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 Posted:   Mar 28, 2012 - 5:56 PM   
 By:   Superman1701   (Member)

Ok so here I am getting excited about Prometheus and I was watching Alien on blu ray and I couldnt help but bust out the Intrada set and give it a listen. Trouble is, I am a bit confused as to what tracks play in what order in the film. I've read the liner notes and know that a chunk of it was rescored or what not, but would anyone happen to have a tracklist for how things appear in the film (original and rescored cues) together? This may be explained in some other thread or even in the liner notes themselves so please forgive me if I've missed it.

I appreciate any and all help from everyone!

Thank yall! smile

 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2012 - 6:05 PM   
 By:   Mr Greg   (Member)

Funny you should mention this....after I finished sorting out Shore's "Fly" score I set to work trying to sort out Goldsmith's Alien, to try and make some sense of it all for myself. Of course, there are those out there who know the film and how the music fits far better than I ever will, but wanted to give it a go anyway. Have lost some objectivity with it since being on leave from work etc, but perhaps high time I got back into it. Reminder to self - need to get hold of the old DVD with the original isolated score too...might help somewhat!

Of course - if someone wants to post something they have already in this vein, I would be grateful to see it!

 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2012 - 7:09 PM   
 By:   Superman1701   (Member)

Funny you should mention this....after I finished sorting out Shore's "Fly" score I set to work trying to sort out Goldsmith's Alien, to try and make some sense of it all for myself. Of course, there are those out there who know the film and how the music fits far better than I ever will, but wanted to give it a go anyway. Have lost some objectivity with it since being on leave from work etc, but perhaps high time I got back into it. Reminder to self - need to get hold of the old DVD with the original isolated score too...might help somewhat!

Of course - if someone wants to post something they have already in this vein, I would be grateful to see it!


You know...the dvd thing is a good idea! The blu ray Anthology set I have has isolated score tracks for all the films I believe...

 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2012 - 7:46 PM   
 By:   Mr Greg   (Member)

I only have the Quadrilogy DVD set at the moment...currently without a Blu-Ray player after my last one bit the dust and can't justify spending the money on a new one...

The Quadrilogy set does not include the isolated score as with the original DVD...strange for them, to leave out an extra for such a definitive set (no doubt they needed the space on the disc for the Special Edition stuff). Can't figure out though what the "Defitive Edition" is...is it just the first 2 discs of the Quadrilogy? Or does it have the original isolated score? I don't know...much to plough through with this movie!

 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2012 - 8:25 PM   
 By:   Superman1701   (Member)

I only have the Quadrilogy DVD set at the moment...currently without a Blu-Ray player after my last one bit the dust and can't justify spending the money on a new one...

The Quadrilogy set does not include the isolated score as with the original DVD...strange for them, to leave out an extra for such a definitive set (no doubt they needed the space on the disc for the Special Edition stuff). Can't figure out though what the "Defitive Edition" is...is it just the first 2 discs of the Quadrilogy? Or does it have the original isolated score? I don't know...much to plough through with this movie!


Agreed. I was trying to listen to the score on my iPhone at work and I got confused because there all these alternates and rescored cues and I wish I could figure out how to arrange it in film order. Im so happy we have these CDs! This movie and score has quite a history!

 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2012 - 9:24 PM   
 By:   Sigerson Holmes   (Member)

. . . but would anyone happen to have a tracklist for how things appear in the film (original and rescored cues) together? This may be explained in some other thread or even in the liner notes themselves so please forgive me if I've missed it.


We've had some really interesting "Alien" threads here over the years, and I think you'd get a kick out of reading them all, but here's what I think you're seeking.

In this thread . . .

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=69282&forumID=1&archive=0

Frank V, in an Oct 25, 2010 post, did both a FINAL THEATRICAL ISOLATED SCORE track-by-track analysis, and then did the same for the COMPOSER'S ORIGINAL ISOLATED SCORE, using the same Blu-Ray you've been watching.

 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2012 - 10:28 PM   
 By:   Mr Greg   (Member)

Hmm...that's...interesting...and a big help...damn, I need a Blu Ray player!!!!

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 29, 2012 - 6:31 AM   
 By:   Marcato   (Member)

all the bonus tracks on disc 1 shall replace their original version (also on disc 1)

Then the film version on disc 2 should replace track 1 on disc 1.

there you have it - at least for the starting point of the music as heard in the film

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 29, 2012 - 6:46 AM   
 By:   CinemaScope   (Member)

I only have the Quadrilogy DVD set at the moment...currently without a Blu-Ray player after my last one bit the dust and can't justify spending the money on a new one...

The Quadrilogy set does not include the isolated score as with the original DVD...strange for them, to leave out an extra for such a definitive set (no doubt they needed the space on the disc for the Special Edition stuff). Can't figure out though what the "Defitive Edition" is...is it just the first 2 discs of the Quadrilogy? Or does it have the original isolated score? I don't know...much to plough through with this movie!


Happily the Blu-ray set has isolated scores of all four movies, & it only cost me something like £12, crazy price (but I'm not complaining).

 
 Posted:   Mar 29, 2012 - 3:25 PM   
 By:   Superman1701   (Member)

all the bonus tracks on disc 1 shall replace their original version (also on disc 1)

Then the film version on disc 2 should replace track 1 on disc 1.

there you have it - at least for the starting point of the music as heard in the film


hmmm...I'll have to look at that...

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 1, 2012 - 3:00 PM   
 By:   BJN   (Member)

all the bonus tracks on disc 1 shall replace their original version (also on disc 1)

Then the film version on disc 2 should replace track 1 on disc 1.

there you have it - at least for the starting point of the music as heard in the film


To which the tracked segments (Freud & Hanson Symphony No. 2) should be added. I think in other threads there were complete listings of what you actually hear in the film (as opposed to the iso tracks with different sequences).

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 16, 2012 - 7:07 PM   
 By:   lepedidus   (Member)

I listened to this score today. It has to seriously be considered one of the best scores of the seventies, right? Just perfect through and through. Any new love for this old classic?

 
 Posted:   Sep 17, 2012 - 4:56 AM   
 By:   Josh "Swashbuckler" Gizelt   (Member)

I don't know about new love, but I will say that I've enjoyed this score for years and that the 1999 DVD isolated score track was a dream come true, only surpassed by Intrada's definitive presentation.

The Blu-ray set improves on the DVD isolated score track by having a subtitle track listing the cue and slate numbers for everything. If you need a guide to assembling the score as it appears in the film, that's the best resource.

 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2013 - 10:16 AM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

11-15-13: I was playing some Goldsmith favorites this morning, and went on a search for my original soundtrack, but couldn't find it. Then I came to this site and discovered that in the "Alien Anthology" Blu-ray set there are isolated scores on all 4 films, a feature I had overlooked. My problem is that while I adore both Jerry Goldsmith and "Alien" (the movie), most of the music in that film isn't the sort that I would normally choose to listen to apart from watching the film itself. That said, I was curious about the Intrada "Alien" set and, compulsive that I am, started thinking about buying it, although not sure I want to spend about $40 (including tax and shipping) for it.

Had to chuckle about Superman1701 wanting to listen to the music in the precise order in which it is heard in the film. That's never been a priority of mine (although you certainly don't want it to be entirely shuffled!), and in compilations and playlists I've made over the years, have never thought twice about rearranging some of the cues for my own personal dramatic effect. But regular readers here have found that there are a lot who prefer listening to soundtrack cues in the precise order in which they fall in their films. I'm just not that fastidious myself, at least in that matter.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2013 - 10:30 AM   
 By:   Michael24   (Member)

although not sure I want to spend about $40 (including tax and shipping) for it.

My total was about $36. More than I normally like to spend for soundtracks, but it was well worth it. I find the music very listenable on its own, and Intrada's package of the score is terrific.

Had to chuckle about Superman1701 wanting to listen to the music in the precise order in which it is heard in the film.

Some just prefer it that way, myself included. For me, listening to the soundtrack is a way to sort of relive the film, on a purely sonic level, so I want the film order followed as closely as possible. Soundtracks that shuffle everything around out of order drive me crazy, especially when they are cut up and mixed into suites, where I can't simply just program the tracks to play in the correct order.

 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2013 - 11:12 AM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

Michael24: Re: "For me, listening to the soundtrack is a way to sort of relive the film, on a purely sonic level, so I want the film order followed as closely as possible. Soundtracks that shuffle everything around out of order drive me crazy, especially when they are cut up and mixed into suites, where I can't simply just program the tracks to play in the correct order.'

Oh, I totally understand why some like to do that, and certainly wouldn't criticize them for such fastidiousness! It's just not one of my own priorities, although, as I did mention, I wouldn't want them to completely shuffle the cues! But I did want to make note of your "…especially when they are cut up and mixed into suites." I happen to dislike soundtracks that have a slew of 1 and 2 minute cues, which can drive me up the wall, and love some of those suites that go on for 15 to 20 minutes. Just one example. In his soundtrack for "Night of the Generals," Maurice Jarre's last cue is a nearly 13 minute medley of many of the themes. There are still all the individual cues, but the nice big fat medley as a bonus at the end. Would love to hear THAT soundtrack re-done with better sound!

 
 Posted:   Dec 27, 2014 - 3:45 AM   
 By:   DeputyRiley   (Member)

Have been listening to this for the past day or so. What a rich work of art. I'm a huge Goldsmith fan and must admit that Alien was never near the top of my favorites, but the more I listen to it the more I appreciate how fascinatingly complex this score is. There is just so much going on, and each time I listen to it I discover something new.

The first things to grab me way back when were the main title tunes, the echoplex and synth effects, and the marvelous "The Skeleton". Deeper digging into the score reveals so many layers, and even little seconds-long moments in some tracks are little clusters of neat ideas. Much appreciation to the fine mastering and mixing of the score, to help reveal all of the subtleties. A cue like "The Droid" never really commanded much attention before (don't ask me why) but this most recent listen had me wondering how I missed its brilliance before.

 
 Posted:   Dec 27, 2014 - 6:06 AM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

Alien must have been scored close to ST:TMP. Yet - the scores are so very different to one another. Then again, there is a similarity by way of the highlighting of a non-standard piece of kit. Blaster beam in TMP and the conch (and other exotica) in Alien.


Steve Turre playing conch in 1976

How did JG come up with his ideas for singularly appropriate instrumentation applied to whatever project he was working on?

Conch reference to Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conch_(instrument)

Edit: it appears that a ram's horn, conch, didgeridoo and serpent were used during the scoring of Alien. I know the ram's horn was used for POTA and the serpent in Tora, Tora, Tora, however, I'm at a total loss about any previous score history involving the conch and didgeridoo. Even so, that's quite a lot of specialization for one movie. The great thing about JG was none of those playables were ever used excessively for the picture - just enough to elicit the required effect. The echoplex was also probably used to maximum effect in Alien - it's a debatable point.

 
 Posted:   Dec 27, 2014 - 5:56 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

Ok so here I am getting excited about Prometheus and I was watching Alien on blu ray and I couldnt help but bust out the Intrada set and give it a listen. Trouble is, I am a bit confused as to what tracks play in what order in the film. I've read the liner notes and know that a chunk of it was rescored or what not, but would anyone happen to have a tracklist for how things appear in the film (original and rescored cues) together? This may be explained in some other thread or even in the liner notes themselves so please forgive me if I've missed it.

I appreciate any and all help from everyone!

Thank yall! smile


K, I'm gonna give this my best shot. This excludes the material from FREUD.


1 - Main Title (film version)
2 - Hypersleep (rescored alternate)
3 - The Landing
4 - The Terrain
5 - The Craft
6 - The Passage
7 - The Skeleton (rescored alternate)
8 - Hanging On (rescored alternate)
9 - The Lab
10- Nothing to Say
11- Cat Nip
12- It's a Droid
13- Parker's Death
14- Sleepy Alien
15- To Sleep
16- The Cupboard (rescored alternate)
17- Out the Door (rescored alternate)

 
 Posted:   Dec 27, 2014 - 6:11 PM   
 By:   Loren   (Member)

According to the full orchestral score (the same you might refer to when reading Intrada liner notes):

Main Title (New) R1-P2
Hyper Sleep R1-P3
The Landing R2-P1
The Terraine (New) R3-P1 New
The Craft R3-P2
The Passage R4-P1
A New Face R4-P3
Hanging On R5-P1 New
The Lab R6-P1
Nothing to Say (Revised) R7-P1
CatNip (New) R7-P2 New
Here Kitty R8-P1
The Shaft R9-PT1
It's A Droid R10-P1
Parker's Death R11-P1
The Eggs R11-P2
Sleepy Alien R12-P1
To Sleep R12-P2
In The Cupboard R13-P1
(Out of) The Door R13-P2 New
End Title R13-P3

 
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