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 Posted:   May 3, 2012 - 10:24 PM   
 By:   Reeler   (Member)

Thought I'd throw this one out since he's not really known for them.

 
 Posted:   May 4, 2012 - 5:19 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

I know him for his action cues pretty well, actually!

We should just make a list of the ones that he hasn't re-used elsewhere. Here are some.

A Far Off Place has some great action cues that oddly, he's never referenced since. Check out "The Slaughter" and "The Swamp" (which at least sounds like Horner).

A few of the absolutely essential to life unreleased cues from Sneakers have never been referenced EVER again (the sequence where Carl goes into Playtronics is just great).

"Hot Pursuit" from We're Back is lighthearted, and almost sounds more like Silvestri, but it's worthy of a mention here.

"Manual Burn" from Apollo 13 is intense.

The first forty seconds or so from "The Comet's Sunrise" from Deep Impact (before the incredibly boring rest of the cue).

"The Hit" from Patriot Games, especially in the film, where the shakuhachi blasts are crazy effective.

"Al Bathra" from Courage Under Fire was great, until Titanic quoted it note-for-note and sullied its good name.

"Falkirk" from Braveheart is also very exciting.

If you can look past the Star Trek-isms in it, "The Flying Circus" from The Rocketeer is a tour de force with amazing orchestration that you just don't hear nowadays. Everything he does nowadays sounds like the gluten-free version of his earlier work.

 
 Posted:   May 4, 2012 - 5:28 AM   
 By:   mark ford   (Member)

Any of his action cues in ALIENS. They were so kinetic and hard driven and ultimately copied by a number of other composers (most likely due to temp tracking in other films).

How many times did you hear those rhythmically insistent anvil hammer blows in other films (or the cues themselves used in trailers for so many years)? This sound would become an action music cliché through the prolific use of sound alike passages in other composer's music.

 
 Posted:   May 4, 2012 - 6:21 AM   
 By:   Mike S   (Member)

"The Hit" from Patriot Games, especially in the film, where the shakuhachi blasts are crazy effective.

I always feel like I'm the only person who loves the PATRIOT GAMES score. Some of it meanders, but on the whole I find it to be a great listen, and one of the best examples of Horner marrying his early 90's avant garde synthesized sound with some emotional heft. The main titles are beautifully evocative.

Sticking with the Jack Ryan franchise, mention must be made of "The Ambush" from CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER, probably my favorite long-form Horner cue. A total marvel of musical construction.

 
 Posted:   May 4, 2012 - 6:41 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

"The Hit" from Patriot Games, especially in the film, where the shakuhachi blasts are crazy effective.

I always feel like I'm the only person who loves the PATRIOT GAMES score. Some of it meanders, but on the whole I find it to be a great listen, and one of the best examples of Horner marrying his early 90's avant garde synthesized sound with some emotional heft. The main titles are beautifully evocative.

Sticking with the Jack Ryan franchise, mention must be made of "The Ambush" from CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER, probably my favorite long-form Horner cue. A total marvel of musical construction.


That's a good choice, too. The film version is slightly different, and I'd like to hear that version (that hair-raising piano/xylophone? before another missle is fired at the convoy). Also great is his 1994 update of the 1993 Pelican Brief update of his 1992 Sneakers score, for the helicopter rescue finale (another unreleased cue).

Patriot Games is a great score!

 
 
 Posted:   May 4, 2012 - 7:12 AM   
 By:   Filmmaker   (Member)

This topic begins and ends with "Futile Escape" from ALIENS. Just try to drive below 80 mph with that cue playing in your car...

 
 Posted:   May 4, 2012 - 7:27 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

There are so many. The first one that comes to my mind is "Sharptooth And The Earthquake" from Land Before Time. One of his best action cues ever.

 
 Posted:   May 4, 2012 - 7:33 AM   
 By:   orion_mk3   (Member)

"War" from Avatar. People kvetch about it being cut and paste, but there's a wealth of really original stuff there (especially then the music is all evil cuz the humans are winning). I'd actually submit the 20 minutes of action material around it (War-The Battle Continues-Quaritch Down-Fight to the Death) as Horner's finest.

"Escape from the Tavern" from Willow is also terrific. The movie's main theme is given a really nice swashbuckly edge.

"Attack Airbase" and "Escape Airbase" from Uncommon Valor are often overlooked; they're a great extension of the Trek action sound.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned "The Chase" from Cocoon too. If you overlook the :30 of Spock fixing the warp drive it's a really powerful and lighthearted action cue.

 
 
 Posted:   May 4, 2012 - 7:36 AM   
 By:   Erik Donovan   (Member)

QUEST FOR THE GLAIVE - KRULL

 
 
 Posted:   May 4, 2012 - 9:06 AM   
 By:   Redokt64   (Member)

Ok... here it goes...

The Slayer's Attack from KRULL

Futile Escape from ALIENS

Ambush from CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER

The Battle in the Mutura Nebula from STAR TREK II

Stealing the Enterprise from STAR TREK III

and, of course...

Bavmorda's Spell is Cast from WILLOW...

 
 Posted:   May 4, 2012 - 9:20 AM   
 By:   Erik Woods   (Member)

This topic begins and ends with "Futile Escape" from ALIENS. Just try to drive below 80 mph with that cue playing in your car...

Here is something I never understood. How terrible of a driver do you have to be where the music influences how fast you go?!?! I've seen this sort of post elsewhere on the board and it boggles my mind. I've never had this problem.

Sorry... I derailed the thread. Back on topic. The first cue that came to mind was "The Flying Circus." A brilliant example of a composer hitting all the sync points while capturing the excitement, drama and emotions on screen to a tee!



-Erik-

 
 Posted:   May 4, 2012 - 9:46 AM   
 By:   DeputyRiley   (Member)

I love Patriot Games also!!! Don't fret Mike Skerritt. smile It is in my top 5 favorite Horner scores. "The Hit" is my favorite cue from that score, and a tremendous action piece. As is "The Ambush" from Clear and Present Danger.

Others...

"Rescue and Breakout" (The Missing)
"Bus Station" (Red Heat)
"Hard to Starboard" & "A Building Panic" (Titanic)
"Operation Reciprocity" & "Second Hand Copter" (Clear and Present Danger)
"Run to the Shed / Chase" & "Sully Starts To Run" (Commando)
"Samuel's Death" (Legends of the Fall)
"Ride" (Mask of Zorro)
"Hollywood Boulevard" (Mighty Joe Young)
"Coast Guard Rescue" (Perfect Storm)
"The Quarry" (Ransom)
"Run For the Stronghold" (Thunderheart)
"Escape From the Tavern" (Willow)
"War" (Avatar)
"Master Alarm" (Apollo 13)
"Birdcage Battle" (Another 48 Hrs.)

 
 Posted:   May 4, 2012 - 10:29 AM   
 By:   orion_mk3   (Member)

Here is something I never understood. How terrible of a driver do you have to be where the music influences how fast you go?!?! I've seen this sort of post elsewhere on the board and it boggles my mind. I've never had this problem.

It's not that inconceivable, is it? Action music makes people feel excited; excited people tend to drive faster and more recklessly. The music elicits an emotional reaction and the emotions affect performance in a complicated task.

I'm totally one of those people. Listening to the all-action CDr I made from "Aliens" is a good recipe for a speeding ticket, especially during "Bishop's Countdown."

 
 Posted:   May 4, 2012 - 10:50 AM   
 By:   Mike S   (Member)

How could I forget to mention "The Battle of Stirling" from BRAVEHEART?

In terms of dramatism, hands down one of the single best cues Horner has ever written. The way he interpolates the Wallace theme, the Scotland theme and the relentless onslaught of percussion for the English forces is just amazing. There's that moment in the sequence where both sides are charging and Horner works against the bombast of the moment and instead hushes the soundscape to develop a disquieting musical conversation between the two sides that ratchets up in intensity as they approach closer and closer until finally they clash and the whole thing explodes. Just thinking about it makes me want to throw a chair.

 
 Posted:   May 4, 2012 - 11:12 AM   
 By:   Erik Woods   (Member)

It's not that inconceivable, is it? Action music makes people feel excited; excited people tend to drive faster and more recklessly. The music elicits an emotional reaction and the emotions affect performance in a complicated task.

I'm totally one of those people. Listening to the all-action CDr I made from "Aliens" is a good recipe for a speeding ticket, especially during "Bishop's Countdown."


Then you shouldn't be on the road! I've listened to hours of action music in the car and it never leads me to pressing harder on the gas pedal. You are responsible for piloting a 2 ton machine where any type of reckless behavior could cost someone's life. Sorry to say but that's incredibly irresponsible!

-Erik-

 
 Posted:   May 4, 2012 - 11:18 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

It's not that inconceivable, is it? Action music makes people feel excited; excited people tend to drive faster and more recklessly. The music elicits an emotional reaction and the emotions affect performance in a complicated task.

I'm totally one of those people. Listening to the all-action CDr I made from "Aliens" is a good recipe for a speeding ticket, especially during "Bishop's Countdown."


Then you shouldn't be on the road! I've listened to hours of action music in the car and it never leads me to pressing harder on the gas pedal. You are responsible for piloting a 2 ton machine where any type of reckless behavior could cost someone's life. Sorry to say but that's incredibly irresponsible!

-Erik-


Yeah, man. Let's have a serious discussion about driver's education right now!

 
 Posted:   May 4, 2012 - 11:26 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Add any of the action cues from Mighty Joe Young. Don't forget to wear your seat belt. wink

 
 
 Posted:   May 4, 2012 - 11:44 AM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

A Far Off Place has some great action cues that oddly, he's never referenced since. Check out "The Slaughter" and "The Swamp" (which at least sounds like Horner).

"Hot Pursuit" from We're Back is lighthearted, and almost sounds more like Silvestri, but it's worthy of a mention here.
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Word on the street is that the orchestrators on those scores (Thomas Pasatieri and Don Davis if I recall right) had a VERY heavy hand in those cues, due to Horner's schedule conflicts.
I remember this info being passed down from high when I 'hung' with the MFTM mob smile

 
 Posted:   May 4, 2012 - 1:22 PM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

A Far Off Place has some great action cues that oddly, he's never referenced since. Check out "The Slaughter" and "The Swamp" (which at least sounds like Horner).

"Hot Pursuit" from We're Back is lighthearted, and almost sounds more like Silvestri, but it's worthy of a mention here.
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Word on the street is that the orchestrators on those scores (Thomas Pasatieri and Don Davis if I recall right) had a VERY heavy hand in those cues, due to Horner's schedule conflicts.
I remember this info being passed down from high when I 'hung' with the MFTM mob smile


I didn't want to say it. smile

 
 Posted:   May 4, 2012 - 2:14 PM   
 By:   orion_mk3   (Member)

Then you shouldn't be on the road! I've listened to hours of action music in the car and it never leads me to pressing harder on the gas pedal. You are responsible for piloting a 2 ton machine where any type of reckless behavior could cost someone's life. Sorry to say but that's incredibly irresponsible!

Sounds to me like someone needs to get more in touch with their emotions! If you listen to hours of action music without it affecting you in any way I suspect that you are a robot in disguise.

 
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