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 Posted:   Oct 22, 2011 - 10:49 AM   
 By:   rbrisbane_1984   (Member)

*ALERT*

Movies on the Radio presents the exclusive broadcast premiere of John Williams's score for the forthcoming Steven Spielberg film “War Horse." The film, which will open on Christmas Day, tells the inspiring story of a brave young man and his bond with an extraordinary horse, set during—and on the frontlines of—World War I. The film is based on the same book that inspired the current Broadway show "War Horse."

The ongoing collaboration of Steven Spielberg and John Williams is one of the most prestigious and successful director-composer collaborations in cinema. Their movies include "Jaws," "Close Encounters of the Third Kind," "E.T.: The Extraterrestrial," the "Indiana Jones" series, "Jurassic Park," "Schindler’s List" and many other classics. John Williams has won five Academy Awards, and has been nominated 41 times. His music has been wowing movie audiences since the 1960s.

In addition to the premiere of “War Horse,” host David Garland presents highlights from the other new Spielberg/Williams film, “The Adventures of Tintin” (which opens in Europe on Oct. 22, and in the US on Dec. 21), plus familiar music from previous Spielberg/Williams collaborations.

UPDATE: Listen to this five-minute preview:

http://www.wqxr.org/#/programs/movies/2011/oct/22/

 
 Posted:   Oct 22, 2011 - 8:06 PM   
 By:   Sigerson Holmes   (Member)

So, I guess I knew to expect an accordion to turn up somewhere in the new "Tintin" score.

That "War Horse" sure is sounding more and more like the score of the year, from the sixteen minutes we were permitted to hear on "Movies on the Radio."

Thanks for the heads-up, rbrisbane_1984!

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 22, 2011 - 10:28 PM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

Yes, thanks rbrisbane for the tip on this show and to David Garland for sharing it with us.

First impressions.

Old style Williams.

The english countryside music reminds me of FAR AND AWAY.

Was hoping to hear more of the Gorgeous WAR HORSE Main Theme which is so prominently featured in the Trailers we have been watching and listening to. For me, that is the heart of this score and I can't wait to hear a Soaring long version of that. I feel that it will surely tug at the heart and get Williams the Oscar Nom.

The music that Garland played didn't knock my socks off, but was basic John Williams music that usually well accompanies the imagery and story on screen, especially in Spielberg films.

I hear great echoes of THE RIVER and that Williams style.

Now I just want to see the movie and hear that Gorgeous Main Theme played in all it's passion and glory.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 22, 2011 - 11:23 PM   
 By:   nxbusby491   (Member)

Just listened to it. If John Williams doesn't win the Oscar this year, there is seriously something wrong with those people. Granted, there may come another score between now and then, but up to this point in the year: Greatest filmscore of the year AND the 3 year wait was so worth it.

 
 Posted:   Oct 23, 2011 - 4:54 AM   
 By:   goldsmith-rulez   (Member)

First impressions.

Old style Williams.

The english countryside music reminds me of FAR AND AWAY.


Sigh. After earlier remarks in the War Horse thread I was hoping for something truly English-sounding. frown

And I wouldn't consider FAR AND AWAY old-style Williams. Rather, it's latter-day solid-but-mediocre Williams.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 23, 2011 - 5:01 AM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

The english countryside music reminds me of FAR AND AWAY.

So, basically, Irish then?! lol

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 23, 2011 - 5:17 AM   
 By:   Luc Van der Eeken   (Member)

First impressions.

Old style Williams.

The english countryside music reminds me of FAR AND AWAY.


Sigh. After earlier remarks in the War Horse thread I was hoping for something truly English-sounding. frown

And I wouldn't consider FAR AND AWAY old-style Williams. Rather, it's latter-day solid-but-mediocre Williams.


Again, we must have listened to a different score...What's wrong with you? This sounds tremendous.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 23, 2011 - 5:21 AM   
 By:   KonstantinosZ   (Member)

If John Williams doesn't win the Oscar this year, there is seriously something wrong with those people.

Totally agree!!
Although, I'm afraid the Oscar Winners of the past years, show that definitely there's something wrong!

 
 Posted:   Oct 23, 2011 - 5:25 AM   
 By:   goldsmith-rulez   (Member)

And I wouldn't consider FAR AND AWAY old-style Williams. Rather, it's latter-day solid-but-mediocre Williams.

Again, we must have listened to a different score...What's wrong with you? This sounds tremendous.


I was referring to FAR AND AWAY, which is routine and barely inspired, auto-piloted at the usual high technical level.

I wasn't referring to War Horse, as I haven't heard it yet (a situation that is going to change within a few minutes though, as someone at JWFAN has uploaded the radio broadcast.

 
 Posted:   Oct 23, 2011 - 5:39 AM   
 By:   goldsmith-rulez   (Member)

Just listening to the three WAR HORSE cues from the broadcast now. First piece (Seeding, and Horse vs Car) definitely harks back to The Reivers. Plus some English-style light music. The second one (No Man's Land) begins with a modernistic suspense cue, leading into a dynamic action piece, Williams-style, halfway through. The final cue is 8 minutes long (The Homecoming), with a folksy beginning. A short lyrical phase is obviously inspired (though not lifted from!) by Ralph Vaughan Williams (Pastoral Symphony), then follows an Americana theme again, apparently the main motif. The closing bars are very close to a lyrical motif in The River.

Overall, a weird mix of American and English music, but quite appealing.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 23, 2011 - 5:48 AM   
 By:   Luc Van der Eeken   (Member)

Just listening to the three WAR HORSE cues from the broadcast now. First piece (Seeding, and Horse vs Car) definitely harks back to The Reivers. Plus some English-style light music. The second one (No Man's Land) begins with a modernistic suspense cue, leading into a dynamic action piece, Williams-style, halfway through. The final cue is 8 minutes long (The Homecoming), with a folksy beginning. A short lyrical phase is obviously inspired (though not lifted from!) by Ralph Vaughan Williams (Pastoral Symphony), then follows an Americana theme again, apparently the main motif. The closing bars are very close to a lyrical motif in The River.

Overall, a weird mix of American and English music, but quite appealing.


Okay, sorry about that remark before but still...how you can call Far and Away routine or barely inspired is beyond me. But that's just me.

 
 Posted:   Oct 23, 2011 - 6:48 AM   
 By:   DavidCoscina   (Member)

These clips didn't do much for me. I mean, it's nice Williams writing but this feels more by the numbers than Tintin which did inspire. Of course I'll buy this because I'm a Williams completist but unlike Tintin which sounds like Williams using his full range, this upon first listen seems more conservative and has that "hear it before" quality to it. Then again, I never actually cared for any of the music from The War Horse, even the trailer music.

 
 Posted:   Oct 23, 2011 - 6:51 AM   
 By:   goldsmith-rulez   (Member)

Tintin also has a "deja vu" feeling from track 1 all the way through - it's more varied because it's a cartoon action-adventure score. The actual level is the same.

 
 Posted:   Oct 23, 2011 - 6:53 AM   
 By:   JohnnyG   (Member)

Just listened to it. If John Williams doesn't win the Oscar this year, there is seriously something wrong with those people. Granted, there may come another score between now and then, but up to this point in the year: Greatest filmscore of the year AND the 3 year wait was so worth it.


...well, along came THE ARTIST - score by Ludovic Bource. Michel Hazanavicius's movie is an absolutely adorable hommage to Hollywood's silent era with music to match, which, in all possibility, will hit it big with the Academy! This is gonna be a strong contender and I wouldn't bet for an easy Williams win...

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 23, 2011 - 6:59 AM   
 By:   Luc Van der Eeken   (Member)

Guys..come on. It's like David Garland said himself on his broadcast...Williams did not reinvent the wheel with this music. Honestly, I think people expected the second coming with these 2 new Williams scores. I think they both sound really excellent, not new...but excellent nonetheless.

 
 Posted:   Oct 23, 2011 - 7:11 AM   
 By:   Juanki   (Member)

Just listened to it. If John Williams doesn't win the Oscar this year, there is seriously something wrong with those people. Granted, there may come another score between now and then, but up to this point in the year: Greatest filmscore of the year AND the 3 year wait was so worth it.


...well, along came THE ARTIST - score by Ludovic Bource. Michel Hazanavicius's movie is an absolutely adorable hommage to Hollywood's silent era with music to match, which, in all possibility, will hit it big with the Academy! This is gonna be a strong contender and I wouldn't bet for an easy Williams win...


I am pretty sure Oscar is between these two scores.

 
 Posted:   Oct 23, 2011 - 7:36 AM   
 By:   Erik Woods   (Member)



I was referring to FAR AND AWAY, which is routine and barely inspired, auto-piloted at the usual high technical level.



I don't how any one can call "The Land Race" and the brilliant "End Credits" routine.

We could use more of that "routine" in Hollywood these days.

-Erik-

 
 Posted:   Oct 23, 2011 - 7:43 AM   
 By:   goldsmith-rulez   (Member)

And I don't know how one can call them brilliant. wink

If both WAR HORSE and TINTIN get nominated, it would lessen Williams's chances. But the Academy has voted ant-symphonic in recent years anyway, with a generation of actors (who are by far largest group of voters) not attuned to classical music but to pop and hip-hop instead.

From what I've heard of these two scores I certainly wouldn't argue with either of them winning the Oscar, but it's not gonna happen.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 23, 2011 - 7:47 AM   
 By:   KonstantinosZ   (Member)

But the Academy has voted ant-symphonic in recent years, with a generation of actors (who are by far largest group of voters) not attuned to classical music but pop and hip-hop instead.


Oh, do you think that's the reason for last years' oscar winners?
I hadn't thought of that!!

 
 Posted:   Oct 23, 2011 - 7:50 AM   
 By:   goldsmith-rulez   (Member)

Yeah. On discussion boards today, it's safer to spell it out.

BTZ: Clearly, you are an objective observer: "Film Composer, Musicologist and Ph.D candidate of the University of Athens, Greece with focus on the musicological analysis of John Williams' film music composing style." big grin

 
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