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 Posted:   Jul 10, 2012 - 11:50 AM   
 By:   henry   (Member)

I just ordered this!

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 10, 2012 - 11:37 PM   
 By:   RM Eastman   (Member)

I just wanted to say that Robert Townson discussed the Chinatown release during the 'film music fan community' discussion in Krakow and he basically confirmed that he wanted to keep the album version intact, seeing as how it's a strong presentation and he didn't see it necessary to make a chronological presentation with the missing 30 odd seconds of music. So it wasn't a rights issue.


They could have made a single suite/cue of the missing music and placed it between side one and two of the LP for the CD release.



And I think the source cues ruin the album, either place them at end or eliminate them. Here we have Goldsmith's great score with horrible source cues inserted between Goldsmith cues.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 11, 2012 - 12:02 AM   
 By:   .   (Member)

Seems to me they're simply making their old albums available on iTunes and instead of ignoring CD buyers, they've run off a quantity for those who would protest if they were made available as mp3 only. Those saying they aren't satisfied with the straight album CD re-releases would probably be screaming they wanted them desperately, if they had only been released on iTunes.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 19, 2013 - 7:10 AM   
 By:   FunnyML   (Member)

A few years back a music critic for The Wall Street Journal called Goldsmith's CHINATOWN score one of the greatest musical compositions of the last half of the 20th century. This score is repeatedly included on those list of best film scores put together by mainstream critics and writers who cover film and who are not part of this community.

And it's a subject in film scoring classes. One more reason why a complete release would have been appropriate. Now it's decomposing in the vaults and in a few years the music will be gone.

This is not a situation where fifteen minutes, twenty minutes, forty-five minutes have gone unreleased. This is the case where only a handful of very short cues (only one of which does anybody cite as missed) do not appear.

Why is everyone so sure about only minor cues missing? Because Townson claims it? We know from the rejected score that more scenes were considered featuring music that later had none in it. They slated 8M2 (the Orchard Chase) for score, so would it be an odd thought Goldsmith actually wrote music for it that didn't end up in the final picture? Just to name one scene...

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 19, 2013 - 8:31 PM   
 By:   Preston Neal Jones   (Member)

I'm guessing that writer in the Wall Street Journal was Terry Teachout. He writes on all manner of cultural issues in the WSJ and on his blog -- not just music, but literature, theater, film, etc. (Recently, he's written a well-reviewed biography of Louis Armstrong.) He's often written without the expected snobbery about film music and its composers. He included Rozsa's violin concerto on his list of the 100 most important classical compositions of the 20th Century, and he wrote eloquently on the passings of Goldsmith, Bernstein and Raksin.

 
 Posted:   Feb 19, 2013 - 9:27 PM   
 By:   George Komar   (Member)

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204261704574274152752739772.html

 
 Posted:   Feb 19, 2013 - 10:07 PM   
 By:   IWalkAmongYou   (Member)

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204261704574274152752739772.html

I absolutely love that you found this.

I'm passing it on to a few friends who remain oblivious to the idea of great film music.

Thank you!

 
 Posted:   Feb 20, 2013 - 12:14 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

Why is everyone so sure about only minor cues missing? Because Townson claims it? We know from the rejected score that more scenes were considered featuring music that later had none in it. They slated 8M2 (the Orchard Chase) for score, so would it be an odd thought Goldsmith actually wrote music for it that didn't end up in the final picture? Just to name one scene...

Anything's possible, of course. I have no inside information. But the complete rejected score runs only twenty minutes. It's hard to imagine that Goldsmith, in his allotted ten days, scored significantly more than that. It's not an odd thought that Goldsmith would have scored the orchard chase, but it really means absolutely nothing that Lambro scored that sequence. Polanski may well have felt, seeing the scene with music, that it worked better without and never asked Goldsmith to score it. Or it may have been Goldsmith's choice not to.

 
 Posted:   Feb 20, 2013 - 4:29 PM   
 By:   Loren   (Member)

the complete rejected score runs only twenty minutes...

... but it's so beautiful, and almost better than Goldsmith's

 
 Posted:   Feb 20, 2013 - 7:23 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

I cannot vouch personally the the information provided below represents the "complete" score, so I'll just say "expanded".

Including unreleased score, album alternates, source music (not by Jerry), the expanded score is 52:33. The Varese re-issue is 31:17. Not just a few tiny cues.

Unlreased film score (counting film versions, too):
12 cues, approximately 16 minutes of score.

Three album verisions.

Source cues:
Five pieces.

Just the film score and album alternates:
Approximately 37 minutes. That's about seven more minutes of score.

 
 Posted:   Sep 21, 2015 - 12:45 PM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

I can't find this on Varese's site any more - did it go out of print?

 
 Posted:   Sep 21, 2015 - 12:50 PM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

It was down to 50 copies recently, according to Google.

 
 Posted:   Sep 21, 2015 - 1:01 PM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

Ah, good. Maybe another label can release a complete version now.

 
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