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 Posted:   Aug 13, 2001 - 1:54 AM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

I have a tendency to crunch a lot of numbers at work and even at home, a task that many folks would consider as exciting as watching grass grow, wet paint dry, etc. etc. Thing of it is, I tend to get pretty intense and all and as such adding a musical accompaniment to the mix ain't exactly a compatible thing.

But thanks to a pair of Messageboard folks I have found the formula. A few years ago Jim Cleveland went all ga-ga over Goldsmith's score for Hoosiers, a film I saw first night of its theatrical run and one that didn't really send me. Think it had something to with the way a coaching colleague in the old hometown was being ridden out on a rail and the last thing I wanted to see was a flick filled with all-too-many recognizable unappointed assistant coaches, which for the sake of anonymity we'll just call parents. Anyway, old Jim just kept pumping up the volume until I finally went out some 10 years later and rented the video. And promptly fell in love with the music and much of the movie.

Must've had real bad blinders and earmuffs on that night in the theatre. But thanks to Mr. Cleveland's persistence I was next spurred to hunt down the soundtrack, and I purchased an audiocassette somewhere nearby. Hoosiers has become my official soundtrack to accompany the drudgery of monthly reports here at the old workplace and damn be but it has a way of turning the crunch into a pretty good day. And Hoosiers is one of my favorite soundtracks to underscore driving; I often play it through back to back, sometimes over several short trips.

Thanks, Jim. And thank you Shaun Rutherford for sending me the Paradise soundtrack. You know I discovered the flick on a quiet Saturday afternoon on the UPN channel and was rather charmed. The scene when the little girl goes to meet her daddy remains a painful and powerful indentation upon the mind's eye. Devastating thing to watch her so full of hope only to be rejected. Anyway, not a great film but a charmer. I just felt that David Newman's score just didn't go as far as it could have even though what was there was pleasant, for sure. But you sent me the soundtrack and that damn CD has become my offical soundtrack to accompany the softer but still intense crunch of doing what I do every so often--at home. It's a BEAUTIFUL soundtrack. I relish the listening experience.

Thank you again, gentlemen. You make a truly fine pair of film music missionaries.

PS
Shaun, you will have to be doggedly persistent to sell me on the Thomas Newman thing. Thanks for the taste of his career but the CD, like his work on films, still doesn't send me. Hope he breaks out one of these days, there sure is a lot of potential in there I'll give you that.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 13, 2001 - 2:06 AM   
 By:   D.E   (Member)

It's nice to see Goldsmith's HOOSIERS getting a mention here; it truly is one of the composers very best acheivements!

Dean.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 13, 2001 - 5:59 AM   
 By:   Jim Cleveland   (Member)

Don't mention it, Howard ol' boy!
For me, it is such a JOY to be able to share my love of music with someone and Hoosiers(As you well know) really touched me, both movie AND score(And I HATE basketball!). Now if I could just find a female to share in that passion! http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/biggrin.gif">
....HESHOOTSHESCORESSSSSSSSSS!!
And it IS a terrific score to drive to!

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 13, 2001 - 6:41 AM   
 By:   Chris Kinsinger   (Member)

FSMissionaries...I like that.
Aside from making some wonderful friends here, sharing favourite music between us has been the greatest thing about this place.
Dana Wilcox, Dennis Logsdon, Jason Comerford and Joan Hue, among others (now I know how the Oscar winners feel...I don't want to forget anybody here, but I know I will!) have all shared their favourites with me, and are themselves FSMissionaries because of their generosity.
I had the distinct honor of introducing our beloved Logied to the sweet, majestic sounds of one Michael J.Lewis. It thrills my heart to know how much he now loves Lewis's music!

"Now if I could just find a female to share in that passion!"

Never give up, Jim.
She's out there!

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 14, 2001 - 1:46 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I'm sorry if I've got my acronmys mixed up, but here is a classic case of "a pot calling the kettle black": Howard, you are yourself an FSMissionary. Without you, I would never have been exposed to the wonderful film experience called TO KILL A MOCKINBIRD. I'm extremely grateful for that.

Also, without getting all mushy here, let me sign the confirmation that the board is indeed filled with friendly "donators": Brutus, cine-sin, soundtrackman, vinylscrubber, Greg Philips etcetera etcetera.
[This message has been edited by Thor (edited 31 August 2001).]

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 14, 2001 - 8:51 AM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Oh thank you, Thor. It's funny but when I hear those soundtracks I also "see" the regulars on this website. Both of the scores project the very pastoral settings of their films. Huh, it really fells weird to further project such an ambience onto this place. Nevertheless, I do.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2001 - 5:33 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Yeah, I know what you're talking about.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2001 - 8:08 AM   
 By:   Dan Hobgood   (Member)

HOOSIERS is sheer dynamite.

As a composition, it is, in my estimation, nothing less than absolutely glorious.

As a musical interpretation of Angelo Pizzo and David Anspaugh's production, it ranks up there as one of the most thoughtful and intelligent narratologically-infused scores ever written...if not THE most.

Cheers to one of my favorite scores, one of my very favorite pictures.

DH
[This message has been edited by Dan Hobgood (edited 15 August 2001).]

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2001 - 7:27 AM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Well, I have brought the headphones to work since I'm now suddenly crunching numbers assembly line-style. Have so far listened to Beyondness of Things, Psycho (McNeely rerecording) and Beneath the 12-Mile Reef...to be followed by Paradise, The Twilight Zone (Herrmann/McNeely) and The Best Years Of Our Lives after lunch. Gonna have to get me a CD of Hoosiers, for sure...for next time.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 1, 2001 - 3:07 AM   
 By:   Logied   (Member)

Hoosiers was my first Goldsmith score I bought specifically to collect Goldsmith.
I did not warm up to the score at first
and felt some other sound should have been
used for that midwestern feel of cold outside
and sweaty locker room inside. As a sync fan
I like the score alot and the uplifting style
of the writing fits the tone of the film
well as Goldsmith always does.
I,m proud to be a FSMissionary, where should
we erect our pulpit to pass the word - Score.
I know, at the next hockey game I go to, I,ll
sit there and when the puck goes into the net
and they yell SCORE, I,ll jump up and yell,
HOOSIERS or someother goodie.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 3, 2001 - 5:00 AM   
 By:   Joe E.   (Member)

I guess I'll just have to see this film sometime. I think I probably avoided it in its original release because I loathe sports, but I do have some capacity to enjoy sports-related movies, oddly enough; no doubt it's something to do with being able to enjoy any well-told dramatic (or comedic) narrative regardless of the subject. Would one require a great deal of knowledge of US collegiate basketball to appreciate the film, or is Hoosiers fairly self-explanatory?

- JE

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“There it stuck fast, and would move no more...”

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 4, 2001 - 6:51 AM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

The game/sport itself is secondary as the dramatic principles would probably fit in with any competitive high school team sport treatment. But there is a lot of Americana in there and it would probably help to have a feel for the period as well. Sort of reminds me why Dead Poets Society took place when it did; although its principles could just as easily fit in a current setting, the bygone era approach enhanced them.

 
 Posted:   Sep 4, 2001 - 8:03 AM   
 By:   soundtrackman   (Member)

Howard;
As another "number cruncher" (I'm an accountant) I often listen to music at work, but with headphones - because NOBODY else is interested in what I'm interested in.
I find discs with shorter cuts work better than longer pieces, or classical music, because I'm always getting interrupted by phone calls, people walking in with questions, etc. Also, music is fine when I doing mostly data entry or simple calculations, but if I have to do something really complex, like working in a multi-tabbed, interlinked spreadsheet, I stop the music. My brain can onlt really focus on one thing at a time.

And I love HOOSIERS, too. Have you heard the "sequel" - "Rudy?"

Mark T.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 4, 2001 - 12:37 AM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

I sure have. Favorite music/scene: the sentry allows him to pass.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 6, 2001 - 8:35 AM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

"Also, music is fine when I doing mostly data entry or simple calculations, but if I have to do something really complex, like working in a multi-tabbed, interlinked spreadsheet, I stop the music. My brain can onlt really focus on one thing at a time."

The first time (per response 31 August) it was a combination of data entry/simple calculations and the music blasting away was somewhat disconcerting but now I have gotten used to it. Today is another all-day of same and I started with The Ghost & Mrs. Muir. Really got into it with the track entitled Nocturne and actually found myself envisioning the vice-principal from Boston Public conducting the Symphony (?!). Next came Edward Scissorhands and damn me the music was moving me way too much!! I rounded out the morning with Oklahoma! and after lunch plan to shift to Around the World in 80 Days, finishing the day with Adventures of Superman.

PS

Yesterday I was in an SUV reminiscing about my baseball coaching days when someone asked if I liked The Natural, which I love. Much of the talk was about high school kids. Someone else then asked if I liked Hoosiers! It was funny to segue to the latter in a conversation mostly about kids & baseball, but per entry somewhere above the sport itself was pretty much immaterial.

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[This message has been edited by Howard L (edited 06 September 2001).]

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 12, 2001 - 5:01 AM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Thank you, Madame Hue, for your fine missionary work in the field of Elmer Bernstein. You must have sensed my momentary loss of sense and the moment your CD of The Ten Commandments arrived I immediately put on the Prelude and was jolted back to sanity. And Stripes, The Great Escape and the incomparable The Magnificent Seven themes on the compilation induced shame beyond words. Please accept my humble and humbled) thanks.

Oh, and Shaun, there may be a small glimmer of hope in your quest to convert this poor fellow to the illusive Mr. Newman. We painstakingly listened to your entire homemade meet Thomas Newman creation and between the squirms and winces a small part of me actually got into the tracks entitled The Graduate, Pt. 2, The Player and Unfavorable Light. The first two are obviously related to one another; will have to peruse your liner notes. Anyway, if I had to describe the style of the music it would probably match the tone of several actual corresponding flicks: quirky. Listening to his music makes feel like I'm in some sort of funky void or cave. And I am a sucker for off-kilter spanks of marimba which have become one of his composing trademarks. Nevertheless, I'm not really big on quirkiness in my films nor music nor film music and my obstinacy, as such, remains obstinate. My thanks nonetheless.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 12, 2001 - 6:10 AM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

Hi Howard. You're most welcome. Glad you found his music worthwhile and enjoyed it.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2001 - 9:19 AM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Hey soundtrackman, if you're still around please take my advice: Make sure you're alone in case you play Tony Bennett's Boulevard of Broken Dreams. I just finished tangoing around the keyboard while bumping and grinding in my chair only to discover Dilbert in the cubicle next door watching my every move. At least Dilbert can't read my mind; it was just me & Miss Moon dancing the night away, she in her lovely red dress and I in my tux imagining that I have it all!

--And never, never put on Sing Sing Sing. I hammered Gene Krupa's solo all the way and now I want to do it again...and again...and again...YEAH, BABY, YEAH!

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[This message has been edited by Howard L (edited 11 October 2001).]

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2001 - 9:43 AM   
 By:   Joe E.   (Member)

Hey, Howard: is that the 1937 Benny Goodman recording? Ooooh, I love that one too... http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/biggrin.gif">

- JE

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2001 - 10:55 AM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

You better believe it's the Carnegie Hall one. Vintage stuff, huh!

 
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