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 Posted:   Feb 6, 2012 - 4:37 AM   
 By:   Big X   (Member)

Does anyone know whether there is any possibility that any of the major labells will release the complete score to this great score from Bernstein?

I missed the oppertunity to get my hands on this when Varese released their CD back in March 2006.

I note that Varese have been revisiting some of their earlier releases more specifically with the Karate Kid series. Is there any possibility they may revisit this again? Or what about Intrada releasing this?

Any inside information would be very welcome.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 6, 2012 - 6:30 AM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

Even if it was a straight re release of the Varese club, I'd re-buy it if it got a better mastering, without the brick walling.

 
 Posted:   Feb 6, 2012 - 1:02 PM   
 By:   Superman1701   (Member)

Even if it was a straight re release of the Varese club, I'd re-buy it if it got a better mastering, without the brick walling.

a super holy grail for me. Im lucky I was able to find a sealed copy long after it went out of print for a decent price.

 
 Posted:   Feb 6, 2012 - 1:03 PM   
 By:   drivingmissdaisy   (Member)

Even if it was a straight re release of the Varese club, I'd re-buy it if it got a better mastering, without the brick walling.

a super holy grail for me. Im lucky I was able to find a sealed copy long after it went out of print for a decent price.


You don't say...

 
 Posted:   Feb 6, 2012 - 1:08 PM   
 By:   Jeyl   (Member)

- Even if it was a straight re release of the Varese club, I'd re-buy it if it got a better mastering, without the brick walling.

....Brick walling?

 
 Posted:   Feb 6, 2012 - 1:18 PM   
 By:   Trent B.   (Member)

Hopefully either Intrada or LLL will release the full complete score some day.

 
 Posted:   Feb 6, 2012 - 1:42 PM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

Aside from the source cue at the restaurant that gets cut off by rick moranis, what exactly is missing from the varese club? I can't see any soundtrack label getting the song rights and release these with the bernstein material. I like the varese club a lot, but most of the unused cues on it are very 'out there' and don't fit the picture.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 6, 2012 - 1:48 PM   
 By:   Nicholas_DW   (Member)

The piece that's looped in the picture several times was left off. It starts during the scene on the rooftop when Venkman says, "Alright, this chick is TOAST!" It starts with a martial arrangement of the Ghostbusters theme and then, as Gozer growls, segues into shrieking strings (this was the passage that was tracked into the film a few other, earlier, times). A minute and a half (tops) and it's not on the Varese release. One of my favorite pieces from the movie too.

 
 Posted:   Feb 6, 2012 - 1:55 PM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

Seen the movie so many times i know exactly what you mean smile Didn't realise it wasn't on there. A great cue yes; the original uncut versions of the climactic cues take some getting use to on the varese.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 6, 2012 - 2:00 PM   
 By:   Michael24   (Member)

I hope this is re-issued by another label at some point. I missed it the first time around since I was out of the loop, and as much as I like it, I'm not paying the typical asking price I see it going for online. And I would like to see that brief but cool little piece that Ka-razy mentioned included on any re-issue.

 
 Posted:   Feb 6, 2012 - 6:11 PM   
 By:   Superman1701   (Member)

Even if it was a straight re release of the Varese club, I'd re-buy it if it got a better mastering, without the brick walling.

a super holy grail for me. Im lucky I was able to find a sealed copy long after it went out of print for a decent price.


You don't say...


Amen Peter!

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2012 - 2:40 AM   
 By:   Mink   (Member)

The piece that's looped in the picture several times was left off. It starts during the scene on the rooftop when Venkman says, "Alright, this chick is TOAST!" It starts with a martial arrangement of the Ghostbusters theme and then, as Gozer growls, segues into shrieking strings (this was the passage that was tracked into the film a few other, earlier, times). A minute and a half (tops) and it's not on the Varese release. One of my favorite pieces from the movie too.

Actually the first part of the cue IS on the Varese (as well as all other prior "releases"): just without the snare drum overdub (that's eventually not part of the original recording and was probably added in postproduction?).

What you're described as "shrieking strings" is a synthesizer sound that was, like you mentioned, used for A LOT of suspense moments in the film. My guess is that it's not by Bernstein but something the (music) editor or SFX sound guy came up with. If that piece survived in some sound library it would be a nice addition indeed. I higly doubt it still exists though.


As for the Varese: they edited out the second half of the heart-beat like bass electronics at the end of the cue when we cut to Ray and Winston's night drive. Also some unused music written for the scene when the team blasts the room service girl's trolly is left out.
The rest of missing material is source music: the ballroom music in the hotel and like mentioned the restaurant music during Louis's close encounter. I can't remember anything more.

To be honest, besides the shortening of the one particular cue, the Varese CD is already a pretty satisfying presentation of the score IMO. Would those extra minutes really add so much to a new release?

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2012 - 4:12 AM   
 By:   eggerty31   (Member)

I don't know about any extra music warrenting a new release. Id say that this score being OOP and going for so much on ebay is a good enough reason for a new edition. Any extra music would just be a bonus.

I'd settle for a release featuring exactly the same contents as the Varese.

 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2012 - 11:27 AM   
 By:   digitalfreaknyc   (Member)

Am I allowed to ask if there was any material on the other "release" that's not on the Verese?

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2013 - 9:13 PM   
 By:   Freline1982   (Member)


What you're described as "shrieking strings" is a synthesizer sound that was, like you mentioned, used for A LOT of suspense moments in the film.


Actually, it was not a synthesizer sound, but rather a dissonant acoustic glissando performed by the orchestral strings.

There were only two synthesizers used in the "Ghostbusters" score, according to the liner notes. The first is the digital Yamaha DX-7, which was not good at producing realistic acoustic string sounds (you can hear demos at www.synthmania.com). It was used only for clangorous bell tones, blistering stingers, and shimmering digital effects (like that of track 2: "Library and Title," which plays over the opening Columbia Pictures logo). The second is the French analog Ondes Martenot, which is basically a Theremin with keys.

There were two very expensive digital synthesizers available in 1983/84 that closely approximated acoustic strings, but not close enough, and were not mentioned as being used for the soundtrack. They are the Synclavier from New England Digital (which sounds rather sparkly and crystal clear; i.e.: digital) and the Synergy by Digital Keyboards, which was used by "Tron" composer Wendy Carlos to approximate an entire acoustic orchestra on her electronic 1984 album "Digital Moonscapes." Even the strings from that synth are too "perfect" to sound completely realistic.

The string chord from "Ghostbusters" sounds nothing like these crystal clear, perfect digital synthesizers. It sounds "alive" and animated, with subtle nuances in all areas. Therefore, it is acoustic. A similar chord appears on track 5 of the CD: "Hello," which plays during the Ghostbusters' visit to the library basement midway through the track, as the Ghostbusters discover the messy card catalog and Ray remarks: "Talk about telekinetic activity; look at this mess!" This string sound is unmistakeably performed by the acoustic strings in the orchestra, not a synthesizer.

There is, however, a dissonant, discordant synth pad (more of a sound effect than a musical chord) that occurs twice during the finale: as Gozer's glowing portal opens its doors, and during the final night shot of the apartment building with the clouds dissipating, following Walter Peck's being dumped on by marshmallow.

 
 Posted:   Jun 12, 2014 - 6:29 PM   
 By:   Steve H   (Member)

Strange.... I just looked up the original commercially released album on the australian itunes store and it is listed as a partial album only. It seems 4 of the songs and the 2 Bernstein tracks have been pulled. Wonder what that's all about?

 
 Posted:   Jun 12, 2014 - 8:29 PM   
 By:   drivingmissdaisy   (Member)

Was the Varese disc complete? I don't know the movie as well as some of you, but it seemed pretty long to me, plus I think we got some extras and different versions of stuff, if I remember correctly.

I hope this comes out again as I'd buy it again smile

 
 Posted:   Jun 12, 2014 - 9:22 PM   
 By:   La La Land Records   (Member)

I would bet good money another release of Ghostbusters and a debut release of Ghostbusters 2 happening this year to coincide with their respective anniversaries

MV

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 12, 2014 - 10:03 PM   
 By:   Traveling Matt   (Member)

Like.

 
 Posted:   Jun 12, 2014 - 10:59 PM   
 By:   Timothy J. Phlaps   (Member)

I would bet good money another release of Ghostbusters and a debut release of Ghostbusters 2 happening this year to coincide with their respective anniversaries

MV


Do Sony actually give that much of a crap about the scores that the idea of releasing them again is actually on their radar?

Or do you know something we don't?

 
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