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 Posted:   Mar 14, 2012 - 8:06 AM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

...so says the early review from a test screening, at aintitcool.com


"....I don't know much about the original series or what the tone might have been, but this version is most definitely a comedy, and a pretty damned funny one....

.....Now this film wasn't quite the gothic horror movie I was expecting, even though Burton brings that kind of creepy atmosphere to it. It's more of a horror comedy, closer in tone to "Beetlejuice" or "The Addams Family," only a little sexier and with implied violence. There are the usual 'fish out of water' moments as Barnabus tries to wrap his head around the modern world of the 1970's. At one point he mistakenly believes his 15-year old niece is a prostitute because of her skimpy outfits and later attacks a television set showing a performance by The Carpenters (most things he can't understand he interprets as Satan) ...."

Attacks a TV set. Nice. Good move there, Burton. Why a comedy? That seems to be a trend when remaking 60's - 70's TV properties, turn them into comedy no matter their original slant. Why? Is it that the young bucks green-lighting things at the studios, who were likely born in the late 70s or 80s, just peg anything in that era as camp?

I liked Dark Shadows, but wasn't a rabid fan. The movies were good and creepy and although a lot of the original series is creaky when you look back on it - at the time it worked as horror melodrama.

Why piss all over the source material? This is one I'll skip

The review is here :

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/54274

 
 Posted:   Mar 14, 2012 - 8:26 AM   
 By:   mstrox   (Member)

I'm not familiar with the source material, so I can't comment on the faithfulness, etc, but Burton's idea of a comedy is a far cry from the comedy of, say, the recent 21 Jump St remake or the 2000s Starsky and Hutch remake. I'm still looking forward to this.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 14, 2012 - 8:30 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I have zero knowledge and connection to the source material too. I just want to have another good Tim Burton film. It's been a while since BIG FISH. Obviously, he will always have his own sort of comedy (dark/burlesque) attached to a project. Wouldn't be a Burton film without it.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 14, 2012 - 8:49 AM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

I just keep having flashbacks to Mars Attacks. One of the worst attempts at comedy ever. big grin

But it can't be that bad...can it ???





 
 
 Posted:   Mar 14, 2012 - 8:55 AM   
 By:   Richard-W   (Member)

Dark Shadows was always underpinned by literary roots.

The movie version should be a Wuthering Heights, instead we're getting a Tim Burton comedy. Crossing The Addams Family with The Rocky Horror Picture Show is not Dark Shadows.

God damnit.

I don't like Burton's flamboyant fetish comedies and I despise Johnny Depp's drag-queen mentality.

Fuck Tim Burton, fuck Johnny Depp and fuck the execs at Warner Brothers who muscled Dan Curtis out so they could make this piece of shit.


Richard

 
 Posted:   Mar 14, 2012 - 9:45 AM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

I have zero knowledge and connection to the source material too. I just want to have another good Tim Burton film. It's been a while since BIG FISH.

Its been even longer since Ed Wood. wink

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 14, 2012 - 10:03 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Dark Shadows was always underpinned by literary roots.

The movie version should be a Wuthering Heights, instead we're getting a Tim Burton comedy. Crossing The Addams Family with The Rocky Horror Picture Show is not Dark Shadows.

God damnit.

I don't like Burton's flamboyant fetish comedies and I despise Johnny Depp's drag-queen mentality.

Fuck Tim Burton, fuck Johnny Depp and fuck the execs at Warner Brothers who muscled Dan Curtis out so they could make this piece of shit.


Richard


He, he....why don't you tell us what you REALLY feel? wink

Burton is one my favourite directors in the world, but I was somewhat disappoined by ALICE IN WONDERLAND and THE CORPSE BRIDE. SWEENEY TODD had some good elements, but wasn't really my cuppa tea. CHARLIE AND THE CHOCOLATE FACTORY was quite good, and BIG FISH was pure excellence! And then there was POTA before that, which was a disaster.

So some ups and downs in the last 10 years, but I have high hopes for this and the upcoming FRANKENWEENIE.

 
 Posted:   Mar 14, 2012 - 11:39 AM   
 By:   Charles Thaxton   (Member)

Dark Shadows was always underpinned by literary roots.

The movie version should be a Wuthering Heights, instead we're getting a Tim Burton comedy. Crossing The Addams Family with The Rocky Horror Picture Show is not Dark Shadows.

God damnit.

I don't like Burton's flamboyant fetish comedies and I despise Johnny Depp's drag-queen mentality.

Fuck Tim Burton, fuck Johnny Depp and fuck the execs at Warner Brothers who muscled Dan Curtis out so they could make this piece of shit.


Richard



Richard and I are in agreement here.

 
 Posted:   Mar 14, 2012 - 12:56 PM   
 By:   CindyLover   (Member)

Fuck Tim Burton, fuck Johnny Depp and fuck the execs at Warner Brothers who muscled Dan Curtis out so they could make this piece of shit.

In fairness to Warner Bros., Dan Curtis is in no position to be "muscled out" since he papssed away in 2006. But yeah, the Burton behind Edward Scissorhands would probably not have decided to go the comic route with this.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 14, 2012 - 1:29 PM   
 By:   Richard-W   (Member)

You don't know what you're talking about, CindyLover.

Dan Curtis started negotiating with MGM to make a definitive Dark Shadows feature film in the mid-1990s. He made a lot of creative concessions to get the first TV reboot made and the second TV reboot. He was unhappy with both. When he entered into discussions with Warner Brothers he found that many things had changed, and he was dealing with people less than half his age who simply did not want to work with him. They wanted his intellectual property, but not him. They strung him along until he passed away. One of his closest friends and associates sided with the studio and played both ends against the middle because that's where the money was. Then Depp and Burton stepped in.


Richard

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 14, 2012 - 1:57 PM   
 By:   Midnight Mike   (Member)

I’m looking forward to this film. I love DS and have been watching it nonstop since 1989 (when the video’s started getting released.) I’ve seen every episode multiple times, and I love it, but this show is nuts. I realize there are a lot of fans out there that really get into the whole Wuthering Heights angle, but I think those moments were few and far between.

When DS was at its height of popularity in 1969, you had a Vampire, Werewolf, Witch, Ghost, Warlock, a “Phoenix” (really just another witch), Disembodied hand, Gypsies , Gypsy Ghosts, Zombies, A second Vampire, Time Travel all at the same time and place, Sometimes all in the same episode. I don’t see how anybody could adapt a show like that and not have it be funny. I mean that shit is ridiculous, but that’s what I love about it.

Sure there are some great purely dramatic moments, like when Baranbas’ father discovers his son’s a vampire, or when Barnabas challenges his Uncle to duel, or hell, the moment when Willie releases Barnabas in 1967 is awesome and played totally straight. But it’s the over the top nuttiness that I think really is the meat of the show. I know other fans don’t agree with me, but I think DS is over the top, to the extreme!

So, I’m looking forward to Burton and Depps affectionate take on a crazy TV show from the late 60’s.

 
 Posted:   Mar 14, 2012 - 2:03 PM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

In fairness to Warner Bros., Dan Curtis is in no position to be "muscled out" since he papssed away in 2006. But yeah, the Burton behind Edward Scissorhands would probably not have decided to go the comic route with this.

I agree with this.

I never watched much of the show but I can tell that making it into a comedy is about on par with what they did with Land Of The Lost.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 14, 2012 - 6:27 PM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

That would really be a shame if it is a comedy, what a waste, make a remake of Love at first bite and leave Dark shadows as it was, serious.

 
 Posted:   Mar 14, 2012 - 6:49 PM   
 By:   Charles Thaxton   (Member)

Burton won't be making a dime off of me from this one.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 14, 2012 - 7:05 PM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

Ditto ditto.

 
 Posted:   Mar 14, 2012 - 7:32 PM   
 By:   Moonie   (Member)

I quite enjoy Burton's movies and I loved Mars Attacks and the score, and I enjoy Depp's work too , before we send this movie to the dumpster , wait until it comes out it just might be good smile

 
 Posted:   Mar 14, 2012 - 7:54 PM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)

I quite enjoy Burton's movies and I loved Mars Attacks and the score, and I enjoy Depp's work too , before we send this movie to the dumpster , wait until it comes out it just might be good smile

Stated like a true gentleman!

 
 Posted:   Mar 14, 2012 - 10:25 PM   
 By:   Sigerson Holmes   (Member)

I always thought "Edward Scissorhands" was pretty funny. Go know.

I also agree with the posters above who are waiting for the film's actual release to begin trashing it.

We don't even really know if that destroying-the-TV-set scene (cleverly symbolic though it may be)
will even be in the final cut, right?

Be fair, fellow fanboys.

 
 Posted:   Mar 14, 2012 - 10:43 PM   
 By:   CindyLover   (Member)

You don't know what you're talking about, CindyLover.

Dan Curtis started negotiating with MGM to make a definitive Dark Shadows feature film in the mid-1990s. He made a lot of creative concessions to get the first TV reboot made and the second TV reboot. He was unhappy with both. When he entered into discussions with Warner Brothers he found that many things had changed, and he was dealing with people less than half his age who simply did not want to work with him. They wanted his intellectual property, but not him. They strung him along until he passed away. One of his closest friends and associates sided with the studio and played both ends against the middle because that's where the money was. Then Depp and Burton stepped in.


Richard


Your unnecessarily rude opening sentence aside, very enlightening. Thanks for the info.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 15, 2012 - 12:27 AM   
 By:   quiller007   (Member)

I don’t see how anybody could adapt a show like that and not have it be funny. I mean that shit is ridiculous, but that’s what I love about it. Sure there are some great purely dramatic moments, and played totally straight. But it’s the over the top nuttiness that I think really is the meat of the show.

Yes, the multiple storyline concepts interesecting with one another
can be viewed as "over the top", but as you said: "it was played
totally straight". DARK SHADOWS was not parody, on any level.
It was an homage, in serial form, to the literary horrors (H.P. Lovecraft;
Bram Stoker; Mary Shelley; Fritz Leiber), and horror films (Hammer)
that preceded it. Tim Burton's concept is that of winking at the audience,
or worse, placing it on the level of Mel Brooks school of comedy.
Mel Brooksian styled comedies/spoofs/parodies are fine, but have
no place in the DARK SHADOWS universe.

I will not be seeing this, ever. It's obviously another in-name-only
movie bastardization of another classic tv series...the same as
all the other movie bastardizations of dozens of other classic
tv shows, all failures. I'm neither a fan of Tim Burton or Johnny Depp,
anyway.

Den

 
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