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 Posted:   Jan 25, 2012 - 6:16 AM   
 By:   Robert0320   (Member)

I would love to have a complete version of this forgotten but wonderful 1947 score. The suite featured on the Gerhardt/Rozsa album is terrific and I believe this was the third and final score that Rozsa utilized the theremin. Moody, romantic and autumnal, this score desreves a full restoration....John? Bill?

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 25, 2012 - 9:16 AM   
 By:   cody1949   (Member)

This thread should not slide down into oblivion. Yes indeed; THE RED HOUSE is a gorgeous score. A complete re-recording would be most welcomed not only by me but anyone who has a taste for good music. You heard me you horror score, atonal music junkies.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 25, 2012 - 9:31 AM   
 By:   Jim Doherty   (Member)

Don't forget that Rozsa himself recorded four excerpts from this score, which came out on a set of Capitol 78 RPM records at the time of the film's release. In the 1950s, it was reissued on LP, coupled with the Spellbound Concerto and excerpts from Quo Vadis. It also appeared on one side of a 10" LP, and as a 45RPM EP.

In the 90s, it reappeared on an Angel CD:

http://www.amazon.com/Film-Scores-Miklos-Rozsa/dp/B000002SOU/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1327512100&sr=1-1

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 25, 2012 - 10:21 AM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

Don't forget that Rozsa himself recorded four excerpts from this score, which came out on a set of Capitol 78 RPM records at the time of the film's release. In the 1950s, it was reissued on LP, coupled with the Spellbound Concerto and excerpts from Quo Vadis. It also appeared on one side of a 10" LP, and as a 45RPM EP.

In the 90s, it reappeared on an Angel CD:

http://www.amazon.com/Film-Scores-Miklos-Rozsa/dp/B000002SOU/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1327512100&sr=1-1



Thanks. I wasn't aware that Rozsa's "Red House" recording had appeared on CD. Soundtrack Collector doesn't list that recording among the compilation CDs for the score. There's no information as to how long those four recorded tracks run. Here's the EP cover.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 25, 2012 - 10:29 AM   
 By:   Bob Shelack   (Member)

The four tracks on the Angel cd:

Prelude 3:07
Screams In The Night 2:44
The Oxhead Woods 3:00
Retribution 3:06

 
 Posted:   Jan 25, 2012 - 10:39 AM   
 By:   DavidinBerkeley   (Member)

This gets my vote, too.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 25, 2012 - 10:47 AM   
 By:   scoreman   (Member)

Doug ?!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 25, 2012 - 10:53 AM   
 By:   scoreman   (Member)

Doug ?!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 25, 2012 - 11:04 AM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

The four tracks on the Angel cd:

Prelude 3:07
Screams In The Night 2:44
The Oxhead Woods 3:00
Retribution 3:06


That's 11:57. That's pretty much the same as the 5 tracks on the Gerhardt CD , which run 12:23.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 25, 2012 - 11:11 AM   
 By:   Doug Raynes   (Member)

Don't forget that Rozsa himself recorded four excerpts from this score, which came out on a set of Capitol 78 RPM records at the time of the film's release.

THE RED HOUSE selections were by the Nuremberg Symphony Orchestra conducted by Erich Kloss. An excellent score certainly. It's a pity there isn't a decent DVD of the film. Every DVD seems to come from the same print source with extremely poor quality picture and sound.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 25, 2012 - 11:28 AM   
 By:   Jim Doherty   (Member)

I stand corrected about Erich Kloss.

On that topic however, I seem to remember however that one of the BEN-HUR LPs (either Volume 2 or that budget LP on Lion Records), although attributed to Erich Kloss, was actually conducted by Rozsa, as he later admitted. Anybody else remember reading that?

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 25, 2012 - 11:44 AM   
 By:   Doug Raynes   (Member)

I stand corrected about Erich Kloss.

On that topic however, I seem to remember however that one of the BEN-HUR LPs (either Volume 2 or that budget LP on Lion Records), although attributed to Erich Kloss, was actually conducted by Rozsa, as he later admitted. Anybody else remember reading that?


There were different circumstances concerning BEN-HUR but I have never heard any suggestion that it was not Kloss who conducted the 1952 RED HOUSE recording for Capitol.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 25, 2012 - 12:37 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

I have never heard any suggestion that it was not Kloss who conducted the 1952 RED HOUSE recording for Capitol.

Well, the very fine print at the bottom of the Capitol EP cover posted above seems to read "Themes adapted from the original motion picture score and conducted by the composer."

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 25, 2012 - 1:07 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

I bought that Angel CD just for the Red House and Spellbound music, and unloaded it after I extracted those tracks.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 25, 2012 - 1:52 PM   
 By:   Doug Raynes   (Member)

I have never heard any suggestion that it was not Kloss who conducted the 1952 RED HOUSE recording for Capitol.

Well, the very fine print at the bottom of the Capitol EP cover posted above seems to read "Themes adapted from the original motion picture score and conducted by the composer."


Apologies. I was mixing up THE RED HOUSE with the QUO VADIS and SPELLBOUND selections which were on the LP version and which were conducted by Kloss. Nothing like spreading confusion!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 25, 2012 - 5:12 PM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

I bought that Angel CD just for the Red House and Spellbound music, and unloaded it after I extracted those tracks.

Admitting to piracy on this board, yet probably won't get slapped for it. Gotta love it.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 25, 2012 - 5:43 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

I bought that Angel CD just for the Red House and Spellbound music, and unloaded it after I extracted those tracks.

Admitting to piracy on this board, yet probably won't get slapped for it. Gotta love it.


How, may I ask, is that "piracy?" I didn't like the epic scores on the balance of the CD. Why clutter the record room with music I don't want?

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 25, 2012 - 5:52 PM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

Was a darn good movie as well, eerie and moody as hell, very effective film helped greatly by the music score.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 25, 2012 - 5:58 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

I would like a twofer of "Red House" and "Lost Weekend" to go with my Heindorf LP of "Spellbound."

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 25, 2012 - 7:55 PM   
 By:   Preston Neal Jones   (Member)

The Gerhardt RCA suite re-shuffled the material so that the more pastoral movements were closer together than on the original 78's.

***

Doug --

I made some comparisons last year of the RED HOUSE dvd's available at the time on Amazon.com. There's no really fine print available, but some are worse than others. FWIW, IMHO, the packaging is best on the Synergy Entertainment disc because it utilizes original ad art, but the best actual film print is from Alpha Video. Happy hunting!

-- PNJ

 
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