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Are there any super-fans of this score, or Elmer B, who know how to re-create the Utah Symphony re-recording CD order from the Intrada release.
I know it wouldn't be exact cos of the tweeks Elmer made for the re-do version, but a close approximation would suffice (I know track 14 - Second Chase - begins things).
Cheers 
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Are there any super-fans of this score, or Elmer B, who know how to re-create the Utah Symphony re-recording CD order from the Intrada release.
I know it wouldn't be exact cos of the tweeks Elmer made for the re-do version, but a close approximation would suffice (I know track 14 - Second Chase - begins things).
Cheers
Not taking into account the tweeks Bernstein made at the Utah sessions as you put it, a reordering of the film tracks into something resembling the Utah recording would follow thus:
Track 14 (Second Chase)
Track 2 (Dalben and the Warrior)
Track 20 (Morva)
Track 5 (Gurgi)
Track 8 (The Horned King)
Track 11 (Eilonwy)
Track 17 (Whirlpool)
Track 18 (Fairfolk)
Track 3 (A Special Pig and a Vision)
Track 4 (Journey)
Track 24 (Confidence)
Track 25 (Cauldron Born)
Track 32 (End Titles)
I may do another post of this that does take the tweeks into account.
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Thanks Tack
Even listening to the tracks on the Intrada CD that I know from the Varese issue can be a bit jarring...just the differences in tempo, pitch, orchestration...even the mix!
There's certainly a dynamic punch to the Varese CD somewhat missing from the Intrada.
All those years getting used to the Utah Symphony performance takes some undoing!!
I do like some of the new unreleased tracks on the Intrada release, but I don't see me ever getting over the re-recording as a favourite.
Having said that, Gurgi Lives is very lovely and welcome!
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I would contact Intrada. They have impeccable customer service from my experience.
Yavar
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Spinning this now, what does the track "Morva" remind me of. Is that some kind of traditional music, or was it tracked from something else? Kinda reminds me of something from Kiki's Delivery Service.
While we're at it, he borrowed from Rite of Spring too in Cauldron Born.
Been giving this a spin myself. Can’t answer as to any similarities between the Morva cue and Kiki as I am not familiar with that score, though I will say that this is far from the only score that borrows from Rite of Spring (Goldsmith noticeably does so during the Moving Day cue of Secret of NIMH).
On a somewhat related note, a few months ago, a bunch of storyboards from the film turned up online which give a little more insight as to what got cut. What was most intriguing from those storyboards was that the scene “Incantation” was supposed to underscore was actually in the film this whole time, but at an earlier point than intended (the new score can be heard during “Journey.”). Someone actually made a few videos using the boards to demonstrate how the scenes would have played out as well as highlighting bits of score that ultimately got dialed out (though he unfortunately seems to look at the unmentionable as a legitimate source).
Here are the relevant videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxFt6jeanQY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BQdhvDnnFs
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Oct 11, 2018 - 7:26 AM
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Spinning this now, what does the track "Morva" remind me of. Is that some kind of traditional music, or was it tracked from something else? Kinda reminds me of something from Kiki's Delivery Service.
While we're at it, he borrowed from Rite of Spring too in Cauldron Born.
Been giving this a spin myself. Can’t answer as to any similarities between the Morva cue and Kiki as I am not familiar with that score, though I will say that this is far from the only score that borrows from Rite of Spring (Goldsmith noticeably does so during the Moving Day cue of Secret of NIMH).
On a somewhat related note, a few months ago, a bunch of storyboards from the film turned up online which give a little more insight as to what got cut. What was most intriguing from those storyboards was that the scene “Incantation” was supposed to underscore was actually in the film this whole time, but at an earlier point than intended (the new score can be heard during “Journey.”). Someone actually made a few videos using the boards to demonstrate how the scenes would have played out as well as highlighting bits of score that ultimately got dialed out (though he unfortunately seems to look at the unmentionable as a legitimate source).
Here are the relevant videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxFt6jeanQY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BQdhvDnnFs
I've never detected "Rite of Spring" in NIMH, though I swear it appears in half the scores I do listen to! Thanks for the YT links, awesome stuff. There's actually a lot of interesting videos on that users page. I don't know where he got some of that stuff! Like an unedited version of the Hell Hound sequence from "All Dogs". I didn't know there was differences between the American and Canadian versions of "Rock and Rule".
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I checked out the link hollywoodvegas gave for the Avatar cd, and happened to find the Disney Music Emporium is selling the Black Cauldron for only $9.98. It looks like it is the same program from the Intrada release. In fact, minus the Intrada logo, this cd looks identical to the Intrada release. https://www.disneymusicemporium.com/product/XVCD15/the-black-cauldron-cd?cp=81712_82050 Definitely worth getting for those who missed it.
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