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 Posted:   Dec 7, 2011 - 2:47 AM   
 By:   Doug Raynes   (Member)


"Here's to the Prof...." was certainly in the movie when I first saw it on it's original UK release.
I used to sing it all the time !

"Twice as Tall" was only heard in snatches....when the Professor says "Let's have some music.." and when Alec is taking a shower in the grotto.

Likewise, "The Faithful Heart" was only heard when Alec played it on the raft.

Presumably, the director (or Pat?) decided that full versions of these songs only held up the plot and served no real purpose, other than selling Pat a few more records...which he did anyway ?


I also saw the film on its original UK release. I don't have a clear memory of all the songs but I certainly remember wishing they wiould get on with the film whenever Pat Boone started singing!

 
 Posted:   Dec 7, 2011 - 9:40 AM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

Incidentally, one day I will take photos and post them of the three original matte paintings I have for JOURNEY---one, a scenic of the volcano in the distance, another as the voyagers look down into the mouth of the volcano, and another (I think unused) of a master shot of the underground Atlantis city. They're each about 3 x 6 feet, so are quite large, and painted on masonite, presumably by Emil Kosa, Jr.

Yes, they would be by Emil Kosa, Jr. I believe JOURNEY was one of the first movies he started receiving credit for from Fox, although he'd been doing matte paintings for them since the '30s. Kosa is the guy who first painted the famous Fox seachlight logo, and his most famous matte painting for Fox is probably the Statue of Liberty at the end of PLANET OF THE APES, though his work on CLEOPATRA got the Oscar (as part of the SFX team).

Though working at Fox paid the bills, Kosa was a well-respected watercolorist and portrait painter in southern California. He died in late 1968.

 
 Posted:   Dec 7, 2011 - 2:24 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Hi all,
I.

Anyone else have / enjoy this score?

click on my FSM profile
smile
bruce

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 7, 2011 - 6:11 PM   
 By:   manderley   (Member)

.....Wow. How on earth did you get hold of those?.....


They were about to be consigned to the incinerator on the Fox backlot in 1960 and I asked for them. These kinds of things were sent to the fire day-in and day-out.

I was always sorry I couldn't save the ones from THE KING AND I, THE EGYPTIAN, and others I saw.
frown

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 7, 2011 - 7:21 PM   
 By:   Joe Caps   (Member)

When I was a kid I had that 45 rpm of Pat Boone singing the songs.
When the film opened weeks later, those songs were all there except for the bogus title song.

During the trailer on the old dvd at the very end of the trailer, you can see (but not hear)that Pat is actually SINGING the song on that raft.
I know in laserdisc days, a search was mad efor the footage of those songs. Nothing was found.

 
 Posted:   Dec 7, 2011 - 7:51 PM   
 By:   George Komar   (Member)

Incidentally, one day I will take photos and post them of the three original matte paintings I have for JOURNEY---one, a scenic of the volcano in the distance, another as the voyagers look down into the mouth of the volcano, and another (I think unused) of a master shot of the underground Atlantis city. They're each about 3 x 6 feet, so are quite large, and painted on masonite, presumably by Emil Kosa, Jr.



... from a fabulous Matte Shot site dedicated to Golden Age special effects:

http://nzpetesmatteshot.blogspot.com/2011/07/salute-to-20th-century-fox-special.html

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 8, 2011 - 12:09 AM   
 By:   NZPete   (Member)

Incidentally, one day I will take photos and post them of the three original matte paintings I have for JOURNEY---one, a scenic of the volcano in the distance, another as the voyagers look down into the mouth of the volcano, and another (I think unused) of a master shot of the underground Atlantis city. They're each about 3 x 6 feet, so are quite large, and painted on masonite, presumably by Emil Kosa, Jr.



... from a fabulous Matte Shot site dedicated to Golden Age special effects:

http://nzpetesmatteshot.blogspot.com/2011/07/salute-to-20th-century-fox-special.html



Hello Manderley,

We spoke briefly on this forum about those matte paintings as well as others such as South Pacific and a Jim Danforth matte some time ago. I'd be extremely enthusiastic to obtain images of those for my Matte Shot special effects site, and would love to be able to demonstrate to my readers some close up photos of the matte artist's brushwork if at all possible.

If you'd like to contact me, my email is: etercook62@gmail.com">petercook62@gmail.com

All the best

Peter
http://nzpetesmatteshot.blogspot.com/

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 8, 2011 - 1:57 AM   
 By:   manderley   (Member)

In the printed set of photos, I have the top right and bottom right mattes, plus the underground abandoned Atlantis city.

 
 Posted:   Dec 8, 2011 - 9:19 AM   
 By:   CH-CD   (Member)


Isn't it wonderful what they can do in the movies with a bit of paint and a bit of masonite ?

WOW !!

 
 Posted:   Dec 8, 2011 - 9:31 AM   
 By:   CH-CD   (Member)


I also saw the film on its original UK release. I don't have a clear memory of all the songs but I certainly remember wishing they wiould get on with the film whenever Pat Boone started singing!


Now, now!......it's only fair that they let Pat sing in the movie. It was his money that got it made.
He was "Cooga Mooga Productions" !

His record sales were second, only to Elvis.

Any news on the release of Pat's other Fox movies by Twilight Time yet ????

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 8, 2011 - 10:27 AM   
 By:   manderley   (Member)

.....Isn't it wonderful what they can do in the movies with a bit of paint and a bit of masonite ?

WOW !! .....



It's a little more interesting and involved than that.

At least at Fox (in the fifties) the procedure was to have the masonite cut, then at the bottom in the center of the board a small hole was cut so that the board could be "registered" on a pin in the shooting frame in front of the re-taking camera in the special photographic effects department.

Then, a large piece of unexposed photographic paper would be cut to fit the masonite board. The paper would be temporarily attached to the masonite, this unexposed board would be set up in the taking frame, the back of the bipack taking camera would be opened, and a light source would project the image of the negative---of the shot to be reworked---onto the unexposed paper on the board. The paper would be developed and dried---a black-and-white positive image of the raw CinemaScope frame---glued to the masonite board, and the painting would be made OVER the paper which was attached to the masonite, allowing the artist to see exactly where match lines and replacements need to be painted.

(An additional matching, but black-and-white "paint only" no image, matte board was also made to hold out certain portions of the image via the bipack photographic process.)

In the upper right photo, the rock ledge in the foreground (which has been tinted blueish and has had painted highlights added) is the actual rock ledge on the location and part of the original photograph. When you look closely at it you can see that it is simply a black-and-white image overwashed with a translucent bluish coloring. The remainder of the painting is new imagery. (The matching black-and-white painted "image hold-out" board was lost 50 years ago---a purely technical device with no interesting imagery on it.)

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 8, 2011 - 4:38 PM   
 By:   James Corry   (Member)

Those are certainly gorgeous/incredible matte-paintings! We know that they are not "real" but within the context of the film they put us (the audience) into that fantasy world that we WISH was real!

The actual shots of Boone, Mason, Prof. Gotaborg, etc. at the volcano were shot at Amboy Crater, an extinct volcano-cone which is located about an hour outside of Barstow (to the East, toward Needles, Calif.) in the Mojave Desert in So. California. Iceland does NOT look like the Mojave Desert, but the movie is SO good, who cares? Not me!

James

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 28, 2015 - 8:25 AM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Someone named J. Hoberman wrote this in the NY Times the other day:

JOURNEY TO THE CENTER OF THE EARTH
Now out on Blu-ray, Henry Levin’s 1959 adaptation of Jules Verne’s novel is another movie that would be borrowed from in “Raiders of the Lost Ark.” James Mason, who had played a Verne protagonist, Captain Nemo, in the Disney version of “20,000 Leagues Under the Sea” five years before, is the adventurous geologist who leads the descent. Bernard Herrmann wrote the rumbling score. (Twilight Time)

Can anybody explain what "rumbling score" means?

 
 Posted:   Apr 28, 2015 - 10:29 AM   
 By:   other tallguy   (Member)

Someone named J. Hoberman wrote this in the NY Times the other day:

JOURNEY TO THE CENTER OF THE EARTH
Now out on Blu-ray, Henry Levin’s 1959 adaptation of Jules Verne’s novel is another movie that would be borrowed from in “Raiders of the Lost Ark.” James Mason, who had played a Verne protagonist, Captain Nemo, in the Disney version of “20,000 Leagues Under the Sea” five years before, is the adventurous geologist who leads the descent. Bernard Herrmann wrote the rumbling score. (Twilight Time)

Can anybody explain what "rumbling score" means?


Lotta low notes? The Underworld Ocean certainly rumbles.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 28, 2015 - 11:18 AM   
 By:   babbelballetje   (Member)

Someone named J. Hoberman wrote this in the NY Times the other day:

JOURNEY TO THE CENTER OF THE EARTH
Now out on Blu-ray, Henry Levin’s 1959 adaptation of Jules Verne’s novel is another movie that would be borrowed from in “Raiders of the Lost Ark.” James Mason, who had played a Verne protagonist, Captain Nemo, in the Disney version of “20,000 Leagues Under the Sea” five years before, is the adventurous geologist who leads the descent. Bernard Herrmann wrote the rumbling score. (Twilight Time)

Can anybody explain what "rumbling score" means?


Low notes indeed. The whole room rumbles when I play it loud!

 
 Posted:   Aug 25, 2019 - 7:54 AM   
 By:   Lattanzi   (Member)

One of my first favorite scores, when I was a kid I practically wore out our VHS tape of the film.

I was wondering about the very, very last cue used in the film, which plays over an acknowledgement to the national park they filmed at. This music isn't on any of the releases, and so I figured it's not by Herrmann, or is it? Sorry if this has already been covered. Thanks.

 
 Posted:   Aug 25, 2019 - 10:57 AM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

It sounds to me that BH used the.music for the climactic escape uses the same technique for the orchestral crescendo in A DAY IN THE LIFE by The Beatles.

That would make TWO Beatle songs inspired by Bennies string writing!

 
 Posted:   Aug 25, 2019 - 10:59 AM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Someone named J. Hoberman wrote this in the NY Times the other day:

JOURNEY TO THE CENTER OF THE EARTH
Now out on Blu-ray, Henry Levin’s 1959 adaptation of Jules Verne’s novel is another movie that would be borrowed from in “Raiders of the Lost Ark.” James Mason, who had played a Verne protagonist, Captain Nemo, in the Disney version of “20,000 Leagues Under the Sea” five years before, is the adventurous geologist who leads the descent. Bernard Herrmann wrote the rumbling score. (Twilight Time)

Can anybody explain what "rumbling score" means?


Low notes indeed. The whole room rumbles when I play it loud!


I think it's a typo. Writer meant " grumbling"
Lol!

 
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