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 Posted:   Mar 16, 2017 - 4:30 AM   
 By:   litefoot   (Member)

Re: April Fools Day - the source link in the first post is to page one of the thread, but the actual post is on page 37 (Oct 16 2013)

I can't find anything else to add to your list, alas. We could just list every Varese album of a new film from 1989 onwards but that would take forever, and some titles like Dead Again and Pet Semetary proved not to be perp titles after all, so who knows which are and which aren't?

Anyway, bookmarking this thread. Thank you for starting it, Jason.

 Posted:   Mar 16, 2017 - 4:34 AM   
 By:   litefoot   (Member)

I forgot to add - and this is a little off topic - MV says Silva have the rights to Supergirl and Legend in perpetuity.

 Posted:   Mar 16, 2017 - 2:10 PM   
 By:   litefoot   (Member)

Jason, where did you hear about Peggy Sue? I can't find anything online. Was it an email? Thanks.

*edit* OK, I see Yavar said it was revealed when the DE came out. I'll have a look around that thread.

 Posted:   Mar 17, 2017 - 7:34 AM   
 By:   litefoot   (Member)

double post

 Posted:   Mar 17, 2017 - 7:35 AM   
 By:   litefoot   (Member)

Varese also hold Bill Conti's North and South in perpetuity as referred to by MV below. It was initially released as a re-recording on a CD with Conti's The Right Stuff.:

 Posted:   Mar 18, 2017 - 4:57 PM   
 By:   litefoot   (Member)

Another seven for the list coming up!

Earlier in the thread I added Bernard Herrmann's The Ghost and Mrs Muir which was confirmed by Bruce K as being controlled by Varese. It was on Varese's 'Herrmann at Fox' boxset released back in 2011. The set had the following titles, 18 in all:

Jane Eyre, Anna and the King of Siam, The Ghost and Mrs. Muir, The Day the Earth Stood Still, Five Fingers, Hangover Square, The Snows of Kilimanjaro, A Hatful of Rain, White Witch Doctor, Beneath the 12-Mile Reef, The Egyptian, Garden of Evil, King of the Khyber Rifles, Blue Denim, Prince of Players, The Man in the Gray Flannel Suit, Journey to the Center of the Earth, Tender is the Night.

Kritzerland subsequently released seven of these titles as single releases (Jane Eyre, The Day The Earth Stood Still, Five Fingers, Hangover Square, The Snows of Kilimanjaro, White Witch Doctor and Beneath The 12-Mile Reef), so we know Varese don't own those in perp. La La Land released The Egyptian in 2015 so we know Varese don't control that one, either. And FSM released Blue Denim in 2001, a title that Varese hadn't touched until they did their boxset - so that's another one Varese don't own.

That leaves:

Anna and the King of Siam, The Ghost and Mrs. Muir, A Hatful of Rain, Garden of Evil, King of the Khyber Rifles, Prince of Players, The Man in the Gray Flannel Suit, Journey to the Center of the Earth, Tender is the Night.

Bruce says in this thread:

"Varese owns whatever came out in the late 90s under those Herrmann volumes - Ghost and Mrs. Muir, Man in the Gray Flannel Suit, Hatful of Rain, etc."

The 'Herrmann volumes' he refers to are 'Bernard Herrmann at Fox' Vols 1, 2 and 3 released in 1999 and 2000. The remaining titles listed above are the exact titles on those three volumes, with the exception of The Ghost and Mrs Muir, which he has already confirmed as Varese in perp, and Journey To The Center of the Earth. So, those seven are controlled by Varese.

Therefore your seven new additions to the master list are

Anna and the King of Siam
A Hatful of Rain
Garden of Evil
King of the Khyber Rifles
Prince of Players
The Man in the Gray Flannel Suit
Tender is the Night

and the source is Bruce's post in the link above.

It was Yavar's detailed post in that thread which prompted me to go look at those late 90s Herrmann volumes so thanks to him for that.

We just don't know about Journey to The Center of the Earth yet. Varese did release this in 1997 - but not on those Herrmann sets.

Anyway, 45 and counting!

 Posted:   Mar 20, 2017 - 5:00 AM   
 By:   litefoot   (Member)

Back in 2013,someone asked MV in the LLL news thread if any Marco Beltrami releases were coming. He replied:

"Would love to. No plans for the immediate future. He's mainly Varese territory."

I looked at Beltrami's complete album list on his official site, and checked to see which label initially released them. 25 of those titles were released by Varese:

Scream 2
Scream 3
Scream 4
I Robot
Terminator 3
Blade II
Gods of Egypt
Live Free Or Die Hard
Joy Ride
The Thing (2011)
The Omen (2006)
Flight of the Phoenix (2004)
Seventh Son
Woman In Black 2
The Homesman
November Man
Trouble With The Curve
In The Electric Mist
The Watcher
The Minus Man

We can't be sure if Varese were refused perp rights on any of these titles (like Dead Again) but judging by MV's comment, most of them must be controlled by Varese.

We've had Varese deluxe editions of Screams 1 and 2, Hellboy and Mimic, of course.

 Posted:   Mar 23, 2017 - 2:00 AM   
 By:   litefoot   (Member)

MV just confirmed in the LLL Questions thread that Varese have Graham Revell's score to the 1995 Power Rangers film in perpetuity.

 Posted:   Apr 23, 2017 - 2:56 PM   
 By:   litefoot   (Member)

Just saw this thread.
I don't know if it has been mentioned again but what about Williams' Earthquake and The Eiger Sanction?
Could other labels release them?

Of course! Those were Universal LPs, Varese would absolutely not have any kind of perpetuity rights on those.

Accidental Genius wondered if Varese still had rights for Earthquake, MacArthur and Dracula in another thread earlier this week and MV replied:

"Varese does not own rights to these cds. UMG does and Varese back in the day sublicensed them for a period of time."

So now we know for sure that Varese don't have them in perp.

 Posted:   Apr 23, 2017 - 3:41 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

That's actually been confirmed several times now...originally confirmed several years ago, perhaps when Explorers came out?


 Posted:   Apr 24, 2017 - 8:06 AM   
 By:   kaseykockroach   (Member)

Do they have David Newman's Ice Age? I know a Deluxe Edition is unlikely, but a man can dream, can't he?

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