm sure Jerry Goldsmith was under no illusions this was a terrible film. But you ain't going to market your film/album with a comment like, "It's a turd but buy into it anyway".

Cheers

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 12, 2011 - 6:12 AM   
 By:   CinemaScope   (Member)

In nearly every interview poor old Michael Caine gets it in the neck for this, but as he likes to point out, it also had Henry Fonda & Richard Widmark (& quite a few others) in it.

 
 Posted:   Sep 12, 2011 - 7:00 AM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)

Never in the history of film has a movie had so many amazing actors giving wretched performances. The whole exercise was a "take the money and shut up" situation for just about everyone.

I watch the film often; the extended DVD cut is hysterical. It's seriously one of the most unintentionally hilarious films I've ever seen. Check out Michael Caine and Richard Widmark's shouting argument about killing the bees with pesticides. Good God...

"That is the POINT, general! The honey bee is vital to the environment! Every year in america, they pollinate six billion dollars worth of crops! If you kill the bee, you're gonna kill the crop! If you kill the plants, you'll kill the people! NO! NO, GENERAL!!! There will be no air drop, until we know exactly, what we are dropping. And where! And how! EXCUSE ME!!!!!"

 
 Posted:   Sep 12, 2011 - 7:15 AM   
 By:   goldsmith-rulez   (Member)

In nearly every interview poor old Michael Caine gets it in the neck for this, but as he likes to point out, it also had Henry Fonda & Richard Widmark (& quite a few others) in it.

Caine is also regularly grilled over his participation in JAWS IV, about which he said: "But the house it helped build is beautiful". smile

Not that JAWS IV is anywhere near as awful as THE SWARM.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 12, 2011 - 7:21 AM   
 By:   Vermithrax Pejorative   (Member)

They're not the worst, they're the funniest! smile

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 12, 2011 - 8:00 AM   
 By:   mrchriswell   (Member)

In nearly every interview poor old Michael Caine gets it in the neck for this, but as he likes to point out, it also had Henry Fonda & Richard Widmark (& quite a few others) in it.

Caine is also regularly grilled over his participation in JAWS IV, about which he said: "But the house it helped build is beautiful". smile

Not that JAWS IV is anywhere near as awful as THE SWARM.


I'd rather watch The Swarm any day. McMurray, DeHavilland, and Ben Johnson in a love triangle, resolved in a fiery train crash that kills ALL OF THEM!? Jaws IV can't compete with that.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 12, 2011 - 10:44 AM   
 By:   Simon Underwood   (Member)

Never in the history of film has a movie had so many amazing actors giving wretched performances. The whole exercise was a "take the money and shut up" situation for just about everyone.

I watch the film often; the extended DVD cut is hysterical. It's seriously one of the most unintentionally hilarious films I've ever seen. Check out Michael Caine and Richard Widmark's shouting argument about killing the bees with pesticides. Good God...

"That is the POINT, general! The honey bee is vital to the environment! Every year in america, they pollinate six billion dollars worth of crops! If you kill the bee, you're gonna kill the crop! If you kill the plants, you'll kill the people! NO! NO, GENERAL!!! There will be no air drop, until we know exactly, what we are dropping. And where! And how! EXCUSE ME!!!!!"


God I love that argument. Just when you think he can't shout any louder he manages it.

So many stupid moments. How did you get into this classified US base? "That's a complicated story. It begins a year ago. But let's skip that" AND THEY DO!!! No, let's not skip that, you're a bloody intruder!

I do get really annoyed at the film though - I'm not big on wanton destruction of mass survivors, especially when there's probably many kids among them. This one's guilty of it in the train wreck scene - so if your child wasn't horribly stung to death earlier they'll be exploded a few hours hence. Cassandra Crossing also does it at the end when carriage loads of extras we've never even met before plunge off the bridge while all the irritating characters (bar the Magnificent Harris) walk away. Most egregiously, Earthquake parks all it's rescued people in an underground area and then has it collapse on them! It's so horrible that these films get watched a lot less than, say, The Towering Inferno, which I love enough to own on blu-ray.

Sorry about that rant, it's obviously one of my buttons! (Don't get me started on Widmark - who's actually right most of the time! - dying at the end and yet the film skips how Caine and the limped Ross get through all the Houston bees with no protection!)

I do love the film, though, really.

 
 Posted:   Sep 12, 2011 - 11:02 AM   
 By:   On the Score   (Member)

THE SWARM is the great-awful liner note equivalent of TROLL II.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 12, 2011 - 11:54 AM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

Favorite line from the film:

Michael Caine's character says:

"I have cardio-pep compound in my van!"

That always cracked me up for some reason.

And there was something quite morbid yet stupidly comical in the scene with Slim Picken's and his dead son in the body bag. Goldsmith's overly dramatic music there might not have helped. It just visually looked stupid. To me that is.

 
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