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 Posted:   Nov 3, 2011 - 12:30 PM   
 By:   Jeff Bond   (Member)

I hate to interrupt the embarrassing James Horner war but this is the first new score to wake me up in quite a while. Great to have John Williams back...I've got something in my eye; excuse me...

 
 Posted:   Nov 3, 2011 - 12:35 PM   
 By:   goldsmith-rulez   (Member)

I was hoping it'd be better than TinTin. wink

 
 Posted:   Nov 3, 2011 - 12:35 PM   
 By:   Jeff Bond   (Member)

It is.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 3, 2011 - 12:36 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I've only heard a couple of tracks (I've restrained myself from digging further, as I want to have the full experience when I have the CD), but what I've heard is bloody brilliant! Just the kind of Williams I prefer and that made me such a fan of his in the first place.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 3, 2011 - 12:40 PM   
 By:   BrenKel   (Member)

Really looking forward to hearing this score!

For the time being though I will continue to enjoy Tintin - the more you listen the better it gets!

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 3, 2011 - 12:42 PM   
 By:   jedijim74   (Member)

I absolutely agree! I've listened to it from beginning to end at least five times and I dare say, I don't believe there's a composer on the planet other than Williams that could have written track 15 (Remembering Emile and Finale) Of course he gets the best musicians in the world to play his stuff, but the horn writing, string counterpoint and just overall joyous expression is truly unique in the film composer universe.

 
 Posted:   Nov 3, 2011 - 12:46 PM   
 By:   Erik Woods   (Member)

I found a good chunk of WAR HORSE rather dull. There are only a few extraordinary moments during the first 11 and a half tracks but the last 4 and hlaf make up for that! When playing it for the first time I actually couldn't wait for it to end. Not to say that War Horse is bad... far from it... but it's not as strong from start to finish as Tintin is. But man, when Williams dials it up the drama the score really shines, especially the final 4-5 tracks. From about the middle of "The _____ of Topthorn" to the end... vintage Williams.

-Erik-

 
 Posted:   Nov 3, 2011 - 4:24 PM   
 By:   Jeff Bond   (Member)

I'll take it over just about anything else I've heard in the past few years.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 3, 2011 - 4:26 PM   
 By:   Adam S   (Member)

I've only heard the 3 tracks that have been released but I really like what I hear so far. Tintin seems like the youthful adventure music but without the sentimentality that you'd normally expect. And War Horse has the more grown-up, mature, English at times kind of sound but with the full-blown sentimentality. They'll provide a nice contrast to one another and I expect War Horse will be the one that really speaks to me if the last track is any indication. (Though like BrendonKelly said, Tintin has been getting better and better.)

- Adam

 
 Posted:   Nov 3, 2011 - 5:07 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

I found a good chunk of WAR HORSE rather dull. There are only a few extraordinary moments during the first 11 and a half tracks but the last 4 and hlaf make up for that! When playing it for the first time I actually couldn't wait for it to end. Not to say that War Horse is bad... far from it... but it's not as strong from start to finish as Tintin is. But man, when Williams dials it up the drama the score really shines, especially the final 4-5 tracks. From about the middle of "The _____ of Topthorn" to the end... vintage Williams.

-Erik-


is it better than RETURN OF TH JEDI?
wink

 
 Posted:   Nov 3, 2011 - 5:07 PM   
 By:   DavidCoscina   (Member)

I'll take it over just about anything else I've heard in the past few years.

I've only really heard The Homecoming but wow is it beautiful. I played parts of Tintin for my wife, then switched to War Horse (Homecoming) and she said the first one sounded film scorish and very much described the action whereas The War Horse track "told a story". I like Tintin from a cerebral POV but The War Horse is pure emotion which is what Williams does best!

 
 Posted:   Nov 3, 2011 - 5:14 PM   
 By:   Jon Broxton   (Member)

The first thing that struck me about WAR HORSE is that it sounds like a combination of Far & Away and Jane Eyre. Those wonderfully earthy English tones, but with a little bit of regional color - not specifically Irish per se, but with just enough of a lilt for it to be interesting. Those last four cues are indeed stunning.

 
 Posted:   Nov 3, 2011 - 5:41 PM   
 By:   drivingmissdaisy   (Member)

...I've got something in my eye; excuse me...

Oh Jeff, that can be taken in two completely different directions, but either way, it makes the same point.

 
 Posted:   Nov 3, 2011 - 8:24 PM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

Boy, my mouth is watering listening to all of these raves for War Horse, yet I don't want to listen to it until I hear it in context in the film...frown

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 3, 2011 - 8:27 PM   
 By:   Timmer   (Member)

The first thing that struck me about WAR HORSE is that it sounds like a combination of Far & Away and Jane Eyre. Those wonderfully earthy English tones, but with a little bit of regional color - not specifically Irish per se, but with just enough of a lilt for it to be interesting. Those last four cues are indeed stunning.

From the pieces I've heard it's John Williams channeling Ralph Vaughan Williams and in my book that is no bad thing, I can't wait to hear the full album.

 
 Posted:   Nov 3, 2011 - 11:22 PM   
 By:   Amer Zahid   (Member)

Yes from the bits of pieces Ive heard this does indeed sound more promising then TINTIN. But Iam really hoping that this film gears up for Oscar Nomination and Im sure both TINTIN & WAR HORSE will be up for this year. But I hope he does win once more. I have never forgiven the Academy for missing and dissing his most original score for MEMOIRS OF A GEISHA for some unforgettable guitar riff shit in that movie and composer whose name does not come to my memory.

 
 Posted:   Nov 4, 2011 - 2:12 AM   
 By:   goldsmith-rulez   (Member)

The first thing that struck me about WAR HORSE is that it sounds like a combination of Far & Away and Jane Eyre. Those wonderfully earthy English tones, but with a little bit of regional color - not specifically Irish per se, but with just enough of a lilt for it to be interesting. Those last four cues are indeed stunning.

From the pieces I've heard it's John Williams channeling Ralph Vaughan Williams and in my book that is no bad thing, I can't wait to hear the full album.


The three leaked pieces show a mix of Americana and British elements (the latter both typical light music style and Vaughan Williams), and this might be be an uneasy mix, the two don't really belong together musically. I'm wondering whether there's an element in the plot that suggest such a mix. Alas, the film itself will probably be less interesting than Tintin.

The melodic element seems very promising though.

 
 Posted:   Nov 4, 2011 - 11:29 AM   
 By:   TheSeeker   (Member)

Yes from the bits of pieces Ive heard this does indeed sound more promising then TINTIN. But Iam really hoping that this film gears up for Oscar Nomination and Im sure both TINTIN & WAR HORSE will be up for this year. But I hope he does win once more.

Well, Amer, if you want JW to actually receive another Oscar (not that it actually means anything or that Mr Williams needs one), then do not hope for a double nomination.

CK

 
 Posted:   Nov 4, 2011 - 12:00 PM   
 By:   voiced   (Member)

Couldn't agree with Jeff more. It does have an edge over Tintin, but only slight in my opinion.

The 'No Man's Land' cue from 01:58 in is just one of the glorious highlights and features that brass and percussion with Williams' unique rhythmic sensibilities that we've all been missing!

http://soundcloud.com/timburden/war-horse-john-williams-clip





 
 Posted:   Nov 4, 2011 - 1:21 PM   
 By:   Jeff Bond   (Member)

Yes, "No Man's Land" is the first cue that got me genuinely excited. I haven't seen either movie yet but just in hearing the scores, Tintin seems very inventive but sounds more like action for action's sake, and "No Man's Land" demonstrates how much more thrilling an action cue becomes when there is a real depth of emotion behind it. I agree it's a mix of Americana and a British feel, and reminded me both of parts of Jane Eyre and The River (in the flute material). There's also an Irish element that harkens back to Far and Away, which is not one of my favorites--that stuff seems a little more obvious. To me Williams has always excelled in reaching real feeling in his best scores--I get that out of the Americana here while the more British touches add some sophistication and intelligence. Maybe those two elements are at odds but I find the combination very satisfying.
Oh, I almost forgot--James Horner sucks/rules. I don't want this post to appear out of place on the message board. smile

 
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