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 Posted:   Aug 14, 2001 - 2:25 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I must honestly admit that I was a bit disappointed with this Cinerama effort. The "cheese"/camp factor was definitely higher here than in the aforementioned festival films.

The biggest problems were the desperate and implausable plot turns (example: the balloon "accidentally" drops into the volcano - of all places - only to be boosted out again by the gas pressure?) and "gimmicky" camera pans and tilts that were seemingly put in there just to nauseate and/or impress the audience.

But the effects were less than stunning. The sea scenes were rather disappointing after having seen MUTINY ON THE BOUNTY, and the Bavaria Queen (the ship), villages and volcano literally reeked of small-scale modeling and backyard swimmingpool. The black line of the "matte painting" stood out like a thick brush stroke, and the lava looked like jello. It was hard to identify with the characters and situations when they were buried in these less-than-stellar effects (not to mention the sound volume, which was mixed WAY to loud - I had to cover my ears repeatedly). And for a film that relies so much on effects, this is a sorry case.

Not that I wasn't amused on occasion. I was. The tsunami towering over the village was actually a good shot. And the performances were decent, though not spectacular.

Funny observation: In real life, Krakatoa is actually located WEST of Java.

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(Frank?) De Vol's score varied in quality. From unneccesary "sturm und drang" bombasticism and redundant underlining of onscreen action to appropriate character scoring.

An interesting example of the latter is the scene where Laura tells the captain of her divorce and losing her son Peter. De Vol simply follows the emotions of Laura as she tells her story - from regret to despair to contemplation, heavy on the strings.

I seriously doubt this score was ever released. Was it?


 
 
 Posted:   Aug 14, 2001 - 2:34 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Oh, and I almost forgot:

The cheese factor wasn't radically improved by having a couple of cheesy hoola-hoola songs tossed into the lot (with lyrics by Mack David) and a silly musical number by Barbara Werle ("I'm just an ordinary gal" or something like that).

 
 Posted:   Aug 14, 2001 - 5:21 AM   
 By:   mgh   (Member)

Yes, the score was released but only on LP.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 14, 2001 - 10:51 AM   
 By:   Originalthinkr@aol.com   (Member)

Not only is the ill-fated island west of Java, but it's name is really spelled, and pronounced KRAKATAO (Krah-ka-TAHW)! Go figure.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 13, 2001 - 11:59 PM   
 By:   Chris Kinsinger   (Member)

I saw this one in a Cinerama theatre back in 1969. What a hoot! Maximilian Schell looks embarrassed from beginning to end.
The miniatures are all rather elaborate and well-detailed, but the scale is way, waaay too small for working with real water. I don't believe that the people who crafted those miniatures understood how water always betrays scale to even the least-trained eye.
Barbara Werle's song, "I'm looking for an old fashioned boy who's looking for an old fashioned girl" had people throwing popcorn at the screen.
The effects were nominated for an Academy Award in 1969. Marooned won the award that year (deservedly).

 
 Posted:   Aug 14, 2001 - 6:03 AM   
 By:   Eric Paddon   (Member)

Hearing that lame song with full orchestra out of nowhere the first time I saw this film really threw me for a loop. Had I stumbled into some silly disaster musical I'd never heard of before?

Still, it was nice to find a widescreen DVD at K-Mart for $7. Bad as it is, it's essential to any disaster movie collection.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 14, 2001 - 6:13 AM   
 By:   Chris Kinsinger   (Member)

The other really annoying detail about this flick is the repetitious use of certain clips. Like that rock that is hurled right at our faces about 6 times...

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 14, 2001 - 8:00 AM   
 By:   Originalthinkr@aol.com   (Member)

MAROONED deserved the oscar for Best Special Effects??? Were the Academy voters all in the men's room during the scene depicting James Franciscus's EVA, when he rotates himself in space AND THE LIGHT FROM THE SUN ROTATES WITH HIM?!?

The morning after "2001" opened, Marooned's "special" effects team should've been embarrassed to show up for work. (It's a pretty bad movie in most other respects, too, though it does have a first-rate cast).
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 Posted:   Aug 15, 2001 - 5:45 AM   
 By:   Eric Paddon   (Member)

The only nominees though were Marooned and Krakatoa for Visual Effects. Marooned was certainly more deserving in light of that competition.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2001 - 6:52 AM   
 By:   Chris Kinsinger   (Member)

Exactly right, Eric.

I recall leaving the theatre after watching 2001: A Space Odyssey, and a good friend said to me, "This film has set a new standard. Science-Fiction films will never be the same!"

Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer's next sci-fi release was:

The Green Slime. Six years later they graduated to Logan's Run.

"The morning after "2001" opened" didn't matter much within the film industry.

Marooned contains a number of great effects, and several mediocre ones. If we want to kick up a fuss about special effects Oscars that are undeserved, let's begin with the 1976 King Kong, OK?

 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2001 - 8:19 AM   
 By:   Dana Wilcox   (Member)

My favorite scene in KRAKATOA EAST OF JAVA is when a love scene in one of the cabins cuts suddenly to the pistons pumping in the engine room. Now there's some high class imagery for ya... http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/biggrin.gif">

"B" movie all the way.

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 Posted:   Aug 16, 2001 - 7:49 AM   
 By:   Chris Kinsinger   (Member)

"B" movie all the way."

You're being waaaaay too kind, Dana!

 
 Posted:   Aug 16, 2001 - 9:45 AM   
 By:   Eric Paddon   (Member)

As a footnote to the Visual Effects award for that year, I believe that was the time Raquel Welch came out to present the award and deliberately introduced herself by saying, "I'm here for Visual Effects and I have two of them....I mean nominations."

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 16, 2001 - 2:48 AM   
 By:   joec   (Member)

I saw KRAKATOA at 13 in during its original Cinerama release. I loved it then, all those hurling rocks, explosions and "you are in the picture" effects were great fun for a 13 year old. The ABC soundtrack album was among my first. The movie is a campy, gulty pleasure which does not hold up well on TV size screens. However, I was disappointed the new DVD does not inlude the Overture, intermission and exit music.

 
 Posted:   Sep 1, 2001 - 3:39 AM   
 By:   Valere   (Member)

I wish that they could at least included the music on the DVD releases. They do not do this,and we HAVE to lobby the studios to do this.You have to remember,that younger peopleare setting up these DVD releases, and have now knowledge of what went on in 1966.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 28, 2017 - 12:43 AM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

This is from Bill Hunt's April 25, 2017 posting on The Digital Bits:

"Kino Lorber Studio Classics has revealed that they’re working on new Blu-ray and DVD releases of Bernard L. Kowalski’s Krakatoa: East of Java (1968) and James Cruz’s Old Ironsides (1926). Both are coming soon."

I suppose it would be too much to hope for stereo sound.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2017 - 1:33 AM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

This is from Bill Hunt's April 25, 2017 posting on The Digital Bits:

"Kino Lorber Studio Classics has revealed that they’re working on new Blu-ray and DVD releases of Bernard L. Kowalski’s Krakatoa: East of Java (1968) and James Cruz’s Old Ironsides (1926). Both are coming soon."

I suppose it would be too much to hope for stereo sound.



Latest word from Kino Lorber is that KRAKATOA: EAST OF JAVA will be on Blu-ray in the ubiquitous "2.0" sound. No word on whether that will be dual-channel mono, front stereo, or matrixed surround.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2017 - 6:01 AM   
 By:   Jim Doherty   (Member)

Unfortunately, the ABC LP highlights the songs and the lyrical portions of the score and leaves out all the really fine dramatic cues.There are a great amount of un-mined cues available in this score.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2017 - 6:12 AM   
 By:   Jim Doherty   (Member)

This is from Bill Hunt's April 25, 2017 posting on The Digital Bits:

"Kino Lorber Studio Classics has revealed that they’re working on new Blu-ray and DVD releases of Bernard L. Kowalski’s Krakatoa: East of Java (1968) and James Cruz’s Old Ironsides (1926). Both are coming soon."

I suppose it would be too much to hope for stereo sound.



Latest word from Kino Lorber is that KRAKATOA: EAST OF JAVA will be on Blu-ray in the ubiquitous "2.0" sound. No word on whether that will be dual-channel mono, front stereo, or matrixed surround.


I know that various-length versions have been released on VHS and DVD. I remember seeing the TV print (renamed VOLCANO), on TV in stereo. I can only hope that KINO releases the full-length version, in stereo.

I remember one scene where Brian Keith is suspended in a net high above the deck of the ship while trying to overcome the effects of an addiction. I recall the music being very much in a Bernard Herrmann vein.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2017 - 11:20 AM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

I know that various-length versions have been released on VHS and DVD. I remember seeing the TV print (renamed VOLCANO), on TV in stereo. I can only hope that KINO releases the full-length version, in stereo.


Of course, the first question is, what IS the "full-length" version?

Leonard Maltin's Video Guide gives the length of KRAKATOA as 101 minutes. That is probably the length of the "Volcano" version. Maltin also says that the film's original length was 136 minutes. The film was copyrighted at 131 minutes, which is the length of the prior DVD releases. The 5-minute difference may possibly be explained by extra music, assuming that the film had an Overture, Entr'Acte, and/or Exit Music in its first run.

The AFI Catalog lists 148 minutes, and the IMDB lists 147 minutes, as a running time for the film, which the IMDB explains was the length of its submission to the British Board of Film Classification before censorship. The AFI also notes that the film was reviewed at at 127, 135, and 143 min.

For its part, Kino Lorber says that the master that they have been provided by Disney for their Blu-ray release runs 131 minutes.

 
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