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 Posted:   Jun 2, 2012 - 7:08 PM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

I thought very slight but so important when there, 12 angry men-57- by Hopkins was perfect.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2012 - 7:13 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Interesting responses, thanks.

I guess this leads into a larger conversation about our various gateways into film music.

While I loved the music from Dark Shadows and Lost in Space as a kid, I got got into film music heavily as a vinyl junkie, especially during that wonderful late 80s/early 90s period when you could get all this amazing stuff for 50 cents an album.

Anyway, my love of 60s and early 70s film music was largely disconnected from the films. I found cool albums and then wanted to find more records by that artist. Kenyon Hopkins falls into that category. I think Mr. Buddwing was one of my first, along with Lonelyville and Shock. Kenyon Hopkins, to me, was just this mysterious guy who did all these interesting albums with great arrangements.

I can't tell you how many film albums I heard first and only saw the films later. I must have at least 50 or 100 soundtracks for films that I've never seen. As far as Hopkins, I've seen only The Hustler, 12 Angry Men and The Fugitive Kind, as far as I know.

My point is that I don't have to have any connection to film or knowledge of the composer to buy something. I never saw Lady in a Cage and can't even remember who wrote it, but I ordered it before the first sample stopped playing. It was that good. Maybe I'm in the minority, but I would think that there must be others who, if they could hear samples from Mr. Buddwing or the Hustler, would do likewise.

 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2012 - 9:52 AM   
 By:   Josh "Swashbuckler" Gizelt   (Member)

I'm too young to have been around for many of the films Kenyon Hopkins worked on. The only two Hopkins-scored films I've seen are The Huster and 12 Angry Men. There isn't much music in the latter, but in the former there is, and I really liked it. I like the LP, and would love to have a copy of that on CD, though I think that Bruce Kimmel has said that an EU edition of it might make any other financially unviable.

I ordered Baby Doll because I enjoyed The Fugitive Kind from the MGM Treasury. I'd like to get more of his music because I like his voice, but I'm finding that even his LPs are rather hard to find.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 18, 2012 - 8:30 PM   
 By:   ros.pratch   (Member)

Hopkins two scores for "The Undersea World of J C" are sublime. Both were scored for chamber orchestra and neither of them feature any of his jazz trademarks. These should be a first priority.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 18, 2012 - 10:24 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Hopkins two scores for "The Undersea World of J C" are sublime. Both were scored for chamber orchestra and neither of them feature any of his jazz trademarks. These should be a first priority.

If they don't have any of his jazz trademarks, they would not be a first priority for me.

Still, beggars can't be choosers.

I still vote for "The Hustler." Great score, and legendary film.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 14, 2013 - 1:10 AM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

Kenyon Hopkins' score to the 1957 film THE STRANGE ONE, which was originally released on a Coral Records LP, is available as a download from Amazon.



http://www.amazon.com/The-Strange-One-Soundtrack/dp/B004NC69VA/ref=sr_1_4?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1365922855&sr=1-4&keywords=Kenyon+Hopkins

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 27, 2015 - 4:06 AM   
 By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member)

East Side, West Side seems to have been released on CD earlier this year

http://www.amazon.com/East-Side-West-Kenyon-Hopkins/dp/B00SBMEF1O/ref=pd_cp_15_4?ie=UTF8&refRID=0GFX9FPYFXX0R4QTP06N

 
 Posted:   Dec 27, 2015 - 7:42 AM   
 By:   johnjohnson   (Member)

I have to agree with Tonerow. There have been scant chances to sample Hopkins work over the years. Consider these feature films:

WILD RIVER - not on U.S. video


Bob, WILD RIVER is (was?) available in that huge R1 Kazan box set released by Fox, but since one must buy almost every other Kazan film to get it I agree that people have scant chance to see the film and hear the score. Poor Kenyon Hopkins.


There are a couple of listings for Wild River. If you have a region-free player, it's available on the Eureka label.

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Wild-River-Blu-ray/59335/

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Wild-River-Blu-ray/119457/

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2017 - 9:30 AM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

So, back to my original question:

Why have the labels skipped over Kenyon Hopkins?


Seems as though Intrada may have ceased skipping over Kenyon Hopkins...

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2017 - 11:06 AM   
 By:   Morricone   (Member)

So, back to my original question:

Why have the labels skipped over Kenyon Hopkins?


Seems as though Intrada may have ceased skipping over Kenyon Hopkins...


Well as this dying market concentrates more on what can sell the lowest sellers have been

1) obscure composers

2) jazz composers

3) older composers

Kenyon hits all three. May I bring attention to a couple labels that might be our only hope. Kritzerland that just released MONSTER FROM GREEN HELL by Albert Glasser who qualifies on two of the above categories. THAT is a gutsy move. Support this label even if you may be borderline on a release. Hopkins is just the type of composer Bruce might focus on.

The second is the European Jazz in the Movies label whose DINO (Gerald Fried) and CRIME IN THE STREETS I have just been listening to a lot in honor of Fried's birthday. All they do is release jazzy LP soundtracks from the past so that LP list above is right down their alley.

 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2017 - 11:15 AM   
 By:   Essankay   (Member)

Why have the labels skipped over Kenyon Hopkins?

Seems as though Intrada may have ceased skipping over Kenyon Hopkins...



From the clue it certainly sounds like it... finally!

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2017 - 11:38 AM   
 By:   slint   (Member)

So, back to my original question:

Why have the labels skipped over Kenyon Hopkins?


Seems as though Intrada may have ceased skipping over Kenyon Hopkins...


Well as this dying market concentrates more on what can sell the lowest sellers have been

1) obscure composers

2) jazz composers

3) older composers

Kenyon hits all three. May I bring attention to a couple labels that might be our only hope. Kritzerland that just released MONSTER FROM GREEN HELL by Albert Glasser who qualifies on two of the above categories. THAT is a gutsy move. Support this label even if you may be borderline on a release. Hopkins is just the type of composer Bruce might focus on.

The second is the European Jazz in the Movies label whose DINO (Gerald Fried) and CRIME IN THE STREETS I have just been listening to a lot in honor of Fried's birthday. All they do is release jazzy LP soundtracks from the past so that LP list above is right down their alley.


I understand the point but I'm not sure "dying" is the right word and that the correlation is that clear. For instance I would think that Jazz scores would sell as well as other genres. Piero Umiliani, Quincy Jones, or Henry Mancini from the same period are pretty popular, for instance, and they're not (always) quite orchestral.

On the plus side, Hopkins has a lot of unreleased LPs, which tend to attract requests, while similar soundtracks from the same years with no release at all seem to be less popular.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 28, 2019 - 4:10 PM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

So, back to my original question:

Why have the labels skipped over Kenyon Hopkins?


Seems as though Intrada may have ceased skipping over Kenyon Hopkins...


The question now becomes: Why is OnyaBirri skipping over a new CD of Kenyon Hopkins music?
OnyaBirri appears to dislike snowy/icy subject matters because he called the RCA LP Eleven Against the Ice a "turkey".
Perhaps Downhill Racer is another Kenyon Hopkins (cold) turkey? smile

http://store.intrada.com/s.nl?it=A&id=11918

 
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